DBWI: hitler never had a daughter.

[Ynnead]

okay we all know that on April 2, 1945 , Hitler and his 16 year old daughter Eva were in a underground bunker in Hamburg, Germany. Eva staged a coup she had been planning for years and forced Hitler into the town, in full view of allied troops and killed him. we later found out that Eva secretly hated her father more than probably any other person. so what if hitler never had a daughter?

[Grey Wolf]

Well, that's certainly different !

Even more so than my having him have a son called Frederick...

Is Geli her mother ? It might explain her, er, fiery nature


Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[TheMann]

Well, Eva wouldn't have become a her of Germany and eventually the Chancellor then, would she? It's probably a good thing she didn't use her father's name too......

[Ynnead]

Originally Posted by TheMann

Well, Eva wouldn't have become a her of Germany and eventually the Chancellor then, would she? It's probably a good thing she didn't use her father's name too......

well Eva got the Chancellor of west germany position cause she was the biggest anti-nazi they could find and she was a fairly good politician

[Something]

10 Million jews would still be alive today then. Everyone knows Hitler to be heavily Anti-Semetic, but I highly doubt he be crazy enough to try to exterminate all the jews. I could forsee him imposing heavy taxes and restrictions on them, but not killing them like his daughter did.

Oh I was reading a ATL oops

OOC: That was all in the DBWI universe.

[Blackwood]

Quite ironic that his biggest undoing was his own bloodline.

[TheMann]

Originally Posted by thecreeper

well Eva got the Chancellor of west germany position cause she was the biggest anti-nazi they could find and she was a fairly good politician

Good enough is a bit understating for a woman who led Germany for almost two decades, don't you think?

[Ynnead]

Originally Posted by TheMann

Good enough is a bit understating for a woman who led Germany for almost two decades, don't you think?

yeah, my bad. but we are also overlooking the fact that she provided some of the most important testimony in the Nuremberg trials. and she turned Germany into a very open minded country (ooc: think netherlands type thing) and a very powerful one

[Boom22]

but hitler did have a daughter
OOC: Lol j/k

[ColeMercury]

I know that West Germany probably would've joined NATO anyway, but it's possible that with someone other than Eva Raubal as Chancellor they could've declared neutrality. Just throwing it out there.

[Mr_ Bondoc]

In the United States it is often said, "Only Nixon could go to China" (1972). In Europe, it is often said that, "Only Eva could go to Israel" (1977). The picture of Eva Hitler at the Wailing Wall with Prime Minister Golda Meir, along with the reparations served to heal the rift between many European Jews and Western Europe starting in the seventies. Her active condemnation of Palestinian terrorism also served to define the "New Europe"...

[ColeMercury]

Originally Posted by Mr_ Bondoc

In the United States it is often said, "Only Nixon could go to China" (1972). In Europe, it is often said that, "Only Eva could go to Israel" (1977). The picture of Eva Hitler at the Wailing Wall with Prime Minister Golda Meir, along with the reparations served to heal the rift between many European Jews and Western Europe starting in the seventies. Her active condemnation of Palestinian terrorism also served to define the "New Europe"...

You mean Eva Raubal...
(OOC: She didn't use her father's name, remember?)

[Geordie]

Who is this 'Nixon' fellow?

(long live butterflies!)

[Ynnead]

Originally Posted by LorienTheYounger

You mean Eva Raubal...
(OOC: She didn't use her father's name, remember?)

its more Ironic if you call her Eva hitler. and also she did a lot of israel, in 1948 when isreal was attack , she was able to get all the old germany war planes, like the Fw 190, the Me 262, and the HE 162. and some germany tanks to israel

[Grey Wolf]

Originally Posted by Geordie87

Who is this 'Nixon' fellow?

(long live butterflies!)

He was a lepidoctrist ?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[Ynnead]

Originally Posted by Geordie87

Who is this 'Nixon' fellow?

(long live butterflies!)

he was a vice president

[Geordie]

Originally Posted by Grey Wolf

He was a lepidoctrist ?

Good comeback. If i had a hat, i would take it off to you.

[Wet Mogwai]

Originally Posted by thecreeper

he was a vice president

Too bad he never got a chance to be anything more. Eva's hardline anti-Eisenhower rhetoric led to the end of many political careers in the United States in the 1950s. If Eisenhower hadn't handed so many of her countrymen to the Soviets in the final days of the war, maybe Nixon could have gone on to become President some time in the 60s or 70s.

[Ynnead]

Originally Posted by Wet Mogwai

Too bad he never got a chance to be anything more. Eva's hardline anti-Eisenhower rhetoric led to the end of many political careers in the United States in the 1950s. If Eisenhower hadn't handed so many of her countrymen to the Soviets in the final days of the war, maybe Nixon could have gone on to become President some time in the 60s or 70s.

well you can't blame her, Eisenhower had wanted her arrest after she surrendered to American soldiers in hamburg. and Eisenhower made some serious blunders when it came to west germany. no wonder he was a one term president, sure nixon did go to china, but that drew massive criticism from all sides

[Wet Mogwai]

Originally Posted by thecreeper

well you can't blame her, Eisenhower had wanted her arrest after she surrendered to American soldiers in hamburg. and Eisenhower made some serious blunders when it came to west germany. no wonder he was a one term president, sure nixon did go to china, but that drew massive criticism from all sides

Eisenhower could have saved himself a lot of trouble if he had realized that her goal of maintaining a completely secular government, countering her father's reliance on the occult and his interpretation of the Catholic faith, was a better way to peace. If he had backed her against Adenauer, he could have had a much more friendly administration when she won the election for the Chancelorship.

Of course it didn't help when a radical anti-Adenauer group attempted to kidnap Eisenhower's infant grandson, David, from the family home in Pennsylvania. There is no evidence that Eva was involved, but Eisenhower was too angry and had too little information then. I don't know if there was any truth to the old story, but I've always heard that it was David's father, John Eisenhower's levelheadedness that prevented the General from canceling the election.

I've always been of the opinion that General Eisenhower should have retired in May 1948 instead of listening to Konrad Adenauer and staying involved in Germany.