Pax Buddha

this is my new timeline, tell me what u think. BTW the desision to send missionaries to the Mediteranian countries was real
Pax Buddha

326 BCE: Alexander the Great crosses the Indus and invades Punjab. While mingling with the natives the troops pick up the idea of Buddhism. Alexander himself hangs around some laity. One day he surprises everyone and converts to Buddhism, and proclaims him the next Buddha. This surprise conversion shocks his closest advisers, some of whom even convert themselves.

324 BCE: following Alexander’s conversion Buddhism spreads across his empire.

323 BCE: Alexander dies in Babylon. Following his death Buddhism, never really well grounded in his empire slowly dies out.

Circa 305 BCE: King Ashoka holds the third Buddhist council at Pataliputra. Convened by the monk Moggaliputta Tissa, it was held in order to purify the sangha of the large number of false monks and heretics who had apparently joined the order because of its royal patronage. This council refuted the offending viewpoints and expelled those who held them. In the process, the compilation of the Buddhist scriptures (Tripitaka) was supposedly completed, with the addition of a body of subtle philosophy (abhidharma) to the doctrine (dharma) and monastic discipline (vinaya) that had been recited at the first council. Another result of the third council was, because of the success of Buddhism in Alexander the Greats Empire, the dispatch of missionaries to various countries. Missionaries are dispatched to the Mediterranean countries, like the city states of Greece, Italy and Carthage. In Judea the Buddhists are not very successful, but when they reach Greece their message is heard, and some Greek cities, like Thessalonika and Athens have large populations of Buddhists by the end of the 3rd Century there are even laity in Rome itself.

Sri Lanka is converted by the son and daughter of King Ashoka, Mahinda and Sanghamitta.

234 BCE: Roman Buddhists set up the first western sangha in Rome. Roman Buddhism is comparable to Mahayana Buddhism, idol worship, focus on tradition etc. Roman Buddhism was popular as it already acknowledged the Roman Pantheon, but denies them any special status or role. Their lives in heaven are long and pleasurable, but they are in the same predicament as other creatures, being subject eventually to death and further rebirth in lower states of existence. They are not creators of the universe or in control of human destiny, and Buddhism denies the value of prayer and sacrifice to them. Of the possible modes of rebirth, human existence is preferable, because the deities are so engrossed in their own pleasures that they lose sight of the need for salvation. Enlightenment is possible only for humans. So the Roman Buddhists could keep the comfort of having the old gods, but embrace a more human centered religion.
250 BCE: Independent kingdom of Parthia established.
206 BCE: establishment of Han Dynasty in China, Confucianism is made the state ideology

Approximately 2nd Century BCE: divisions of Mahayana from the main branch of Buddhism (Theravada). Roman Buddhists proclaim support for Mahayana Buddhists

180-87 BCE: Expansion of Han Dynasty in Asia. The Han expanded south of the Yangzi, absorbing land and planting colonies in Annam. Southern Dongbei and north Korea were subjugated, and forces battling the Hunnish Xiongnu nomads penetrated Central Asia as far as the Jaxartes River.

100 BCE: A fourth council, under the patronage of King Kanishka, was held at Jalandhar or in Kashmir. Both branches of Buddhism have participated in this council, including Roman Buddhists, which aimed at creating peace among the various sects, but Theravada Buddhists refuse to recognize its authenticity. Based on the success of Buddhism in the Roman Empire more missionaries are sent into Parthia. The beginning of the network of overlapping overland trade routes known as the Silk Route. The use of the common religion (Buddhism) helps to strengthen it.

1st Century BCE: By the end of the century Pathia had grown into an empire extending from the Euphrates River to the Indus River and from the Oxus River to the Indian Ocean, and the Buddhists gain more and more influence in Pathia. Roman Empire continues to expand under Julius Caesar, who conquered the remainders of Gaul and Spain.

