Tiger Tiger burning Bright..

sharlin

Banned
The last of the so called 'Big Cats' was now getting long in the tooth. HMS Tiger commissioned just before the Great War in 1916 was laid down as the last coal fired warship for the Royal Navy. Eschewing the new fangled triple turrets for the new Queen Elizabeth class the Tiger mounted 8 of the reliable and powerful 13.5 inch guns in turrets fore and aft.

Taking part in the Battle of Gibraltar as well as taking part in hunts for French surface raiders and blockade runners the Tiger had lead an eventful life before being dock bound in 1918 after running afoul of the French Battlecruiser Marshal Ney and her escorts whilst enforcing the blockade.

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Both ships had battered each other for the better part of a hour in a stand up gunnery duel, neither had scored the killing blow and the Marshal Ney had staggered into Brest equally shot up and in dire need of repairs.

With the end of the war in 1919 the Tiger was one of the few coal fired ships retained in active service, all be it in secondary roles such as stationary training ship and gunnery training. Soldiering on through the 20's and the financial crisis that swept the globe the Tiger found herself acting as a replacement when members of the Battlecruiser Squadron went into refit the Tiger was hauled out of training duty to show the flag and patrol the waters of the Empire as well as the terbulent waters of the Med where English warships eyed Franco-Italian ones warily.

In 1931 the Tiger was refitted for what was suppose to be her last refit. Finally her engines were converted into oil firing, her old 6-inch casemate guns were removed and their positions plated over and some of the light dual 4 inch guns were shipped to act as anti-destroyer and anti-aircraft armament to defend her against the now recognised air-born threat.

Plodding up and down the English coast on training missions, helping the fleet sink the last of the old pre-war dreadnoughts as their replacements were built the Tiger would face the same fate, the be expended as a target or cut up for scrap if it was not for the rise of French militarism in 1930. Promising a return of France's honour the new National Council refused to pay any more of the indemnities owed from the Treaty of Oslo.

Even though the peace had been seen as fair by all parties involved it was now viewed as the reason for the collapse of the French econimy which pointedly ignored the financial collapse of 1924 which affected the whole planet. Crushing inflation caused a near famine in the more rural regions of France still recovering from the War as the poor could barely afford food and the replaced Government was 'forced' to ask Britain for meat and grain to help feed the populace.

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The National Council did get the country working once more, factories were re-opened, great roads were constructed and the armed forces started to grow. Whilst the messages coming from the Germans were less than friendly the British, still recovering from the effect of the Great Depression at home and in the Empire as well as trying to fund social programs and feeling the cost of the bloody war in terms of lives lost opted to try and work with the new government.

Following their trading and military partner the Germans also tried reproachment with France whilst the French started reforming their old alliances, the Tsar of Russia, still thankful of French support in helping his father put down the Workers uprising which saw Lenin and his clique publicly hung in St Petersberg was receptive as was cash strapped Italy and its leader Benito Mussolini.

Slowly things went from bad to worse on the international scene and it was recognised that reproachment and talk simply was not going to work. The three defeated nations still burned at their defeat and it was felt it was time to settle accounts.
Anglo-German re-armament started in 1936, a year later than France and once again the dockyards of Great Britain seethed with work as ships were refitted and rebuilt and new classes laid down whilst the Tiger, now saved from the breakers yard of the guns of her fleet was called up again to serve on the front lines but her age made her no longer a front line unit. Unable to replace her 13.5 inch guns with anything larger without major and expensive work the Tiger was assigned to convoy duty in the event of war whilst the new ships got the lions share of the glory of hunting down the enemy.

The civil war in Spain, now viewed as a war by proxy between the English and the French is often regarded as the moment the fuse leading towards war was light. The Monarchists, supported by the English and Germans were supplied by the sea whilst the French supported Republicans could get support right over the border and with the defeat of the Monarchists in 1938 the English became painfully aware of the vulnerability of the famous Rock of Gibraltar and rushed to fortify that whilst the old pre-war forts along the channel were re-armed with 12 and 13.5 inch guns held in storage.

That was three years ago and Europe once more blazed with War. French troops had invaded and conquered Belgium and the Netherlands and there was heavy fighting along the German and French border whilst Italian troops threatened Malta and British holdings in Egypt.

And of course, at sea the Marine Nationale was on the hunt for British merchant ships. Right in the same region the Tiger was sailing waiting to meet an outbound convoy from Liverpool that was sailing to Halifax.

MN Glorie.

Brand new, fast and well armed and an ideal commerce raider Glorie was the lead ship of her class and apart from the Napoleon Class battleship still under construction at St Nazaire was the most modern ship afloat in the Marine Nationale. With her eight 14 inch guns she packed a wallop and could move at 33 knots. With her were her two escorts who would form their own raiding group the large cruiser Triomphant and the smaller D'Estrees, the former armed with ten 9.4 inch guns the latter with twelve 6.4 inch weapons. Already the trio were separating, more than thirty miles apart now when smoke was spotted from the foretop of the Glorie.

"Excellent, our first catch of the day, plot an intercept course and full speed if you please."

"Aye aye Captain."

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1* HMS Tiger as a gunnery training ship prior to her refit.
2* The Tiger at the dockyards undergoing her refit to turn her into a oil fired warship.
3* MN Glorie as designed. Lead ship of a class of new Battlecruisers, again continuing the French love of the quadruple turret
4* MN D'Estrees as designed, a large and capable cruiser
 
Cool what was this a sequel to? Also love the French angle, I assume they'll be the wrong side of WWII.
 
Nice to see another installment to this TL, & like that a modernized Tiger is playing a role- for some reason, I've had a bit of a soft spot for that ship, & IIRC, a modernized Tiger in WW2 used to be one of the more common AH scenarios tossed around over at NavWeaps about 6 or so years ago.

