WI: Oswald kills Jackie?

Kaiser K

What if for some reason or another. The bullet that killed John F. Kennedy instead accidently strikes Jackie. Killing her instead of the President (Who may or may not have been hit by the first bullet, doesn't really matter).

What are the ramifcations and fallout from a Jackie Kennedy assassination instead of a John F. Kennedy assassination? And what happens to Oswald in this case. Presuming he is caught as OTL?
 

Nivek

Kaiser K said:
What if for some reason or another. The bullet that killed John F. Kennedy instead accidently strikes Jackie. Killing her instead of the President (Who may or may not have been hit by the first bullet, doesn't really matter).

What are the ramifcations and fallout from a Jackie Kennedy assassination instead of a John F. Kennedy assassination? And what happens to Oswald in this case. Presuming he is caught as OTL?
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Would Jack ruby still kill oswald like otl? if not we have a injured , weakend and maybe broken kennedy, even if unfaithful and all, he did was fond of jackie
 
Georgepatton

Georgepatton

U.S David said:
How can you not support a man who has just loss his wife. That would be th main question, espacially seeing those kids without a mother
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How can I support a man who won't leave politics to take care of his motherless children?

It's possible to think about it both ways.

I don't disagree that there would be great sympathy for Kennedy in public opinion, but much still depends on what actually happens in 1964, who the Republicans nominate, and so on.
 

Johnrankins

U.S David said:
How can you not support a man who has just loss his wife. That would be th main question, espacially seeing those kids without a mother
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A number of people. Those who weren't going to vote for Kennedy and don't act entirely on their emotions, including those who ALWAYS vote Republican. People who hated JFK for one reason or another and couldn't care less how much he would suffer. Those who would think the kids need at least one parent to take care of them like Georgepatton said.
 

Paul V McNutt

Banned
There is a sympathy vote but after the 1964 Civil Rights Act and before the 1965 Civil Rights Act Kennedy is going lose Southern states.
 

Locke01

Kaiser K said:
And what happens to Oswald in this case. Presuming he is caught as OTL?
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Assuming Oswald isn't killed by Ruby in this scenario, he'll probably be tried by the States of Texas for the murder of Jackie Kennedy in Dallas. The killing of a President-much less a member of his family-wasn't a federal crime in 1963. So, it's the State of Texas or bust, and murder down there, then as now, is a capital crime. And he'll certainly be convicted of same. Whether or not a death sentence will be carried out in that era is another matter. Executions were becoming ever more rare in that period, even in Texas (the last Texas execution in the pre-Furman era was in 1964). So, who knows?
 

redlightning

Banned
Kennedy probably can pass much of any legislation that he wants because of the sympathy vote. Civil Rights gets passed because of a sympathy vote as does some for the New Frontier. As Kennedy escalates the country into Vietnam, people will be reasoning that her death had something to do with his decline as President when it was that he was really just mediocre.
 

Caspian

Banned
The Civil Rights Act didn't pass purely because of sympathy for the assassinated JFK - it still took a Herculean effort on the part of Johnson to get it through Congress (particularly the relevant Congressional committees).

Kennedy didn't know how to work Congress, and he never gave Johnson any power - if he's temporarily unable to govern due to his own injuries and the death of his wife, the Civil Rights Act is going to die in Congress. Kennedy will win reelection (if he runs, which he may be unable or unwilling to do), and he'll probably be succeeded by someone other than Johnson, but the CRA is not going to pass before 1965 at the earliest.
 

Paul V McNutt

Banned
I wrote a TL about Oswald going to trail for the two murders. He would certainly still kill Officer Tippit ITTL. I did not think a Dallas judge would give Oswald a plea bargin, unless he or she was retiring. So he would probably get the death penalty. I thought that conspiracy theorists would file enough appeals to drag his case past 1972 and have Fuhrman v Georgia cancel his execution. The death of a First Lady would not inspire nearly as many conspiracy theories. oOswald is more likely to be executed ITTL.
 

Redhand

Banned
Paul V McNutt said:
There is a sympathy vote but after the 1964 Civil Rights Act and before the 1965 Civil Rights Act Kennedy is going lose Southern states.
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Some states yes, but I can't see Goldwater doing that well in the south. He wasn't for the CRA but this was for all the wrong reasons to many in the South. He genuinely did believe in states rights and had no real racist motives. Remember that they had hated Republicans with a passion for 100 years and Nixon was the only one that turned the tide somewhat until you had Jerry Falwell and the evangelical movement come about and the Dixiecrats went away. Maybe you see a Wallace like candidate come about 4 years early.
 

Paul V McNutt

Banned
Redhand said:
Some states yes, but I can't see Goldwater doing that well in the south. He wasn't for the CRA but this was for all the wrong reasons to many in the South. He genuinely did believe in states rights and had no real racist motives. Remember that they had hated Republicans with a passion for 100 years and Nixon was the only one that turned the tide somewhat until you had Jerry Falwell and the evangelical movement come about and the Dixiecrats went away. Maybe you see a Wallace like candidate come about 4 years early.
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Goldwater carried South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisana.
 
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