Comic Book Character in diffrent Era
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National Allied Publications was started in 1934, and made a good amount of money with its reprinting of former news paper comics. At one point two men approached with the idea for "Superman" but the editors found the art lacking, and the story too complex for children, yet they kept it on file just in case. A similar action occured when Bob Kane tried to get "Batman" in but it was seen as too violent for a company that got rich on cowboy, and funny animals.
On the other hand Timely Comics comes out with characters like the Human Torch, and Namor the sub-mariner. The company's first true editor, writer-artist Joe Simon, teamed with soon-to-be industry legend Jack Kirby to create the first real patriotic hero called Captain America. It was also around this time that a young filler writer under the pen name Stan Lee was given the ability to write for Captain America.
One day Lee was offered the chance to create his own book, as a fan of science and adventure the young man spent four days writing, and making crude drawings for "Those who Defy the Fantastic!" A tale of four explorers who travel around the world fighting electric monsters, and even heading into space. The group was made up of Dr. Reed Richards, a strong heroic man, who was a genuis and also an excellent marksmen, Sue Storm was the stereotypical woman fainting at the drop of a hat, Johnny Storm the younger brother, who is reckless and always getting into trouble, and finally Ben Grimm an ex-circus strong man who drives the Fantasticar.
The comic was quickly a hit, and both National Allied, and Timely Comics rushed to print out more "superheroes." National Allied made simple copies of Timely, and left other ideas on the shelf. Timely let Stan Lee run wild, and the young man came out with amazing ideas. The Incredible Hulk, Dr. Bruce Banner an archeologist deep in the amazon finds a mysterious idol of untold power. He takes it, and is suddenly hit with "Xeno" radiation. He returns to America, and the US military (actually a secret section of the military wanting to turn America into a Nazi state) go after Banner to get the idol. Whenever Banner is in danger, his body changes into that of the Incredible Hulk!
Next came Spider Man: Sgt. Peter Parker was captured in a secret mission into Europe. After refusing to talk he was to be tortured, but the man quickly escaped and fled into neutral Spain. There he met the secret order of The Spider. Parker helped save their leader, and as a reward was given a serum which granted him the powers of a spider: super strength, ability to cling to any surface. Now he fights agianst crime as Spider Man!
After WWII comics went down hill, thanks to the comics code, and people not reading about superheroes anymore. It was in the 60's when Detective Comics (formerly National Allied Publications) decided to once again contend with Marvel Comics (formerly Timely). Editor Julius Schwartz was going through the increasingly large storage room of DC comics. He came across a small folder detailing "Superman." Instead of reviving the old character, Schwartz had writers Gardner Fox and Robert Kanigher, penciler Carmine Infantino and inker Joe Kubert create a new super-speedster, updating and modernizing the Superman's civilian identity, costume, and origin with a science-fiction bent. Now Clark Kent was an astronaut who went to the moon, and discovered Green-K a strange compound which made him faster then a speeding bullet, more powerful then a locomotive, and able to leap buildings in a single bound. Dressed in Red, White, and Blue Superman went about saving the world, and America from Communism!
Seeing such things occurs Bob Kane brougt back his "pet" project Batman. Kane had been adding to the character and its mythos since the early 40's. Now Batman was Bruce Wayne a rich and successful businessman who fought against the social crimes of Gotham city by night as the caped crusader.
On the other hand Timely Comics comes out with characters like the Human Torch, and Namor the sub-mariner. The company's first true editor, writer-artist Joe Simon, teamed with soon-to-be industry legend Jack Kirby to create the first real patriotic hero called Captain America. It was also around this time that a young filler writer under the pen name Stan Lee was given the ability to write for Captain America.
One day Lee was offered the chance to create his own book, as a fan of science and adventure the young man spent four days writing, and making crude drawings for "Those who Defy the Fantastic!" A tale of four explorers who travel around the world fighting electric monsters, and even heading into space. The group was made up of Dr. Reed Richards, a strong heroic man, who was a genuis and also an excellent marksmen, Sue Storm was the stereotypical woman fainting at the drop of a hat, Johnny Storm the younger brother, who is reckless and always getting into trouble, and finally Ben Grimm an ex-circus strong man who drives the Fantasticar.
