The NEW Our TimeLine Maps Thread!

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by Nekromans

The same map you used for Ridculously Detailed Internal Borders (Tee Emm).

Sounds like da Europe 2008 map that I did a few months back. Don't you mean you want an 1854 Europe map?

[Nekromans]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

Sounds like da Europe 2008 map that I did a few months back. Don't you mean you want an 1854 Europe map?

Yes, but on that template.

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by Nekromans

Yes, but on that template.

Kewl, I will work on that, and post the map when finished.

[rcduggan]

Originally Posted by Thande

I believe Qazaq already held that Guinness record, certainly in the OTL Map Stakes.

Well, now he is also Great King of Kings of the OTL map thread.

[Mr. Evangelical]

Does anyone have a World Map during 1274 that I can edit in MS Paint? I need one for a map.

[euio]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

Here's da map again w/ the rump crusader states added in the Levant, whose majority of it's territory was under the Ayyubids.

The HRE extended to Prussia in 1200. It also had Silesia.

[euio]

Originally Posted by rcduggan

Well, now he is also Great King of Kings of the OTL map thread.

His title is contested.

[euio]

Now with 50% more HREishness!

[Mr. Evangelical]

Can anyone do my Mongol Empire request please? I'm being ignored.

[euio]

Originally Posted by Mr. Neoconservative

Can anyone do my Mongol Empire request please? I'm being ignored.

I didn't see it.

What must be done?

[Mr. Evangelical]

I need a world map view of like 1260 or 1274, When The Mongol Empire was at its greatest extent.

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by euio

The HRE extended to Prussia in 1200. It also had Silesia.

Not according to most maps that show Europe in 1200, and yes that includes the AD1200 Europe map in Euroatlas, which I have based much of my map from.

[euio]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

Not according to most maps that show Europe in 1200, and yes that includes the AD1200 Europe map in Euroatlas, which I have based much of my map from.

Every Europe map I have seen of 1200 (except for Euratlas) shows the HRE extending to Prussia and Silesia.

You also must take into account that Euratlas shows de facto independent HRE territories as independent.

[Mr. Evangelical]

Too Bad I can't use the 1200 Map for my Mongol Empire World Map. I was going to edit more than one nation.

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by euio

Every Europe map I have seen of 1200 (except for Euratlas) shows the HRE extending to Prussia and Silesia.

You also must take into account that Euratlas shows de facto independent HRE territories as independent.

I realize that, and if you look at the map closer, you will have seen that I have included the HRE color in outline in the 'independent' HRE territories, but I still stand by what I say, the HRE didn't extend to Silesia, Pomerania, and Prussia. Denmark was actually in the progress of conquering the Baltic coasts of present day Germany and Poland, and actually captured Lubeck in 1202, thus cutting off the HRE's access to the Baltic. My map shows the situation before Lubeck was captured by Denmark. However in the mid 1200s, the HRE managed to push the Danes out of the region as German settlement moved eastward across the region, and towards the Baltics. As for Silesia, it became a vassal to the HRE, in 1163, but not part of the HRE until the late 1200s. Pomerania was a German fief in 1181, and became part of the HRE in the early 1200s, after the time of my map. BTW, your modification still looks kewl, kind of an earlier and more agressive HRE eastward expansion scenario.

[Looseheadprop]

in the 1200's map what is the green region? it doesnt seem to control any major cities, so i a bit stumped at trying to figure it out

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Looseheadprop

in the 1200's map what is the green region? it doesnt seem to control any major cities, so i a bit stumped at trying to figure it out

It is areas that arr not/sparsely populated, and have not advanced into a true nation yet; peoples in those areas tend to be primtive nomads or tribes and the like.

[euio]

Originally Posted by Qazaq2007

I realize that, and if you look at the map closer, you will have seen that I have included the HRE color in outline in the 'independent' HRE territories, but I still stand by what I say, the HRE didn't extend to Silesia, Pomerania, and Prussia. Denmark was actually in the progress of conquering the Baltic coasts of present day Germany and Poland, and actually captured Lubeck in 1202, thus cutting off the HRE's access to the Baltic. My map shows the situation before Lubeck was captured by Denmark. However in the mid 1200s, the HRE managed to push the Danes out of the region as German settlement moved eastward across the region, and towards the Baltics. As for Silesia, it became a vassal to the HRE, in 1163, but not part of the HRE until the late 1200s. Pomerania was a German fief in 1181, and became part of the HRE in the early 1200s, after the time of my map. BTW, your modification still looks kewl, kind of an earlier and more agressive HRE eastward expansion scenario.

I believe Silesia and Pommerania had about the same staus of Bohemia, and should be shown as such. The inside of Silesia can be coloured with a shade of the Polish colour, but I don't know about Pommerania.

You're probably right, considering a large amount of my huistorical knowledge comes solely from maps (a very bad way to learn history).

[Qazaq2007]

Originally Posted by euio

I believe Silesia and Pommerania had about the same staus of Bohemia, and should be shown as such. The inside of Silesia can be coloured with a shade of the Polish colour, but I don't know about Pommerania.

You're probably right, considering a large amount of my huistorical knowledge comes solely from maps (a very bad way to learn history).

I can relate to that, trying to learn history only from maps, very bad move. Silesia according to my historical atlases was always shown as lying outside the HRE border until about the late 1200s or so (need to research this more to be sure). Maps have a way of oversimplifying the actual on the ground reality, just by their design no matter how complex you want the map to be, and what you are trying to illustrate w/ the map.

[Qazaq2007]

Here's the map w/ Silesia outlined in HRE light grey, but outside the HRE, as a fief, but not part of the HRE, yet.