alternate Soviet flag

vital.peacekeeper

The first suggestion for Soviet flag was that it will be green, but later it was decided that it will be red (since socialists movement have been using red flags before).
What I want to know (and find it quite interesting) is, how would have adoptation of green instead of red affect other socialistic flags republics (eastern bloc countries, etc.).
Have fun!
 
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Lascupa0788

Well, here is some good old fashioned Soviet Imagery- as it could have been.

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Superman

Lascupa0788 said:
Well, here is some good old fashioned Soviet Imagery- as it could have been.
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No offense, but I have a hard time taking that flag seriously. The Soviets made the right choice in choosing a red flag instead of green.
 
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Alex Richards

Alex Richards

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Superman said:
N offense, but I have a hard time taking that flag seriously. The Soviets made the right choice in choosing a red flag instead of green.
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But really, it's only because the Soviets chose Red that you're thinking that. Consider that Red was far more ubiquitous before WWII as a British symbol- the red Ensign- so if the Soviets chose to embrace Green it's certainly feasible that it would end up with the same effect as the red of OTL.

Though I agree, that particular green is a little dark. Something a bit brighter like the Green from the Irish flag perhaps?
 

Lascupa0788

I just used the green off of some minor OTL communist party's flag, and the symbolry of the Hammer and Plough with Sword- which where considered separately before the Hammer and Sickle was settled upon.
 

KN1

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't red always been somewhat of a special/significant color in Russian culture?
 

autonomousoblast

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To make the colour of socialism/communism green you'd have to change the colours used by Communards during the Fourth French Revolution, IIRC that's what Marx was inspired by to set red to be the socialist colours.
 

whitecrow

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vital.peacekeeper said:
The first suggestion for Soviet flag was that it will be green, but later it was decided that it will be red.
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Where did you hear that? It is the 1st time I hear of this.
Lascupa0788 said:
I just used the green off of some minor OTL communist party's flag, and the symbolry of the Hammer and Plough with Sword- which where considered separately before the Hammer and Sickle was settled upon.
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They were? Do you have a link or citation for this? I would be interested in reading about the proposed symbols.
 

vital.peacekeeper

I read it in newpaper.
It was about Russian revolution (the early stages). They only chose red because they wanted to show continouation from early socialistic movements.
I am planning to occupy some libraries to find more (I am sure that woman who wrote the article had good sources), but now we are talking about how it would affect other flags. ;)
 
Maponus

Maponus

Before 1954, most Soviet flags (by which I mean the flags of the constituent Republics, not the flag of the Union itself) had stylised lettering instead of the hammer and sickle.

For example:

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TheOtherSasquatch

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According to our friend Wikipedia:

The description of the first flag was given in the 1924 Soviet Constitution, accepted in the second session of the Executive Committee (CIK) of the USSR on 6 July 1923. The text of article 71 states: 'The state flag of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics consists of a red or scarlet field with states coat of arms'. It was ordered with the unusual ratio of 4:1 in proportion and consisted of a red flag with the state coat of arms in the center. However, such a flag was never mass-produced. This flag was the official flag for four months, and was replaced as the official flag by the more familiar hammer and sickle design during the third session of the CIK of the USSR on 12 November 1923.
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vital.peacekeeper

OK, as I promised. I search in library and found nothing. Then I contacted reporter that wrote the article I read to get this idea. Apparently, she misunderstood the encounter between Leon Trotsky and Nikolai Krylenko.
And sorry for my late reply, I had to take vacation.
This tread can be closed down.
Sorry, have fun and thanks.
 

KN1

I'd like to think that they'd incorporate the hammer-and-sickle into the flag in some fashion (shoot me, it's aesthetically pleasing), but the Mensheviks were far more moderate than the Bolsheviks and more likely to use "normal" Russian imagery.
 

KN1

I found this old thing while browsing through one of the map threads. I thought this, or something similar, would be decent for a menshevik russia.
 
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