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Old February 7th, 2014, 09:34 AM
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The 1899 Federal Election saw little change except a shift in voting towards the Liberal party of the of incumbant Prime Minister Richard Seddon. Despite being autocratic in outlook within his own party, his dynamism and great public oratory skills made him popular with the public, despite his oft called political name of "King Dick". He was also in favour of protectionist policies, leading to a natural alliance with the waning Protectionist Party.

In the Senate this time the coalition of the two parties above was to achieve a workable majority.

1899 Australasian Federal Election Results

Party/Seats House of Representatives
Protectionist Party 26
Free Trade Party 27
State Labour Parties 18
Independent 2
Liberal 18
Other 0
Total 91

Protectionist/Liberal/Independent 46
Free Trade Party 27

Party/Seats won Senate
Protectionist Party 11
Free Trade Party 14
State Labour Parties 11
Liberal 15
Independents 3
Total 54


The main achievements during the course of Richard Seddon's term was the Old Age Pension Act 1900, also enthusiastically supported by Labour members.

Also during 1900 an Australasian Protectorate was declared over Tonga, which kept it's own monarch and was responsible for it's own internal affairs, it's defense and foreign policy being guided by Australasia. The island of Niue was also annexed to Australasia in 1900.
The era also brought great domestic expansion and economic prosperity, the depression years on the mid 1890's finally having passed behind.

By the end of Seddon's first term in 1903 Prince Victor was due to take over the office of Governor-General. The Prince had proved extremely popular with his Australasian subjects. A naturally affable man who was able to communicate well with people of all levels and with a quicker than average wit, both him and his wife had proven to be well regarded.

He had particularly endeared himself by a strong love of sports and in particular cricket, already a National past time in Australasia and in particular by making a well made 44 for Dandenong vs England in the 1895 Ashes Cricket tour by England, which Australasia won 4-1, much to local joy.


His family had also expanded, with two more daughters, Marie(in 1899) and Charlotte(in 1902) and although a male heir was still hoped for, his daughters were the darlings of the Australasian public.

Princess Marie in 1908

Princess Charlotte in 1907




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Old February 7th, 2014, 09:35 AM
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Well things have gotten a little worse for the Empire and the Federation. With two major enemies in Europe as well as a future third closer to home, the Federation will be pressed to engage its enemies. Hopefully with the Federation Corps to attack the Italians in East Africa and Egypt, and the Navy with its carriers going after German and Italian ships, subs, and raiders. Hopefully they will get the enemy before they get them.

I am drawing a blank. What does ROAIF stand for? I figure Australasian Imperial Force in part, but not sure of the rest.
Royal Overseas Australasian Infantry Force
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Old February 7th, 2014, 10:41 AM
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Royal Overseas Australasian Infantry Force
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Old February 7th, 2014, 11:12 AM
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HMAS Gorgon before refit, with statistics below after refit when she recommissioned June 1940







Displacement: 5,612 long tons (6,000 tons at deep load) Length: 310 ft
Beam: 73 ft 7 in at bulge
55 ft at main hull
Draught: 16 ft
Installed power: 6,000 ihp
Propulsion: 3 shafts, 3 Vertical triple expansion Steam engines
6 dual-fired water tube boilers with oil sprayers
Speed: 16 knots
Range: 3,100 nmi at 11 knots Complement: 305 Armament: 2 9.2 in Mk XII guns
5 4 in anti aircraft guns
5 4 2-pounder anti-aircraft guns
Armour: Belt: 3–7 in (7.6–17.8 cm)
Bulkheads: 3–4 in (7.6–10.2 cm)
Turrets: 8 in (20 cm)
Conning Tower: 8 in (20 cm)
Deck: 1–2.5 in (2.5–6.4 cm)

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Old February 7th, 2014, 02:46 PM
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With the POD clearly being before 1900 shouldn't this be in the 'Before 1900' forum?
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Old February 7th, 2014, 05:23 PM
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Just curious, is the Heir to the Australasian Throne called the
Prince of New South Wales?
How about "Prince of the Southern Seas"
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Old February 7th, 2014, 06:17 PM
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With the POD clearly being before 1900 shouldn't this be in the 'Before 1900' forum?
Perhaps, but the real area of effect is World War 2, particularly the Pacific Theatre.

