Challenge: the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies unite Italy
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Ferdinand of Bourbon performs better than IOTL would be the obvious answer
He was not a bad guy per se, but the continuous conspiracies and a certain personal lazyness derailed him.
It's not easy anyway: to unify Italy climbing up along the peninsula is certainly much harder than putting together the north, and then coming down.
Have a look at the Talleyrand Plan. ITTL, Ferdinand is a better man and king; still he follows the lead of Intermaria/Tuscany
He was not a bad guy per se, but the continuous conspiracies and a certain personal lazyness derailed him.
It's not easy anyway: to unify Italy climbing up along the peninsula is certainly much harder than putting together the north, and then coming down.
Have a look at the Talleyrand Plan. ITTL, Ferdinand is a better man and king; still he follows the lead of Intermaria/Tuscany
Grey Wolf
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It gets harder when there are other kingdoms in the equation. I realise of course that Sardinia was ALWAYS there as a kingdom, but until after Vienna, Savoy's main status was a dukedom, that happened to have the kingship of Sardinia attached. Whilst in essence Piedmont-Sardinia was still this (Piedmont not being a kingdom) after Vienna, its ruler became increasingly seen as the major king of the North. And after Vienna, the Viceroyalties of Lombardy and Venetia emphasised formal Habsburg power over these domains as sub-kingdoms of the new Austrian Empire.
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Grey Wolf
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Grey Wolf
How far back do you have to go to include the kingship of Sardinia without savoy into the the two Sicilies?
Grey Wolf
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http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/regents/italy/savoy.htm
1720 if I understood the question right
But of course, BEFORE then SOMEONE ELSE had Sardinia... I remember it was part of Aragon's crown at one point...
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Grey Wolf
Actually, the dukes of Savoy got the kingdom of Sicily at the end of the Spanish succession war, in 1708.
Later in 1720 they swapped it with Sardinia.
Now a good POD would be if they don't go for the swap
Later in 1720 they swapped it with Sardinia.
Now a good POD would be if they don't go for the swap
http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/regents/italy/savoy.htm
1720 if I understood the question right
But of course, BEFORE then SOMEONE ELSE had Sardinia... I remember it was part of Aragon's crown at one point...
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Grey Wolf
It was given to Austria, who swaped it for Sicily. If someone else (like a cadet branch of the Habsburgs, or even the Spanish Bourbons) was designated king of Naples-Sicily-Sardinia, one could see a Kingdom of the Three Sicilies.