27 BCE: Octavianus emerges from the civil wars without a significant rival, and adopted the title “Augustus†and so became the first Roman emperor. By now all of Italy, Greece, and portions of Asia Minor and Spain are Buddhist, with sangha and laity established across the empire, and a stupa was even set up in Alexandria. Octavianus himself is a Buddhist, and makes it the official religion of the Roman Empire. Soon across the empire new Buddhist schools sprung up, as some sangha already before educated the local boys. Buddhism is now interwoven into the Roman society, but not as such amongst the non-Romans in the Empire, such as the native Celts. In the earliest periods of Romanization, much was probably due to social competition among the native people, whose prestige might be enhanced by possessions or manners which might associate them with such a powerful and successful society as that of Rome, and so the prestigious natives converted to Buddhism. Merchants who also wanted to advance themselves also converted.

16 BCE: the giant Roman laity is constructed in Rome, which contains a giant gold statue of Buddha, surrounded by traditional Roman columns. The temple has a massive fresco of the pantheon of Roman gods looking down on Buddha.

6 BCE: Judea annexed after the collapse of the puppet kingdom of Herod.

0 CE: Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem.

14 CE: Octavianus dies, and power is passed to Tiberius

12 CE: young Jesus causes a ruckus in a Jewish temple attracts the attention of the Roman authorities in Judea. He is taken back to Rome to be looked at by the Roman Buddhist council (including the Roma Lama) in the Sangha Roma. It is then decided that he is to be taken to a sangha in the Alps where other gifted children are trained to be the next Roma Lama.

34 CE: the Roma Lama, Jassius, dies aged 74. Jesus is chosen to be the next RL. He will reign for 47 years.

43 CE: Rome annexed Britian.

47 CE: in Pathia a large group of the population is now Buddhist, but the Zoroastrians still hold the balance of power.

66-73 CE: First Jewish Revolt in Judea. The Roma Lama goes to Judea to try to broker peace with the Jews, but fails.

70 CE: Destruction of the second Temple and Jerusalem

73 CE: Last stand of Jews at Masada.
81 CE: Jesus, the 14th Roma Lama dies in Rome. His era of Roma Lama was one of peace in the order, but his sermons in Rome at the Laity Roma helped to spread the word of Buddhism, and the translation of the Buddhist texts from the silk route. The Buddhist canon known as the Tripitaka, The Sutra Pitaka primarily composed of dialogues between the Buddha and other people. It consists of three collections of writings: the Sutra Pitaka, a collection of discourses; the Vinaya Pitaka, the code of monastic discipline; and the Abhidharma Pitaka, which contains philosophical, psychological, and doctrinal systemizations and classifications. It consists of five groups of texts: Digha Nikaya (Collection of Long Discourses), Majjhima Nikaya (Collection of Medium-Length Discourses), Samyutta Nikaya (Collection of Grouped Discourses), Anguttara Nikaya (Collection of Discourses on Numbered Topics), and Khuddaka Nikaya (Collection of Miscellaneous Texts). In the fifth group, the Jatakas, comprising stories of former lives of the Buddha, and the Dhammapada (Religious Sentences), a summary of the Buddha's teachings on mental discipline and morality, are especially popular.
The texts are translated into Latin and are inscribed onto the walls of the temples.
98 CE: Trajan becomes Emperor. Trajan, an Antonine ruler, conquered Dacia and Arabia, and won several important victories in Parthia. The Roman Empire had reached its height.

170 CE: The Empire in the west was threatened when a host of Germanic tribes, the most powerful of whom were the Marcomanni, smashed through the Danube frontier, overran the adjacent provinces, and pushed as far as northern Italy, where they lay siege to Apuleia. After a long and grimly fought war, they were pushed back, but the pattern of barbarian pressure and incursion was to continue.

212 CE: Emperor Caracalla extended full Roman citizenship to all free-born subjects of the empire, abolishing the distinction between Roman and provincial, and so doing much to create a common sense of Romanitas (an identity with the traditions and institutions of the Roman world). By now Buddhism is instilled within Romanitas, leading to an era of peace. This weakened the Roman empire, along with corrupt leaders.

