Is it possible for the Celtic Church or Irish Celtic church to become the dominant faith on the British Islands?
Maybe that Synod would have another turnout?
Maybe that Synod would have another turnout?
Traditions like the datum of eastern?
Maybe they will adapt and will still be catholic but in a much slower process.
But how would the synod of Whitby (dumb name) be in the favor of the Celtic Church i thought they lost that one because the papal representative told they were protecte by Saint Petrus(?) who guards the gate to heaven.
I shall inform the people of whitby to rename their town at once!
Part of the Synod was down to politics in England at the time, perhaps if Northumberia wasn't dominant the outcome might have been different, or if Oswiu had married a woman who followed the 'celtic' church rather than Roman, the synod migh never have happened.
I shall inform the people of whitby to rename their town at once!
Absolutely political you are correct.
My contention is the political aspect was international not just a question of domestic marital arrangements.
Oh, you're right right on the international political aspect but it was Oswiu's marriage to a daughter of King Edwin and her observance of a different Easter to him that brought matters to a head in England (my history teacher, tounge in cheek perhaps, suggested it was because they both gave up sex for Easter and Oswiu got a bit too frustatrated ).
I'm new here - my first post - so bear with me.
That out of the way, I think that the at-large Englishman - or woman - of the time would have felt much more comfortable with w Celtic Church. In my readings, I suspect that the Celtic influence would have given a more "worldly" view, that is, more in tune with the realities of day-to-day life. And there would have been a LOT less emphasis on guilt & sin that was a part of the Roman tradition. And sex, for example, would have been seen more than just "duty" to the ire of the Roman tradition. If one reads the history of the Celtic Church in IReland and the Isles, there is an emphasis on the celebration of the world and all that is in it. And I sense an underlying attitude sort of like :If God created it, then it's not just good, but it's to be enjoyed!" Mix this with the rituals Patrick and his followers used, there isn't much in the way of "God, deliver me from this terrible sinful world," but a sense of acceptance of one's imperfection, need to repent, but to still enjoy life. An interesting short read is Esther de Waal's Every Earthly Blessing available from (of course!) Amazon.com.
Just my two cents worth.
Bobindelaware
Excellent post, especially for a first one!
I would basically agree with everything you said, with the proviso that it's easy to blow things out of proportion, and overidealize the Celtic church. For instance, the matter of how sex was viewed. True, the Celtic church did have a much less paranoid conception of sex and the sexes than the Roman church (especially the extremes thereof), but they did still celebrate celibacy - all Christendom did.
Note, I'm not suggesting that you fell into that trap - in fact some of your careful wording suggests strongly to me that you understand nuances well.