The comic was quickly a hit, and both National Allied, and Timely Comics rushed to print out more "superheroes." National Allied made simple copies of Timely, and left other ideas on the shelf. Timely let Stan Lee run wild, and the young man came out with amazing ideas. The Incredible Hulk, Dr. Bruce Banner an archeologist deep in the amazon finds a mysterious idol of untold power. He takes it, and is suddenly hit with "Xeno" radiation. He returns to America, and the US military (actually a secret section of the military wanting to turn America into a Nazi state) go after Banner to get the idol. Whenever Banner is in danger, his body changes into that of the Incredible Hulk!
Next came Spider Man: Sgt. Peter Parker was captured in a secret mission into Europe. After refusing to talk he was to be tortured, but the man quickly escaped and fled into neutral Spain. There he met the secret order of The Spider. Parker helped save their leader, and as a reward was given a serum which granted him the powers of a spider: super strength, ability to cling to any surface. Now he fights agianst crime as Spider Man!
After WWII comics went down hill, thanks to the comics code, and people not reading about superheroes anymore. It was in the 60's when Detective Comics (formerly National Allied Publications) decided to once again contend with Marvel Comics (formerly Timely). Editor Julius Schwartz was going through the increasingly large storage room of DC comics. He came across a small folder detailing "Superman." Instead of reviving the old character, Schwartz had writers Gardner Fox and Robert Kanigher, penciler Carmine Infantino and inker Joe Kubert create a new super-speedster, updating and modernizing the Superman's civilian identity, costume, and origin with a science-fiction bent. Now Clark Kent was an astronaut who went to the moon, and discovered Green-K a strange compound which made him faster then a speeding bullet, more powerful then a locomotive, and able to leap buildings in a single bound. Dressed in Red, White, and Blue Superman went about saving the world, and America from Communism!
Seeing such things occurs Bob Kane brougt back his "pet" project Batman. Kane had been adding to the character and its mythos since the early 40's. Now Batman was Bruce Wayne a rich and successful businessman who fought against the social crimes of Gotham city by night as the caped crusader.
That's pretty damn sweet 
Would they be "Updated" character like in the 50's for Timely/Marvel? Would something like x-men be possible?
Imagine Marvel version of Earth-2
At least we can safetly butterfly 60's Batman campy serie out of the way (a spider-man one?), if there was a robin he would be quite different as he was invented essentially out of market research Although Batman might have loose it's gothicness if he somehow written more as grounded in reality, Metropolis and Gotham might be take out of the way
Would Golden age Bruce Banner transform in Golden Age if he's about to have sex with a woman with STD? (as he transform each time he's in danger)
Would they be "Updated" character like in the 50's for Timely/Marvel? Would something like x-men be possible?
Imagine Marvel version of Earth-2
At least we can safetly butterfly 60's Batman campy serie out of the way (a spider-man one?), if there was a robin he would be quite different as he was invented essentially out of market research
Although Batman might have loose it's gothicness if he somehow written more as grounded in reality, Metropolis and Gotham might be take out of the wayWould Golden age Bruce Banner transform in Golden Age if he's about to have sex with a woman with STD? (as he transform each time he's in danger
)Well first no Robin. Cause Bob Kane was against a kid sidekick, and in the 60's we start seeing more college kids reading comic books, so no need to camp it up.
We may see updated Marvel heroes, but another thing to notice is that if Timely Comics is the dominate publisher then Charlton Comics may be purchased by them. So the Question, Blue Beetle may fall under Marvel, as Steve Ditko did make them.
We may see updated Marvel heroes, but another thing to notice is that if Timely Comics is the dominate publisher then Charlton Comics may be purchased by them. So the Question, Blue Beetle may fall under Marvel, as Steve Ditko did make them.
