DBWI: Happy Pacifican Independence day!!

[Voice of The Empire]

has it really been twelve years since the states of utah, washington, idaho, Oregon, and California declared their independence from the formerly United states?

i just got back from the independence day celebrations up at Portland, and i've been thinking ever since. i know relations with the US and the CSA havent been exactly, cordial, since the split; my little brother is serving on the border in California, and he tells me all the time about these little clashes with the confederates every so often. and i remember the second war of independence, when bush SR launched his bid to reconquer us in '94. i served in Utah.

but, still. i wonder what would have happened if the second war had ended with our defeat. how would you guys have treated us?

[Mr_ Bondoc]

While it may seem very disturbing, consider that there is historical precedent in democracies for the actions of President George H.W. Bush in 1994. With Great Britain, just remember the massive crackdown P.M. John Allseebrook Simon placed on dissent during the 1924 Zinoviev Letter,the 1925 Dublin Uprising, and the 1926 House of Commons Uprising....

[LacheyS]

At least there wouldn't be this terrible Cold War-like antagonism. It might be helped if the newspapers in America actually reported the money being spent on the Shadow War, instead of alleging that all that money goes to fighting drugs or terrorists. Instead, all you get is the occasional mention in the underground papers, but they never get it straight.

If it hadn't been for the fact that the missile plants near Sacramento and San Francisco had fallen into Pacifica's hands, the war might have gone on a lot longer than it did.

[Voice of The Empire]

yeah, i remember hearing about that when i was with the army during the offensive into colorado. im glad we havent had to use it yet. im just glad congress forced him to back down after that.

still, i wish we had another chance at the bastard. i was with the 401st when we found the "detention" camps in the middle of Colorado. i know most US people dont want to admit it, and i know what they tell you guys in europe, but i was THERE.

[LacheyS]

Is it true that there were massive numbers of births nine months after the first Independence Day? Surely there could have been other ways to celebrate.

[Voice of The Empire]

well.... when it happens....

im wondering about the CSA though. those three divisions they jus moved into Nevada make me nervous.

[TheMann]

Well, I'm living in the liberated city of Seattle.

My family in Portland is also happy to be where they are, too. The USA? What's that?

[Haggis]

Damn Pacificans! You don't know how good you're missing it in the USA. We've got tax breaks and all these nice new guns. Pretty soon we're gonna destroy you bastards.

[TheMann]

So, Mr. Haggis, you think you can destroy the greatest nation in the world?

You guys are just mad that you lost us - blame the Republicans, we live by our rules, and you guys were the ones who tried to put us down - good luck with all of that.

Oh, I found this boys. I think you'll like it.

US President Bush is negotiating with Pacifica President Robert Kellington, right? Well, one of my contacts in the government leaked me this.

A permanent peace deal is coming - and we insisted on including Nevada in our nation. And proving just how ball-less the Elephants are, we actually got it.

This is gonna be our nation if this deal is agreed to. I think the guys in San Francisco are gonna like this.



We get Nevada in return for withdrawing from Colorado, Wyoming, Montana and Arizona, and We get the northern third of Baja from Mexico for withdrawing from the rest. Good deal, I believe.

[HueyLong]

Lets see how you guys like dealing with the religious war in Utah- Mormons, Gentiles and Greasers.

[Nicole]

Hm, looking at the Pacifican dealings with the Scientologists, I think the Mormons won't be a problem- the Pacificans actually seem to believe in tolerating non-standard faiths, unlike you Yankees...

[HueyLong]

The problem is that the Mormons aren't willing to stand non-Mormon faiths- they are the ones who jumped on Catholics, Indian animists and "Gentile" Christians.

The US Army was the one defending against zealots. These are sick people- children with bombs, women from their harems "empowered by faith"- suicide bombing.

And before you say I'm spouting force fed propaganda, I was there.

[Nicole]

Originally Posted by HueyLong

The problem is that the Mormons aren't willing to stand non-Mormon faiths- they are the ones who jumped on Catholics, Indian animists and "Gentile" Christians.

The US Army was the one defending against zealots. These are sick people- children with bombs, women from their harems "empowered by faith"- suicide bombing.

And before you say I'm spouting force fed propaganda, I was there.

If you were there (and forgive me for doubting that), then how do you explain the Mt. Zion Massacre, where US Army fired on a Mormon compund and killed no less and 15 children and 35 adults... BEFORE any notable Mormon violence had occured?