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1903 Australasian Federal Election

House of Representatives

Party/Seats
Free Trade Party 25
Federal Labour Party 24
Protectionist Party 21
Liberals 19
Independents/Other 2
Total 91
Protectionist/Liberals 40
Free Trade Party 25

Senate

Party/Seats
Free Trade Party 13
Federal Labour Party 15
Protectionist Party 8
Liberal Party 16
Revenue Tariff Party 1
Independent 1
Total 54

1903-7 was time of political uncertainty for Australasia, no party having a clear majority in the House. Richard Seddon resumed as Prime Minister initially, needing both the support of the Protectionists and the Federal Labour Party, newly formed in 1902 from the disparate Labour State based elements.
Seddon did not have a majority in either House, and he held office only by courtesy of the Labour Party, which insisted on legislation more radical than he was willing to accept, particularly in relation to arbitration and industrial relations. In April 1904 he was forced to resign. Prince Cristian then invited George Reid, the Free Trade Party leader to form government, but he refused and the choice fell on Labour's Chris Watson, who became Australasia's fourth Prime Minister. However, Chris Watson himself was to resign, himself five months later with the defeat of his Conciliation and Arbitration Bill, ironically passed with the amendments Watson had wanted by the new Prime Minister, George Reid, who had accepted a commission after Watson resigned. Twelve months later Reid, also dogged by a lack of a parliamentary majority also resigned, being replaced by Protectionist Party Leader Alfred Deakin.

Never the less, a great deal of legislation and happenings occurred during this time frame.
Much legislation giving shape to the Commonwealth during its first decade, including bills to create an Australasian currency. The Copyright Act was passed in 1905, as was the Australasian Navy act, the Bureau of Census and Statistics was established in 1906, as was the Bureau of Meteorology and the Quarantine Act was passed in 1907. In
December 1906 Deakin introduced the first bill to establish compulsory military service, which was also strongly supported by Labor's Watson and Billy Hughes.

In regards to overseas, Australasia continued to expand, 1906 seeing the Gilbert and Ellice Islands, already administered from Fiji, annexed as an territory, as was Tokelau. The biggest change, however, was the purchase of New Caledonia from France. The British had abrogated their claims on the island chain some time ago to Australasia and ongoing discussions between France and Melbourne in regards to the islands had swung back and forth, with a condominium to administer the islands even being proposed. Deakin put that Australasia would surrender all interests in the chain in favour of France, in return for the transfer to Australasian authority of the New Caledonian Island chain, currently being used by France as a penal colony but this being due to close at the end of 1906. Criticized at the time as acquiring a "pestiferous, disease ridden land of squalor and misery", as the native population had declined by half in the last 30 years, it was eventually realised to be a wise move. Australasia would also provide a compensation payment to France of 2 million pounds in gold.

Thus, on 1.1.1907, Australasia had expanded to:
States:
Victoria
New South Wales
Tasmania
North New Zealand
South New Zealand
South Australia
Fiji
Western Australia
Queensland

Protectorates:
Tonga

Colonies
Papua
Solomon Islands

Territories:
Cook Islands
New Caledonia
Northern Territory

External Territories:
Niue
Tokelau
Gilbert and Ellice Islands

Finally, the last thorny issue to be resolved was the creation of hereditary titles within Australasia. This had arisen during the Watson government with many against the creation of a "Bunyip Aristocracy" to quote the fiery orator and character King O'Malley. A bill to codify titles in Australasia was passed. The only hereditary, inherited titles that would be given within Australasia would be those allocated to the direct children of the monarch. Two classes of titles were created, baronets which would be life peers only, their titles becoming extinct upon their death and below that knighthoods had been retained for those who offered meritorious service to the country as a whole.


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Old February 7th, 2014, 08:21 PM
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First Flagship of the Australasian Navy HMAS Zealandia(her sister HMAS Australia is identical) lying off Sydney in 1906

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Old February 7th, 2014, 08:46 PM
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Royal Overseas Australasian Infantry Force
Thank you. Makes sense to me now.
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Old February 7th, 2014, 08:53 PM
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More interesting background. If the children of a monarch have kids of their own then those grandchildren would have no title at all or do they a courtesy title?
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More interesting background. If the children of a monarch have kids of their own then those grandchildren would have no title at all or do they a courtesy title?
Titles would carry on through the oldest male child(or female in lieu at this time{no equality of the sexes in 1908). Children of a titled person courtesy title of "Lord or Lady".
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Old February 7th, 2014, 10:07 PM
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Titles would carry on through the oldest male child(or female in lieu at this time{no equality of the sexes in 1908). Children of a titled person courtesy title of "Lord or Lady".
Ok so grandkids of a Monarch get Lord/Lady and great grandkids are bugger off?

Might be funny if a Grandaughter marries a higher noble than Mommy or Uncle/Auntie.
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Old February 8th, 2014, 01:43 AM
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1945 7 December 1940

Queen Alice lay back in a most unqueenly pose on the large settee in the State Blue Drawing Room in Domain Palace and stared at the ceiling. She was tired, grindingly tired. The War Council Meeting had broken up after seven hours and a number of acrimonious exchanges only 45 minutes ago. The UAP had contributed three members to the cabinet but both Curtain and Forde on one side and Menzies on the other clearly rubbed each other up the wrong way.

