“John [Nathan-Turner] wanted to resign from the show. Michael Grade stopped him. … Nobody wanted to do Doctor Who. The show was too much trouble."
"They [the BBC] were inimical to it, and they admit it now. I spoke to Michael Grade not too long ago. He says just didn't 'get' Doctor Who, they didn't know what they had on their hands. ... [JN-T] made it very hard for them to turn that show off. We know he made it hard; they actually couldn't! They had to lie about what they were doing and then have a second go at it!"[1]
"There had been a perfect storm as the hiatus, the production issues of Trial of a Time Lord, the death of Robert Holmes, the departure of Eric Saward and his interview with Starburst, and the demand for him to personally sack his leading man and friend. Already disgruntled with negative fan press and BBC politics, Nathan-Turner was pushed to breaking point. Despite all that it would have been unrealistic to expect him to stand up for Colin Baker. Doing that would have risked his career and even people with good office politics skills would have blanched at that."
"I know, because he told me, that it was a whim and once he'd started he had he couldn't stop. He'd waited quite a few days, mulling over whether to sack Colin, miserable as hell, and then just snapped. If he'd had just a minute to think before he phoned up Powell [Head of Drama], it wouldn't have happened."[2]
"And of course I was fired anyway! John made sure that I had work afterwards - he didn't have to do that but I think he felt guilty that he hadn't found another way."
"Nathan-Turner would go on to produce a series of Bergerac in 1987. In his memoirs, he cites "boredom" as his reasons for leaving. His final show was the 1989-1994 soap opera Play's The Thing, starring Colin Baker as the hapless theatre manager Dougie Smith."[3]
"Who's Producer"
"Clive Doig, the brain behind popular kid shows Jigsaw, Eureka, and Beat The Teacher, and groundbreaking deaf kid's show Vision On, has been made producer of Dr Who. This is not the first trip on the Tardis for Doig. In the very first series with William Hartnell, Doig was one of the vision mixers: responsible for which camera was filming during a scene."
"Mark Shivas was an old schoolfriend of mine and was Head of Series: I suggested that I should produce Doctor Who because John Nathan-Turner was leaving. I proposed a female lead as Doctor Who..."[4]
"DOC-HER WHO"
"Miranda Richardson Goes From Queen to Time Lord"
"In her first two years in the spotlight, she was sent script after script that featured dodgy and demonic female characters – "'a woman with a knife who's after guys' kind of shit," she says. At the same time she was offered Doctor Who, she was offered the Glenn Close role in Fatal Attraction, which could have made her name in Hollywood.
" "Clive Doig had seen me in Blackadderand he'd like how Queenie could both be so daffy and so dangerous, that was how he kept saying he wanted the Doctor to be," says Richardson. "Now here was a straight choice, I could be a quirky silly space hero or I could be be the evil bitch forever. That was a tough decision!" she laughs."
"Clive had just a few months in which to get everything done and I'm pretty sure that's why he grabbed me - female Doctor, female script editor, and who was available and knew the show? This happens to me just after I failed to sell a new script to Gems [6] and suddenly I'm a script editor! That happens on telly, not in telly! [laughs]"
"While Doig had made sure to find his star and script editor as soon as possible, Richardson was committed to filming Empire of the Sun and there was a good chance to overruns. It was assumed that Colin Baker would agree to film a regeneration story and that this would cover any shortages.
"Doig and Clegg's first port of call was Pip and Jane Baker - a husband-and-wife team who had proved they could deliver scripts fast - to create the first Seventh Doctor story, a Rani/Doctor clash called Strange Matter. Philip Martin was sought out for his unused script, Mission to Magnus, which would be used as the regeneration story; Clegg threw in her own used script, The Elite (feeling the Daleks would cement the female Doctor was 'real') and commissioned a new writer, Andrew Cartmel, to complete it; and Peter Hammond and Graham Williams were both contacted about Paradise 5 and The Nightmare Fair, respectively. New writer Stephen Wyatt sought out the new team and pitched a script that, while unused, allowed him to swiftly pitch Paradise Towers. [6]
"All of this was thrown into chaos when the Strange Matter scripts actually came in and when Colin Baker insulted Michael Grade in an interview with the Sun."
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[1] These excerpts are all real quotes from DWM interviews, up to "They had to lie" (which is a slight alteration).
[2] The "mulling it over" sentence is a rewrite of a real sentence from Russell's OTL interview. JN-T had indeed spent long days agonising about whether to fire Colin.
[3]Andrew Cartmell has said JN-T was offered Bergerac but turned it down - and was angry at being offered it. (This would probably have been in 1988 or thereabouts, which I'm fudging.) Theatre was both JN-T's background and a passion.
[4] Slight edit of a real quote (in the real one, "supposedly leaving" and another line about Mark Shivas). He really did propose a female lead.
[5] Real article and she really was offered Fatal Attraction. The second paragraph is all original
[6] Wyatt sought out JN-T before Cartmel was even hired and Cartmel's agent recommended him to JN-T. Both of these things will still happen with Doig. JN-T deliberately looked for writers unconnected to Saward, which isn't an issue here.
