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Old December 8th, 2007, 01:06 AM
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A Duel Crown United Kingdom

What if, instead of an Act of Union, between Scotland & England, there was a Duel Crown Monarchy established in 1707? Although not exactly modelled like the Duel Crowned Austro-Hungarian Empire, it would be somewhat vaugely similar.

So how is British history effected?

And what of the British Empire?

Would democracy still develop throughout this period in Britain or would it be stifled?

Anything else?
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Old December 8th, 2007, 01:07 AM
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That doesn't make sense. That was what did exist before 1707.

Now, a situation like Austria-Hungary is possible if the Union was dissolved at some point in the 19th century, perhaps if 1848 was also a revolutionary year in Britain and Radical ideas persisted. That would presumably formalise any English superiority in such a union (if it's like A-H) as opposed to the theoretically equal pre-1707 partnership.
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I was hinting at this Duel Monarch Britain pre-dated A-H
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I was hinting at this Duel Monarch Britain pre-dated A-H
But it was a dual monarchy before 1707. It just wasn't formalised as such, and there would be no reason to do so, as the reason to amalgamate the parliaments was largely to smooth the path of Hanoverian succession. There would be no reason to formalise a dual monarchy then, it would only weaken London's control and encourage Jacobitism.
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But it was a dual monarchy before 1707. It just wasn't formalised as such, and there would be no reason to do so, as the reason to amalgamate the parliaments was largely to smooth the path of Hanoverian succession. There would be no reason to formalise a dual monarchy then, it would only weaken London's control and encourage Jacobitism.

Oh excuse my spelling

I was just suggesting that the Act in 1707 predated the OTL A-H arrangements, although slightly modified to suit the local circumstances in Britain.
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I was just suggesting that the Act in 1707 predated the OTL A-H arrangements, although slightly modified to suit the local circumstances in Britain.
Look, what don't you get? The Act of Union in 1707 merged two kingdoms in personal union into one united kingdom with a single parliament.

When Austria-Hungary was set up in 1867 it separated one united empire with a single Reichstag into an empire and a kingdom in personal union with separate assemblies.

It's the exact opposite, and it makes no sense to compare the two, because they came about for opposite reasons.
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Look, what don't you get? The Act of Union in 1707 merged two kingdoms in personal union into one united kingdom with a single parliament.

When Austria-Hungary was set up in 1867 it separated one united empire with a single Reichstag into an empire and a kingdom in personal union with separate assemblies.

It's the exact opposite, and it makes no sense to compare the two, because they came about for opposite reasons.

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Old December 8th, 2007, 01:50 AM
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But it was a dual monarchy
Darn. I was hoping this was a thread about a royal dueling tournament -- maybe replacing the racquets with pistols at Wimbledon.
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Old December 8th, 2007, 08:58 AM
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When Austria-Hungary was set up in 1867 it separated one united empire with a single Reichstag into an empire and a kingdom in personal union with separate assemblies. It's the exact opposite, and it makes no sense to compare the two, because they came about for opposite reasons.
It is not quite right. Austria-Hungry was't just a personal union, but a personal union with important commen elements (commen army, navy, foreign, custom and currency policy).
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