[Pyro]

On this day of celebration for Pacifica, I would like to thank our southern neighbours to inspire the formerly-Canadian provinces of British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan and the Yukon & Northwest Territories to throw off the shackles of the oppression from Ottawa. No longer do we have to worry about the Liberal oligarchy taking the people's wealth and transferring East.

Happy Pacifican Indepence Day from the West Canadian Republic!

[LacheyS]

The Cuban Ambassador sends his fraternal greetings, by the way.

I saw him down at the party in Soul City (the African quarter of SanFran)yesterday. He'd had a little too much to drink, but that only meant the cigars got passed around all the more freely.

He mentioned the recent American air strikes in Brazil. Do those Yankee imperialists ever give up? I'm so glad that Pacifica managed to free itself.

[Imperator]

You Pacificans may rest easy with your independence for another year or two, but just you wait. Once our Star Wars Missile Defense System is up and running, I'm positive that the US will take the first chance to rain fiery destruction down upon you without fear of retribution. Last week's passage of that Senate bill expanding production of the new bunker busting nukes is a warning that should not go unheeded.

[LacheyS]

Originally Posted by TheMann

So, Mr. Haggis, you think you can destroy the greatest nation in the world?

You guys are just mad that you lost us - blame the Republicans, we live by our rules, and you guys were the ones who tried to put us down - good luck with all of that.

Oh, I found this boys. I think you'll like it.

US President Bush is negotiating with Pacifica President Robert Kellington, right? Well, one of my contacts in the government leaked me this.

A permanent peace deal is coming - and we insisted on including Nevada in our nation. And proving just how ball-less the Elephants are, we actually got it.

This is gonna be our nation if this deal is agreed to. I think the guys in San Francisco are gonna like this.



We get Nevada in return for withdrawing from Colorado, Wyoming, Montana and Arizona, and We get the northern third of Baja from Mexico for withdrawing from the rest. Good deal, I believe.

I don't think that we should keep Baja. Irregardless of the past between us, we are never going to move forward in relations with Mexico if we keep it. I would prefer that we support the Pan-Mexican Movement in Arizona and New Mexico.

[Mr_ Bondoc]

Originally Posted by Haggis

Damn Pacificans! You don't know how good you're missing it in the USA. We've got tax breaks and all these nice new guns. Pretty soon we're gonna destroy you bastards.

Well, unlike you we have comprehensive education, complete health-care coverage, the right to the best medical marijuana money can buy, and the right to sleep with any consenting person without fear of arrest for "morals conduct", plus more than 3 channels on the TV set...

Personally you can keep your Spam and Velveeta Cheese diets to yourselves....

[HueyLong]

Originally Posted by Imajin

If you were there (and forgive me for doubting that), then how do you explain the Mt. Zion Massacre, where US Army fired on a Mormon compund and killed no less and 15 children and 35 adults... BEFORE any notable Mormon violence had occured?

Your *Pacifican* propaganda tends to gloss over the fact that the compound assaulted was being held by Mormon extremists who had kidnapped fourteen US citizens, all Gentiles.

And your account strangely adds in children casualties. Before the actaul assault, the children in the compound were forced to commit suicide. At least one remained when our forces breached the perimeter and blew himself apart, yelling "Deus Veult!"

To claim that the good men involved in service there willingly harmed children is despicable. I know a few involved in the actual operation, and I will hold their accounts far above any Pacifican/terrorist rag,

[LacheyS]

Originally Posted by Imperator

You Pacificans may rest easy with your independence for another year or two, but just you wait. Once our Star Wars Missile Defense System is up and running, I'm positive that the US will take the first chance to rain fiery destruction down upon you without fear of retribution. Last week's passage of that Senate bill expanding production of the new bunker busting nukes is a warning that should not go unheeded.

And you think that we don't have measures of our own. There are loyal Pacificans in each of your major cities and, unlike our good friends the Arabs, we blend perfectly into your cities. If you rain down destruction on us, I think the President will gladly give the order to our people to perform their suicide bombing. After all, when you've eliminated their families, they don't have much else to live for. The Arabs have taught us that desperate times makes for desperate measures. Pacifica doesn't want war, but, by God, you'll get one if you ask for it.

And don't forget the graveyard of scrap metal that used to be your Air Force. We shot down over six thousand jets and helicopters during the war. However, if you're willing to contribute to our supply of raw materials by flying them in, so be it.