- Gary Downie, Doctor Who Magazine #338
"They [the BBC] were inimical to it, and they admit it now. I spoke to Michael Grade not too long ago. He says just didn't 'get' Doctor Who, they didn't know what they had on their hands. ... [JN-T] made it very hard for them to turn that show off. We know he made it hard; they actually couldn't! They had to lie about what they were doing and then have a second go at it!"[1]
- Steven Moffat, DM #452: The Trial of John Nathan-Turner Part 2
"There had been a perfect storm as the hiatus, the production issues of Trial of a Time Lord, the death of Robert Holmes, the departure of Eric Saward and his interview with Starburst, and the demand for him to personally sack his leading man and friend. Already disgruntled with negative fan press and BBC politics, Nathan-Turner was pushed to breaking point. Despite all that it would have been unrealistic to expect him to stand up for Colin Baker. Doing that would have risked his career and even people with good office politics skills would have blanched at that."
- Trial of a TV Show: Doctor Who in 1984-88 by David Bishop
"I know, because he told me, that it was a whim and once he'd started he had he couldn't stop. He'd waited quite a few days, mulling over whether to sack Colin, miserable as hell, and then just snapped. If he'd had just a minute to think before he phoned up Powell [Head of Drama], it wouldn't have happened."[2]
- Gary Russell, DWM #452: The Trial of John Nathan-Turner Part 2
"And of course I was fired anyway! John made sure that I had work afterwards - he didn't have to do that but I think he felt guilty that he hadn't found another way."
- Colin Baker, DWM #334
"Nathan-Turner would go on to produce a series of Bergerac in 1987. In his memoirs, he cites "boredom" as his reasons for leaving. His final show was the 1989-1994 soap opera Play's The Thing, starring Colin Baker as the hapless theatre manager Dougie Smith."[3]
- Wikipedia, "Later Career"
"Who's Producer"
"Clive Doig, the brain behind popular kid shows Jigsaw, Eureka, and Beat The Teacher, and groundbreaking deaf kid's show Vision On, has been made producer of Dr Who. This is not the first trip on the Tardis for Doig. In the very first series with William Hartnell, Doig was one of the vision mixers: responsible for which camera was filming during a scene."
- Daily Mail, 27th November 1986
"Mark Shivas was an old schoolfriend of mine and was Head of Series: I suggested that I should produce Doctor Who because John Nathan-Turner was leaving. I proposed a female lead as Doctor Who..."[4]
- Clive Doig, DWM #473
"DOC-HER WHO"
"Miranda Richardson Goes From Queen to Time Lord"
- The Sun, 16th December 1986
"In her first two years in the spotlight, she was sent script after script that featured dodgy and demonic female characters – "'a woman with a knife who's after guys' kind of shit," she says. At the same time she was offered Doctor Who, she was offered the Glenn Close role in Fatal Attraction, which could have made her name in Hollywood.
" "Clive Doig had seen me in Blackadderand he'd like how Queenie could both be so daffy and so dangerous, that was how he kept saying he wanted the Doctor to be," says Richardson. "Now here was a straight choice, I could be a quirky silly space hero or I could be be the evil bitch forever. That was a tough decision!" she laughs."
- The Independent, "Miranda Richardson: 'I hate our sneering attitude to success'" (20th April 2013)[5]
"Clive had just a few months in which to get everything done and I'm pretty sure that's why he grabbed me - female Doctor, female script editor, and who was available and knew the show? This happens to me just after I failed to sell a new script to Gems [6] and suddenly I'm a script editor! That happens on telly, not in telly! [laughs]"
- Barbara Clegg, Change: A Moment Too Late? (Mission to Magnus DVD feature)
"While Doig had made sure to find his star and script editor as soon as possible, Richardson was committed to filming Empire of the Sun and there was a good chance to overruns. It was assumed that Colin Baker would agree to film a regeneration story and that this would cover any shortages.
"Doig and Clegg's first port of call was Pip and Jane Baker - a husband-and-wife team who had proved they could deliver scripts fast - to create the first Seventh Doctor story, a Rani/Doctor clash called Strange Matter. Philip Martin was sought out for his unused script, Mission to Magnus, which would be used as the regeneration story; Clegg threw in her own used script, The Elite (feeling the Daleks would cement the female Doctor was 'real') and commissioned a new writer, Andrew Cartmel, to complete it; and Peter Hammond and Graham Williams were both contacted about Paradise 5 and The Nightmare Fair, respectively. New writer Stephen Wyatt sought out the new team and pitched a script that, while unused, allowed him to swiftly pitch Paradise Towers. [6]
"All of this was thrown into chaos when the Strange Matter scripts actually came in and when Colin Baker insulted Michael Grade in an interview with the Sun."
- A Brief History of Time Travel, Mission to Magnus
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[1] These excerpts are all real quotes from DWM interviews, up to "They had to lie" (which is a slight alteration).
[2] The "mulling it over" sentence is a rewrite of a real sentence from Russell's OTL interview. JN-T had indeed spent long days agonising about whether to fire Colin.
[3]Andrew Cartmell has said JN-T was offered Bergerac but turned it down - and was angry at being offered it. (This would probably have been in 1988 or thereabouts, which I'm fudging.) Theatre was both JN-T's background and a passion.
[4] Slight edit of a real quote (in the real one, "supposedly leaving" and another line about Mark Shivas). He really did propose a female lead.
[5] Real article and she really was offered Fatal Attraction. The second paragraph is all original
[6] Wyatt sought out JN-T before Cartmel was even hired and Cartmel's agent recommended him to JN-T. Both of these things will still happen with Doig. JN-T deliberately looked for writers unconnected to Saward, which isn't an issue here.