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Old November 21st, 2007, 09:16 AM
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Here's my version of the 1812 Europe map w/o internal admin borders, for those who would rather use a less cluttered map. The map shows Europe in late 1812 when Bessarabia was annexed by Russia. The Russian occupied parts of the Ottoman Empire, Moldavia and Wallachia are shown in the Russian burnt orange color w/o the black border shown along the Danube. I did not show outline coloring in Ottoman dark green in Algiers (Algeria), for the Ottomans had no control over Algiers after 1710. Enjoy.
Ooh. Much better than mine.

But weren't Wallachia and Moldavia independent and only under Ottoman suzerainity?
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Old November 21st, 2007, 09:50 AM
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Could I have a world map of 1878, please?
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Old November 21st, 2007, 10:10 AM
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Could I have a world map of 1878, please?
I'll see what I can do.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 10:59 AM
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Here you go, Analytical Engine.

There might be a few errors, as I don't know the status of Serbia or Egypt.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:04 AM
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Here you go, Analytical Engine.

There might be a few errors, as I don't know the status of Serbia or Egypt.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:05 AM
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Here you go, Analytical Engine.

There might be a few errors, as I don't know the status of Serbia or Egypt.
Should there be still the Emirate of Bukhara in Central Asia ? At least as a Russian vassal or something...
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:12 AM
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Here you go, Analytical Engine.

There might be a few errors, as I don't know the status of Serbia or Egypt.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:27 AM
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Here you go, Analytical Engine.

There might be a few errors, as I don't know the status of Serbia or Egypt.
Thanks. I wanted a pre-San Stefano map anyway.

Egypt officially returned under Anglo-French "dual control" in 1879, according to wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...y#Dual_control

P.S., why is Veneto still a part of the Habsuburg realms? It was annexed by Italy in 1866.
Also, Latium was annexed by Italy in 1870.

P.P.S. Tunisia should be shown as an Ottoman Vassal.

P.P.P.S. Burma was still independent untill 1886, as I recal. It was more like a Chinese tributary state until then.

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Should there be still the Emirate of Bukhara in Central Asia ? At least as a Russian vassal or something...
Both the Emirates of Bukhara and Khiva were Russian vassals untill 1920.

Bukhara came under Russian suzerainity in 1876, and Khiva in 1873.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 01:05 PM
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Here you go, Analytical Engine.

There might be a few errors, as I don't know the status of Serbia or Egypt.
What's up with the Danish/German border?
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Old November 21st, 2007, 05:30 PM
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Ooh. Much better than mine.

But weren't Wallachia and Moldavia independent and only under Ottoman suzerainity?
Actually Wallachia and Moldavia were under Russian occupation until the 1812 Treaty of Bucharest, which ended the 1806-12 Russo-Turkish war. After the Treaty of Bucharest on 28 May 1812, the Russian occupation of Wallachia and Moldavia was ended, and Ottoman rule was restored, and Bessarabia was annexed by the Russian Empire. This corrected map does show the situation after the Bucharest Treaty. BTW, Thanks, for the compliments on my map, for I really worked hard on it.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 05:46 PM
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What's up with the Danish/German border?
Its the pre-1864 border set on a post-1864 map...
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Old November 21st, 2007, 05:53 PM
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Here you go, Analytical Engine.

There might be a few errors, as I don't know the status of Serbia or Egypt.
Serbia gained independence in 1878. Egypt was Ottoman, until British occupation began in 1882. (I know some one posted that Egypt came under Anglo-French control in 1879, according to what was read on wikipedia, but then again wikipedia is not exactly a reliable source.)
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 08:02 AM
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Serbia gained independence in 1878. Egypt was Ottoman, until British occupation began in 1882.
Serbia gained independence following the Congress of Berlin (June-July 1878).

Besides, I said I wanted a pre-Treaty of San Stefano map, anyway.

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(I know some one posted that Egypt came under Anglo-French control in 1879, according to what was read on wikipedia, but then again wikipedia is not exactly a reliable source.)
That would be me.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 03:20 AM
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Actually Bukhara and Khiva became People's Soviet Republics after the Bolshevik Revolution, until they were abolished in 1921. Khiva was known as the Khorezm People's Soviet Republic. Here's a map to back up my statement. Q
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Old November 24th, 2007, 09:55 AM
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Actually Bukhara and Khiva became People's Soviet Republics after the Bolshevik Revolution, until they were abolished in 1921. Khiva was known as the Khorezm People's Soviet Republic. Here's a map to back up my statement. Q
D'oh! What I meant was that they still existed untill 1921.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 10:16 AM
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And a map of Europe on August 31st, 1939, just prior to the outbreak of WW2:
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Old November 24th, 2007, 11:17 AM
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Russian Iran???
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Old November 24th, 2007, 11:26 AM
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Russian Iran???
YES...A slight POD.....
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Old November 24th, 2007, 04:54 PM
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Also Slovakia wasn't German occupied, though it was pretty much puppetised.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 10:19 PM
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Also Slovakia wasn't German occupied, though it was pretty much puppetised.
Slovakia's government was a puppet government under Tiszo. Germany did have troops stationed on Slovak territory, but not in an occupation role. Germans troops were using Slovak territory as a springboard for the invasion of Poland, right along with troops in Pomerania, and East Prussia, to put the drop on Warsaw in a large pincers movement.
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