Yea Spider-man probably would be the one stuck with a kid, like I said if there was a robin in that scenario he would be different (Batman teenage amateur make himself a costume). Spider-man might follow the evolution line close to the one of batman (grim'n gritty anyone?)
Marvel owning most super hero would lead to a much bigger avenger team (battling Nazi I guess)
Marvel owning most super hero would lead to a much bigger avenger team (battling Nazi I guess)
With a college age audience developing in the 60's and beyond, look for more sexual themes in the stories occuring, especially in the 70's. I'd also bet on the present day graphic novel starting early than it did OTN.
With this all happening, would anime crossover from Japan earlier?
With this all happening, would anime crossover from Japan earlier?
With a college age audience developing in the 60's and beyond, look for more sexual themes in the stories occuring, especially in the 70's. I'd also bet on the present day graphic novel starting early than it did OTN.
With this all happening, would anime crossover from Japan earlier?
I think social themes are more likely. As the 60's was more counter culture, and Spider-man being a teenager with problems, and the Hulk misunderstood did better then Superman fights for the flag. So perhaps Superman and Batman are dealing with drugs, racial intolerence, and things like vietnam while Captain America and Spider-man are stuck in the 50's so to speak.
An important thing is what Marvel will do in the 60's. Either is does what DC did OTL and bring back Golden age heroes with a more modern twist, or simply age the heroes they already have.
For example Marvel can re-do Spider-Man for the 60's. He is still a crime fighter, but now he no longer is Sgt. Peter Parker, but simply Parker. Maybe he works in New York City, and yes he did get his powers from some secret group during the war, but WWII is changed to Korea, and later Vietnam, as Parker is only in his late twenties. By day he has a job at some college, but by night he fights crime as Spider-man. DC says he is just a cheap Batman rip off, but the character comes into his own.
For example Marvel can re-do Spider-Man for the 60's. He is still a crime fighter, but now he no longer is Sgt. Peter Parker, but simply Parker. Maybe he works in New York City, and yes he did get his powers from some secret group during the war, but WWII is changed to Korea, and later Vietnam, as Parker is only in his late twenties. By day he has a job at some college, but by night he fights crime as Spider-man. DC says he is just a cheap Batman rip off, but the character comes into his own.
Well maybe for some reason Batman will actually end up being gay (although you got to admit it's less pognant having a guy die in your arm than a dismell in distress)
Anyway, most of the character update back in 50's-60's were all about sci-fi so in a way they might just become what they were OTL (Actually they are some pretty good odd that Stan Lee would make them, but then he probably would have not as much Fandom as OTL as he would be mostly known for doing "update) then you would have a marvel univers with DC mecanic.
The Parker you propose is rather interesitng in some way he would be close from an evolving Nick Fury (Although just imagin if Nick Fury was done realisticly considering all the war he fought in, he would have several case of post-traumatic stress disorder at the same time)
Doctor Strange assistant wong would probably be a racist stereotype of Philipinos servant
Norman Obsorn probably very close to what Lex Luthor use to be
Gwen Stacy would probably have stick to be spider-man girlfriend (Mary-Jane was too much of her time)
(although you got to admit it's less pognant having a guy die in your arm than a dismell in distress)Anyway, most of the character update back in 50's-60's were all about sci-fi so in a way they might just become what they were OTL (Actually they are some pretty good odd that Stan Lee would make them, but then he probably would have not as much Fandom as OTL as he would be mostly known for doing "update) then you would have a marvel univers with DC mecanic.
The Parker you propose is rather interesitng in some way he would be close from an evolving Nick Fury (Although just imagin if Nick Fury was done realisticly considering all the war he fought in, he would have several case of post-traumatic stress disorder at the same time)
Doctor Strange assistant wong would probably be a racist stereotype of Philipinos servant
Norman Obsorn probably very close to what Lex Luthor use to be
Gwen Stacy would probably have stick to be spider-man girlfriend (Mary-Jane was too much of her time)
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