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Old August 1st, 2007, 05:49 PM
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I said, I am just using the labels that Centennia gives those lands. Don't shoot the messenger.
Is that why in the 1789 map, most of the German states are labeled "Church lands"?
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Old August 1st, 2007, 06:01 PM
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Is that why in the 1789 map, most of the German states are labeled "Church lands"?
Yes, I don't know what the transition was. Ask a HRE expert.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 04:17 AM
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All the ecclesiastical (church) states were secularized by 1803, under the Reichsdeputationshauptschluss by the German Reichstag which was bounded by Russian/French plans for territorial compensation.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 09:46 AM
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All the ecclesiastical (church) states were secularized by 1803, under the Reichsdeputationshauptschluss by the German Reichstag which was bounded by Russian/French plans for territorial compensation.
Yes but this map is 1631.

For some reason they are identified as church lands on the 1789 map but not the 1631.
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Old August 3rd, 2007, 03:22 AM
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I was aware the map was showing Europe in 1631, I was just responding to your comment about you not knowing what the transition was in reference to the secularization of the Church Lands within the HRE. Q
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Old August 5th, 2007, 02:45 AM
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Old August 5th, 2007, 02:49 AM
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I suggest using the Belgium colour for Burgundy.
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Old August 5th, 2007, 02:53 AM
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I thought that was implied, considering its location.
But, yes, in maps, it should be. It would make most sense.
And for Lotharingia/Lorraine, too, before Burgundy got split from it.

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Old August 6th, 2007, 02:16 AM
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Old August 6th, 2007, 09:11 AM
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Why does Korea have a colour
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Old August 6th, 2007, 09:54 AM
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Why does Korea have a colour
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Old August 6th, 2007, 12:54 PM
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Why does Korea have a colour
For maybe maps in the middle of the Korean War when the Koreans were on the offensive?
Or show it as an outline for when the Korean kingdom was a protectorate of China? Or when it was under US influence?
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Old August 6th, 2007, 02:28 PM
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China and Tunis a similar to the point of confusion. Plus, what happens in a tl with an independent Ireland and Scotland?
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Old August 6th, 2007, 02:34 PM
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For maybe maps in the middle of the Korean War when the Koreans were on the offensive?
Or show it as an outline for when the Korean kingdom was a protectorate of China? Or when it was under US influence?
Oh I didn't think of that
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Old August 6th, 2007, 04:59 PM
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China and Tunis a similar to the point of confusion. Plus, what happens in a tl with an independent Ireland and Scotland?
I didn't make the colors, just the map
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Old August 6th, 2007, 05:01 PM
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Only use the Carthage colour for Carthage. Using it for Tunisia makes it seem to be part of China.
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Old August 6th, 2007, 05:16 PM
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Plus, the map is only supposed to show Major/Colonial powers in color. Why are nations like Serbia and the Congo shown?
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Old August 6th, 2007, 05:21 PM
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Plus, the map is only supposed to show Major/Colonial powers in color. Why are nations like Serbia and the Congo shown?
Hey! I just noticed Congo! When did it get a colour?!?! It doesn't make any sense!!!

And why is Rumania shown as a Swedish possesion?

And what's that Peru colour that I've never seen in the key?!

Poland is the wrong colour too.
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Old August 6th, 2007, 05:24 PM
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I thought that was implied, considering its location.
But, yes, in maps, it should be. It would make most sense.
And for Lotharingia/Lorraine, too, before Burgundy got split from it.
Well in the 1400 map, the Carthage colour was used for it.
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Old August 6th, 2007, 09:13 PM
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Hey! I just noticed Congo! When did it get a colour?!?! It doesn't make any sense!!!
Yes it does. Sometimes, the DRC suffered rebellions- those spaces can be displayed as white with the Congo Blue outline.
Other times, they influenced nearby states, like Rwanda or Burundi.

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And why is Rumania shown as a Swedish possesion?
They're slightly different colours. Slightly.

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And what's that Peru colour that I've never seen in the key?!
Someone else used it, I forget who, and I added it to my UCS update.

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Plus, what happens in a tl with an independent Ireland and Scotland?
Mapmaker's discretion.

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Why are nations like Serbia
It would have been a wasted colour to have it ONLY for the Byzantines.

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and the Congo shown?
You could use it to also indicate the Kingdom of Kongo in pre-colonial Central Africa. Just like you could use the Mali / Ghana colour to indicate the Mali Empire and Ghana Empire in pre-colonial West Africa.

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China and Tunis a similar to the point of confusion.
Not really. I can tell the difference, and I'm friggin' colourblind.
Tunis/Carthage is more pastel and pale in tone.

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