226 CE: Ardashir I, a Persian vassal-king, rebelled against the Parthians, defeated them at the Battle of Hormuz (224), and founded a new Persian dynasty, the Sassanids. He went on to conquer several minor neighbouring kingdoms, invaded India, levying heavy tribute from the rulers of the Punjab, and conquered Armenia. He also established Buddhism as the official religion of Persia.

253 CE: The Goths and the Heruli had ravaged the shores of the Aegean.

260 CE: Migration of Germans to the area around the Black Sea. There the most prominent were the Goths, who established two confederacies, the Ostgoths (East Goths) and Visigoths (West Goths). The Buddhist council in Rome decides to send missionaries to the area to convert the tribes.

284 CE: Diocletian takes power. He separates the Empire into the West and East Empires
 

Hendryk

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Variations on this theme have been explored before but, AFAIK, not in such detail. (but then, this forum is like a kalpa, going through very long cosmic cycles--it sometimes seems every possible ATL has already been done before, which is no reason not to do it again...)
I'm curious as to how your TL will unfold. So far it looks great: you have already indulged two of my pet AH dreams, the Westward spread of Buddhism and the preemption of Christianity. Another one I have is early cultural exchange between the Western world and China, and I have a feeling it's going to happen in your TL.
 
I like the Timeline. especially that inspite of severe changes only few butterflies seem to occur.
 
I'm just wondering what this Roman Buddhism would look like. After all, it is attempting to establish a foothold in an area that has very different ideas on how the spiritual world works. From what I remember from my Asian Religions survey course, Buddhism seemed quite grounded in the Hindu traditions of India, which are, of course, very different than that of Europe/the Middle East. One of the biggest examples is that while the Buddhists believe that the soul (if that word is appropriate here) continually goes on the cycle of birth, death, rebirth, redeath, etc... until enlightenment is achieved, and the person's "soul" becomes One with...everything, I guess. Most every European religion puts more stock in the world, with people living only once. In death, they are cast into a specific realm to reward/punish their behavior for all eternity. If Buddhism went west, it would proably pick up some of this stuff. I don't even know if we would recognize this "Buddhism" as such.
 
I'm just wondering what this Roman Buddhism would look like. After all, it is attempting to establish a foothold in an area that has very different ideas on how the spiritual world works. From what I remember from my Asian Religions survey course, Buddhism seemed quite grounded in the Hindu traditions of India, which are, of course, very different than that of Europe/the Middle East. One of the biggest examples is that while the Buddhists believe that the soul (if that word is appropriate here) continually goes on the cycle of birth, death, rebirth, redeath, etc... until enlightenment is achieved, and the person's "soul" becomes One with...everything, I guess. Most every European religion puts more stock in the world, with people living only once. In death, they are cast into a specific realm to reward/punish their behavior for all eternity. If Buddhism went west, it would proably pick up some of this stuff. I don't even know if we would recognize this "Buddhism" as such.

well i guess... that the spiritual aspects would eventualy seep in. how would Buddhism effect the agressive, warrior side of society?

Another one I have is early cultural exchange between the Western world and China, and I have a feeling it's going to happen in your TL.

yeah, specificly through the silk road. SPOILER! the two big religions in this world are Buddhism and Confusianism, so lookout. Christianity doesnt exist, and the Zorastrans are an oppresed minority in Persia. the next segment is being worked on now
 
here is the next part of Pax Buddha, plus a revised section

168-170 CE: period of turmoil in China, as warfare erupted between the eunuchs and the bureaucrats.

170 CE: The Empire in the west was threatened when a host of Germanic tribes, the most powerful of whom were the Marcomanni, smashed through the Danube frontier, overran the adjacent provinces, and pushed as far as northern Italy, where they lay siege to Apuleia. After a long and grimly fought war, they were pushed back, but the pattern of barbarian pressure and incursion was to continue.

