WI: Soviets reverse-engineer B-52

They already have the Tu-95, which is roughly equipment. They might get a bit of knowledge about specific American equipment, the vast majority of which will be outdated in a few years' time.
Tu-95 is a turboprop. B-52 is a jet. Of course a Vietnam-era B-52 would still be a 50's era design, with some 60's tech.

(Trivia: The Tu-95 was one of the few Soviet aircraft whose NATO reporting name was used in Russia. Pilots said, "It couldn't be anything but a Bear."
 
They already have the Tu-95, which is roughly equipment. They might get a bit of knowledge about specific American equipment, the vast majority of which will be outdated in a few years' time.

I expect they'd learn the lesson, if they hadn't already, that the US learned with B29s in Korea: flying big fat subsonic buses into any airspace held by effective modern air defenses is costly. You have to control the airspace first; so I doubt you'd see them lining up against US or NATO forces.
 
Laying the pointlessness of the exercise aside, I can imagine Mikhail Gantov, a semi-psychotic English-speaking Georgian ace bomber pilot being approached by agents of the GRU suggesting that if he wants his puppy dog to live, he will infiltrate Edwards AFB, and steal a B-52.

The next big question burning in my mind is...What is the NATO reporting name for this new B-52 clone?

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Tu-95 is a turboprop. B-52 is a jet. Of course a Vietnam-era B-52 would still be a 50's era design, with some 60's tech.

(Trivia: The Tu-95 was one of the few Soviet aircraft whose NATO reporting name was used in Russia. Pilots said, "It couldn't be anything but a Bear."

The Bear is a very capable aircraft. Fastest propeller speed ever recorded was an airliner version of the Bear (more properly the Tu-114). The B-52 is less than 100 mph faster, a speed that is of little difference when flying a sub-sonic bomber against Mach 2.5 interceptors and Mach 3 SAM.

What the B-52 has that the Bear never did is/was a true non nuclear mission. This is more a matter of national tactical thought than anything to do with the aircraft themselves. The Bear could loft 33,000 pound of bombs, but it was never really even considered to fill a tactical role like the one the USAF has slotted the B-52 into so nicely.
 

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Laying the pointlessness of the exercise aside, I can imagine Mikhail Gantov, a semi-psychotic English-speaking Georgian ace bomber pilot being approached by agents of the GRU suggesting that if he wants his puppy dog to live, he will infiltrate Edwards AFB, and steal a B-52.

The next big question burning in my mind is...What is the NATO reporting name for this new B-52 clone?

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Buffalo.

Would HAVE to be.
 
Just a brief correction the Bear did have non-nuclear missions. variants were used for maritime recon and strike, as well as ASW.
 

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What the B-52 has that the Bear never did is/was a true non nuclear mission. This is more a matter of national tactical thought than anything to do with the aircraft themselves. The Bear could loft 33,000 pound of bombs, but it was never really even considered to fill a tactical role like the one the USAF has slotted the B-52 into so nicely.

They did develop it into a pretty solid MPA platform in the Tu-142, and they've used it for pretty much everything else though.

As for the Tu-114, the only thing anyone really ever had against it were it's short range compared to the IL-62, and the noise. Other than that it was fairly efficient for the period, and an excellent long-haul airliner.

The VVS and Soviet Navy wouldn't know what to do with a BUFF clone anyway. Maybe they'd use it in place of the Myasishchev M-4 as a tanker? Use it in an anti-shipping role as a bigger Tu-16?
It's not like they'd drop the Tu-22M for a subsonic design, or that the B-52 was significantly better than the Bear as a strategic bomber. And the VVS always preferred smaller types when looking for tactical bombers.
 
The Bear is a very capable aircraft. Fastest propeller speed ever recorded was an airliner version of the Bear (more properly the Tu-114). The B-52 is less than 100 mph faster, a speed that is of little difference when flying a sub-sonic bomber against Mach 2.5 interceptors and Mach 3 SAM.

What the B-52 has that the Bear never did is/was a true non nuclear mission. This is more a matter of national tactical thought than anything to do with the aircraft themselves. The Bear could loft 33,000 pound of bombs, but it was never really even considered to fill a tactical role like the one the USAF has slotted the B-52 into so nicely.

33000 lbs is comparable with the V-Bombers as a conventional load

the Vulcan could carry 21000lbs as could the Valiant

the Victor has a 35000lbs conventional bomb load due to not being space limited in the way the other 2 were
 
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