The main bone of contention was clear. Adam Hamilton, Menzies and Billy Hughes had been invited to attend war cabinet meetings, even whilst in opposition. The war cabinet itself consisted of, beside herself and the opposition observers:


  • John Curtin (Prime Minister)
  • Peter Fraser (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defense)
  • Frank Forde (Minister for Army)
  • Ben Chifley (Treasurer)
  • Doc Evatt (Attorney General and Minister for External Affairs)
  • Jack Beasley (Minister for Supply)
  • Norman Makin (Minister for Navy and Minister for Munitions)
  • Arthur Drakeford (Minister for Air)
  • Clarence Beeby (Minister for Interior)
There had been regular clashes between Menzies and other concerning the British defense of Singapore. The Pacific was drifting towards war, there was no denying the fact. Government ministers were critical of the build up of British forces in Singapore,or lack thereof.

In her opinion they were both right and wrong. Right that Singapore was woefully under protected. Wrong in the fact that Britain was probably doing all it could. It would be up to Australasia to take up the burden, that seemed clear.

On top of that her army was about to see action for the first time in the war, with the kick off of Operation Compass in North Africa. Both the Air Force and Navy had already made their contributions. The Air Force had contributed 5 squadrons to the Battle of Britain and the invasion threat there at least seemed to have been over. HMAS Wellington and Christchurch had struck at Taranto in conjunction with RN forces on the night 11-12 November, sinking three battleships and damaging another, as well as two heavy cruisers.

Back in July HMAS Sydney and Launceston had caught and sunk two Italian light cruisers, the Bartolomeo Colleoni and Bande Nere.

I regards to the army, both 1st and 2nd Corps were now in Egypt, Blamey as Army Commander and Laverack and Freyberg as the Corps Commanders. 5th Division had been fully raised. Singapore was the destination determined by the government and she fully approved. Plans to raise had armoured division had been scraped in favour of creation of an independent armoured brigade. 22 Sentinel Tanks had so far been produced and posted to the Brigade. When fully equipped it would have 65 tanks, 72 universal carriers and 20 Dingo armoured cars.

The Air Force had five squadrons operating in the UK, but also there were t
wo squadrons of Wellingtons, three of Ansons and three of He 112's in Egypt. On the home front the first squadron had been equipped with the new He100 and two more with He111's. A squadron was also reequipping with the new CAC Boomerang.

The Navy had two CVL's, one heavy and three light cruisers, plus six destroyers in the Mediterranean. It's total strength was now 3 CVL's, 2 CA's, 7 CL's, 1 monitor, 15 DD's, 4 sloops, 5 frigates, 8 corvettes, 10 minesweepers, 3 armed merchant cruisers and 9 submarines. Two modern destroyers, 18 corvettes were building and 2 aircraft carriers were converting from liners. The navy was also looking to convert the seaplane carrier Albatross and the small captured Italian liner Remo to small training carriers.

It had been a long day and she still had to see her three children since breakfast. Thanks heavens that she could rely on her sister. "Auntie Char" loved spending time with them.

She had spent the morning with those old time political rivals "Billy" Hughes, going over preparation on an official history of the first Parliaments. Plenty of fun there at least, just watching the banter fly back and forwards. Of course, she had known both men well since she was a girl, "Billy" using to slip her sweets when Prime Minister when her father was not looking. "King" had chipped him about being a member of just about every party that had been in parliament. "Not the Country Party", she had replied.
"Not the Country Party!" "No," said Hughes "I had to draw the line somewhere." He was a sharp stick still, and funny.

After he had left, she had finally inveigled "King" O'Malley to confirm what she had always suspected. That he was not, in fact, at all, a British subject, but a born and bred American who should never have been elected to Parliament in the first place, seemingly being born in Kansas. Well he had made a great contribution, particularly in starting the Commonwealth Bank. It would be a secret that could be kept for a few more years at least. "The King" was 86 and did not need that sort of ruckus at his age.

What a day. Deep down she missed her own papa. How would he have coped with this blasted war if he had not died in 1937 two years before it started.

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Old February 8th, 2014, 01:53 AM
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How about "Prince of the Southern Seas"
Nice ring to it
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Old February 8th, 2014, 02:17 AM
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Old February 8th, 2014, 02:22 AM
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Old February 8th, 2014, 02:26 AM
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Old February 8th, 2014, 03:13 AM
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One niggle, from some earlier pictures that you posted the Boomerang in this t/l is the same as the one on the t/l. As I understood it the Boomerang was a make do aircraft, pretty much that's the best we can do we right now and its better than nothing. However in this t/l there is better to pick from and then you have to surely add in the experience already gained in aircraft design and manufacture.
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Old February 8th, 2014, 03:26 AM
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One niggle, from some earlier pictures that you posted the Boomerang in this t/l is the same as the one on the t/l. As I understood it the Boomerang was a make do aircraft, pretty much that's the best we can do we right now and its better than nothing. However in this t/l there is better to pick from and then you have to surely add in the experience already gained in aircraft design and manufacture.
That is very true, but what it was really was an emergency lash up around the Twin wasp engine, which CAC had a licence to produce and numbers of were avaiable. In this timeline, with not enough Merlin engines being produced, it still serves a purpose, but will probably be manufactured in less numbers as full production of He 100 and later types take over.
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