184 CE: Confucian China begins to spread its influence around its neighbors, such as the Hun tribes to its West, as a way of stabilizing the trade routes. Both Rome and China know of and acknowledge the existence of each other, and have a very healthy trade relationship. Chinese Silks and teas can be found in Britain, and Roman armor design can be seen as an influence on Chinese armor, and the Chinese use the purple dye from Syria. Confucianism catches on in the Eastern Huns (the Xiongnu Huns) and townships are built along the overland trade route. This helps unify and strengthen the Xiongnu Hun Empire.

212 CE: Emperor Caracalla extended full Roman citizenship to all free-born subjects of the empire, abolishing the distinction between Roman and provincial, and so doing much to create a common sense of Romanitas (an identity with the traditions and institutions of the Roman world). By now Buddhism is instilled within Romanitas, leading to an era of peace. This weakened the Roman Empire, along with corrupt leaders.

220 CE: The son of Cao Cao seized the throne and established the Wei dynasty

221 CE: The Shu dynasty was established in south-western China

222 CE: the Wu dynasty established in the south-east of China

226 CE: Ardashir I, a Persian vassal-king, rebelled against the Parthians, defeated them at the Battle of Hormuz (224), and founded a new Persian dynasty, the Sassanids. He went on to conquer several minor neighboring kingdoms, invaded India, levying heavy tribute from the rulers of the Punjab, and conquered Armenia. He also established Buddhism as the official religion of Persia.

253 CE: The Goths and the Heruli had ravaged the shores of the Aegean.

260 CE: Migration of Germans to the area around the Black Sea. There the most prominent were the Goths, who established two confederacies, the Ostgoths (East Goths) and Visigoths (West Goths). The Buddhist council in Rome decides to send missionaries to the area to convert the tribes.

Part2: Migrations, Conversions, and Discovery

284 CE: Diocletian takes power. He separates the Empire into the West and East Empires. The West considers itself the centre of the Roman Buddhist world, as they have the Roma Lama, while the Eastern empire considers itself the centre of the Buddhist world, because in the stupa of Alexandria there is the tooth of Buddha.

303 CE: Diocletian begins the violent persecutions of the Jews. In the face of the persecution the Jews begin the second Exodus, where they leave Judea into Arabia.

304 CE: Xiongnu Huns invade northern China, and begin their consolidation and expansion of power.

350 CE: The Xiongnu Empire now extends from the Western part of China to the shores of the Caspian Sea, developing around the trading cities such as Samarqand and Bokhoro, Toshkent, and Hotan. All along the overland route the Xiongnu Empire is city based, but out along the steppe the Huns are still living the nomadic lifestyle.

360’s CE: Buddhism gains popularity in the German Tribes around the Danube. This is due to the diminishing interest in the traditional pagan beliefs, and the migrant’s desire for a new life

372 BC: the Ostrogoths expand onto the Volga Steppe, where they encounter the Slavs. There Ostrogoths defeat the pagan Slavs and establish themselves on the Steppe, around the rivers Volga and Dneiper.

374 CE: First Confucian University set up in Samarqand.

380 CE: The Visigoths, converted to Buddhism apply to the Roman Empire as a vassal kingdom. This is a benefit for both groups, as the Empire needed more mercenary troops and buffer states between the growing Ostrogoths, and the Visigoths, need protection from the other Lebensraum seeking German tribes. Valentiniun II agrees, and the Roman Empire begins to experience a revival of the old ways, but is still suffering from internal corruption, and a lingering sense of peace, due to the instilling of Buddhism within the Empire. The separation of the Western and Eastern Empire is being more and more evident.

387 CE: Persia invades the Eastern Empire, and after a long war, results in Persia taking the Kingdoms of Armenia, (renamed Persiarmenia), Iberia, Lazica and Abasgains, as well as some of Asia minor. The Eastern Empire accepts this bad bargain as it is necessary to maintain peace along the Eastern Boarder.