Though sounds like the old girl has run into a rather sticky situation, running up against a new battlecruiser & a couple powerful cruisers (who themselves are in for quite a nasty little surprise)- hope the title isn't a bit of literal foreshadowing :eek:

A question as well- are the 14" guns on Glorie a development of TTL, as IIRC, that was a caliber that the French never used- they had 13", 13.4", & 15" guns at various times, & the cruisers have traditional French calibers as well?
 

sharlin

Banned
The 14 inch guns are basically the french boring out their 13.5s like the Italians did in OTL to get their 12.6s, probably not ideal but it will suffice to give these ships greater firepower.
 
I immensely enjoyed Franco-Japanese war and I am looking forward to see this go on forth. Go go Sharlin.
 

sharlin

Banned
Catch a Tiger by the tail...

Sir the wizards in the RDF are reporting a contact, speed reported to be high and on an intercept course."

"Radio room?"


"No reports from the
Dauntless or Vindictive Sir, the escorts are still forming up."

Captain Sefastsson was one of the older officers to be in command of a capital ship, in truth if it wasn't for the war he would have been paid off to the RNVR or acting as a Commodore for a convoy taking troops to Canada to deal with the uprising in the Quebec region. But it was not to be. As a boy he'd served on the
Tiger off Gibraltar, a hard won victory that had forced the Italian fleet back to the Med and away from French support, the fear that the French, Italians and Russians would link up their fleets to challenge the Grand Fleet never crystallising as more than a threat due to that victory.
The Italians had fought hard their great flagship the Vittoria turning the Hawkins into a funeral pyre that marked the death of over six hundred men whilst their older ships traded blows with the best of the Royal Navy.

Now decades later he was on the
Tiger's bridge as her commanding officer, he'd always liked the ship, a good sea boat with little vibration at full speed and a good shot with her 13.5's and of course she was quite the looker, a popular subject for paintings and postcards.

Now at 25 years of age the
Tiger was past her prime and long in the tooth as the joke went, but she still was a warship of His Majesty's fleet and she would do her duty, as would her crew.

"Sound action stations, load the guns with AP, close with the contact, I want visual identification before we fire. Signals, contact Admiral Burnside on the
Saint George tell him we are going to intercept a possible raider and give our location."

The alert claxon blared as the ship's crew sprang to action, watertight doors were closed, damage control teams assembled and the huge 13.5 inch rifles loaded with rounds ready to fire. If it turned out to be a friendly ship with its radio on the fritz then the
Tiger would get an impromptu target shoot in as unloading a naval gun was a literal nightmare and the easiest way to unload them was by simply firing the damn things.

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"Sir, all turrets manned and ready the ship is at action stations, engineering has the steam built for flank speed when you need it, Mr Anderson said the old girl is ready to stretch her legs again."


"Send the cheeky scoundrel my regards and to you all, two minutes thirty three seconds to get to action stations, damn fine work."


"Sir, a report from RDF, target is definitely on an intercept course, speed estimated at 30 knots."


"Sir! Lookouts report smoke on the horizon bearing 289!"


High up in the
Tigers fighting top the gunnery team sat in their rotating cupola as the whole rangefinder slewed round to the location of the contact. The 30 foot wide range finder was joined by dozens of binoculars.

"Definitely a Warship, one turret forwards...inform the Captain it appears to be one of the new
Glorie class ships."

That got a few looks, the
Glorie's were rumoured to be bloody good ships, 14 inch guns and a thick 10 inch belt and were much more modern than the old Tiger.

"Range?"


"32000 yards Sir, we can take a shot but.."


"Hold your horses guns, wait for it to drop to twenty four thousand and then we'll shoot. Signals, let the
George know what we've encountered and signal 'am engaging the enemy'.

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Glorie Speed 32 knots.

"Sir target is a British
Tiger class battlecruiser, her turrets are turning to face us and she is on a course to intercept."

"Very good, signal the
Triopmphant and D'Estrees, I want Captain Moroe to get the Triopmphant here as quick as he can, his firepower will be decisive. Signal to Brest that we have engaged a British Battlecruiser. Guns you may fire when ready."

The French battlecruiser's two quadruple turrets swung to face the
Tiger their gun barrels elevating, being fed data by the gunnery control team high up in the warships superstructure.

At 30104 yards the first gun spoke, followed half a second by the next and so on. The War of 1916-1919 had shown the strengths and weaknesses of quadruple turrets and the French had stuck with them, refining them as best they could. In the war the French ships with quad turrets had shown rather poor gunner and wide shot dispersion due to the blast of all guns going off at once would interrupt the flight of the shells, so by putting a slight delay between each barrel firing, all done mechanically of course, accuracy went up to more acceptable levels and the spread of shot or its 'dispersion' was narrowed.


HMS
Tiger speed 28.5 knots.

"At flank speed now Sir."


"Sir! Enemy has opened fire!"


"Range to target?"


"Target at 29000 yards now Sir."


"Very good, open fire!"


The firing bell sounded three times before the
Tiger shot her first rounds in anger since 1918. All eight of the huge 13.5 inch guns belched a heavy cloud of brownish smoke and a small ring of flame as they lobbed their 1400lb shells at a distant smudge on the horizon whilst their opponent flung back 1595lb rounds in return, both just as lethal as the other, both gunnery teams trying to land shells on the patch of sea where they hoped the enemy would be when their shells arrived.

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1) Ignoring the stats that's what the Tiger looks like after her refit.

2) A quadruple turret of a French Warship under construction, possibly the Glorie herself.
 
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Very nice but a bit of a continuity issue. The first post has the French BC as the Glorie and the second as the Ney.
 
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