400 CE: Arcadius, a general from the Eastern Empire, tries to seize power in Rome, to proclaim himself Emperor, and unite the West and East Empires. He fails dramatically, and the resulting civil war permanently separates the two Empires, the Western Empire calling itself the Roman Empire, the Eastern Calling itself the Byzantine Empire.

402 CE: the Jews in Arabia revolt and are kicked out, forcing them to leave and go into Africa, where they have to migrate around the desert.

406 CE: The Rhine River freezes over, and the Franks and Vandals cross into Gaul. Fighting goes on until 407, but they are kicked out. The results of the invasion are a greater military, which is created by the hiring of mercenaries from the kingdoms of Alemanni and Marcomanni and Quadi or collectively known as the Suevi. Again conversion takes place as the Roma Lama orders that any mercenary have to convert to Buddhism. By 420 the conversion of the Suevi is pretty much complete, or at least in the majority, and a Roman-friendly king, Tellumus, seizes power and mimics the actions of the Visigoths in 380 and becomes a vassal state of the Roman Empire.

412 CE: Ostrogoths defeat the Alans in Caucasus, adding them to their Empire. The Ostrogoths are a growing power in Eastern Europe.

415 CE: Persia invades the Byzantine Empire again. This time the Persians capture more territory such as Palestine and Egypt, giving them a connection to the Mediterranean. Egypt rebels against the Persians, and receives support from the Roman Empire.

420 CE: second Rhine Invasion by the Franks. Under the new British Emperor, Constanius, the Franks are pushed back, and, under the influence of information from China, begins the building of a giant wall along the West bank of the Rhine, to keep out the barbarians out. To counter the wall-building of Constanius, the Roma Lama, Valitarius, decides to send missionaries into the German lands, to convert them rather then to fight them.

421 CE: the Egyptian revolt is crushed by the Persians.

444 CE: the Slavs, kicked out of their homeland by the Ostrogoths migrate westward through Europe. They apply for sanctuary in the Roman Empire. Constanius decides to settle the Slavs in Africa around Carthage, as a buffer from the Persians in Egypt. Before they can be settled, the Slavs work as laborers on the Rhine Wall.

450 CE: Xiongnu Civil War between the Nomad farmers in the north and the town dwellers in the south. The Northern Nomads, the Magyars as they are called, lose to the superior weapons of the town dwelling Xiongnu. To counteract the difference of living standards between the North and the South the Xiongnu Emperor initiates reforms to end the nomadic way of life and to create more of a town based economy that isn’t crouched on the Silk Road.

483 CE: repaired from the Civil War, and with a former nomad warlord in power, the Xiongnu embark on a war with the Persian Empire. Weakened by affluence the Persians cave, and are forced to pay hefty tribute to the Xiongnu. In the west Byzantine takes the opportunity and seizes Judea and Egypt, where it sets up puppet governments.

498 CE: Kavadh, Emperor of Persia was deposed by his orthodox brother Zamasp who had converted to Zoroastrianism while in the desert. With help of the Xiongnu Kavadh is renstated on the throne, and Zoroastrianism is persecuted in the Persian Empire. Meanwhile, seeing how the Confucian System helps internal politics, especially with the example of the Xiongnu, Kavadh studies Confucian texts.

503 CE: Kavadh take back Egypt and Judea from the Byzantine, as well as much of the east of Asia Minor. To stop any consequential invasion of the western part of the Empire, Kavadh imposes hefty tributes on the Byzantine. Garrisons of troops are placed along the border. By now, most of the Slavs are settled around the cities of Carthage, Mahdia and Tunis. The first section of the Rhine wall is completed. Angles, Jutes and Saxons attack Britain, as they cannot penetrate the Rhine Wall and the garrisons. With Britain a hard target to defend, as most of the Roman garrison is in the Rhineland.

510 CE: the Buddhist Franks conquer and unite most of the western Germanic tribes. The Angle, Jute and Saxon invasions on Britain overwhelm the Roman forces, and Tiberius, the Western Emperor, makes the difficult decision to drop Britain from the Empire, and to focus on continental issues, such as the growth in the power of the Persian Empire around the Mediterranean, and a ‘watering down’ of the Imperial line with Hibernian and Gaul born Emperors being more common then Roman born, and the peoples desire for greater representation through an active Senate. Tiberius, the first Emperor born in Rome since Petronius Maximus in 457. Tiberius’s decision to drop Britain is greeted in the Continental Roman Empire with a mixed response. Some are happy with getting rid of Celts, while others are unhappy with Tiberius’s response, fearing which province will be given to the Germans next? Tiberius also hands power over to the Senate, which had for 500 years been a council that had little or no influence on the Emperor, with the Senators being the sons of rich Provincials who had bribed themselves into office, to further promote themselves in Roman society. Tiberius overthrew that system and initiated proper elections amongst the provinces, and allowed the Senate to put forward new proposals and initiatives. One of the Senates first initiatives is the re-creation of the Dole system, this time linked with the Buddhist laity, so that the wheat is doled out to the poor by the monks in the laities in the cities. The Roma Lama is institutionalized, by regulating the donations to the laity and sangha.

525 CE: Irish colonize the western part of Pictland.

527 CE: Justinian becomes Emperor of Byzantine.

528 CE: the Romans left in Britain migrate to the west, to Wales to escape the invading Angles, Saxons and Jutes. The British Romans still call themselves Romans, and the mentality develops that they are the remnants of the Roman Empire. From here on the British Romans will be referred to as the British Roman Empire, and the rest of the Roman Empire is referred to as the Continental Roman Empire.

539 CE: Anglo-Saxon influence on

559 CE: determined to spread the influence of the Byzantine Empire, for it to rival the Continental Empire. Unable to penetrate the Persian Empire, Justinian turns the Byzantine forces north, and in 540 the Byzantines invade the Ostrogoths. The Jouan Jouan, Mongolian vassals of the Xiongnu, flees the Xiongnu iron fist and go west, encountering the Ostrogoths, under attack by the Byzantine. Justinian is quick to make an ally with the Jouan Jouan, which he refers to as the Avars. (Note: the Byzantine and Avars are able to communicate, because through the Silk Road the languages such as Latin and Chinese are common amongst the merchants and scholars, so translators are readily available.) He then sets up a ramshackle alliance with the Avars, paying them to attack the Ostrogoths and promising them land along the Volga. The Rhine Wall, originally proposed by Constanius, is completed.

570 CE: the Ostrogoths surrender to the Avars and Byzantine. The Alans, previously vassals to the Ostrogoths, are freed from their domination.
 
402 CE: the Jews in Arabia revolt and are kicked out, forcing them to leave and go into Africa, where they have to migrate around the desert.

If they are entering Africa via Arabia, Then they are well south of the Desert. This is the Axum Empire [Ethopia] If pushed a little farthur south they will be in the 'Sahel' [grasslands] of Keyna , and the German east Africa. But maybe the "Sheba" connection will allow then to stay in Axum.
 
Why does Diocletian persecute the Jews in the first place? Isthis linked to a deep-seated dissonance between buddhists and Jews? He wasn't a persecutor looking for someone to happen to, the whole Christian thing had a long history.
 
Why does Diocletian persecute the Jews in the first place? Isthis linked to a deep-seated dissonance between buddhists and Jews? He wasn't a persecutor looking for someone to happen to, the whole Christian thing had a long history.

yeha but the Jews are much more 'angry' in ATL. basicly there are more revolts, a Buddhist temple in Judea is burned down, the Roma Lama, as peaceful as he is give Diocletian permision to burn all etc.
 
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