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January 3rd, 2006, 09:39 PM
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Judging by Europe, I would say that the POD would have to be some sort of Revolutions shattering it- thus that "Germany" would be some sort of liberal realm, while the state East of it is some sort of Prussia. Though to give Prussia that much you'd have to have it gain it in the collapse of Russia, or Congress of Vienna.
Austria-Hungary fell apart- Serbia and Rumania grab pieces of it, as does Sardinia as part of Italian unification. I would say it lost Bohemia first, thus weaking it for later hits by the Balkan states that caused it to fall. Russia collapsed- Finland must never have gained the "Old Finland" region before independence, thus those areas are stuck with the remaining Russia. The central asian states are a bit strange though. British India lost some regions outlying, Bengal and something else. France never colonized Indo-China, Africa is colonies. Paraguay gained the Chaco somehow... In Korea, Japan only manages to take the south, the north remains a Kingdom?
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January 4th, 2006, 12:56 AM
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A simple ww1 POD
Russia enters on Germany's side Japan too China with the allies The war is way bloodier and most costly so the countries can't hold on to their colonies even in 1919. And that's all folks, no need for complicated explanations.
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January 4th, 2006, 01:05 AM
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January 4th, 2006, 01:08 AM
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I'm venturing a guess that Darkest90 was trying to make a point that some ATL's recently have been bordering on impossibility. I won't name names.
I don't think this challenge was serious. Last edited by Floid; January 4th, 2006 at 01:29 AM..
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January 4th, 2006, 01:58 AM
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January 4th, 2006, 02:35 AM
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January 4th, 2006, 02:57 AM
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 Also, apparently the Republic of Ulster is independant, as opposed to the Unionist south... Simon 
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January 4th, 2006, 03:00 AM
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Well it depends. This gets a whole lot easier if we can interpret those borders in Africa as administrative units of colonial empires and not independent countries.
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January 6th, 2006, 02:00 AM
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my guess is that the POD is after the polish May 3rd, 1791 constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Constitution_of_Poland) force invading poland are defeated. Poland becomes powerful under the brilliant military leadership of Tadeusz Ko?ciuszko, eventually taking the baltics and defeats russia, conquers prussia. In the early 1800s, poland invades the rest of germany, but are halted, and the alliance of german states eventually unifies to become a united germany (except for austia), breaking the old, weak Holy Roman Empire. Russia seizing the oppurnity and invades from the east the as poland is trapped in a two front war, and forcing poland into a two front war. Poland is defeat, forced to give up much of its terriotory, but as a compromise in the Congress of Berlin to ensure balance of power, new states of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, and Ukraine are created as buffer states to russia, and brandenburg is ceded to germany, but east and west prussia are kept with poland. The wars and destruction around the turn of the 19th centurty spur nationalism in europe even though balance of power is still trying to be defended. Nationalistic movements unify italy. The Ottoman empire loses power just like in OTL and the europeans decide to dig in and parition its lands. Soon all that's left is asia minor, which is overthrown by a coup and becomes the republic of turkey. Rumania, Greece, albania, syria, iraq, etc etc. are formed, and are divided into european spheres of influences.
An arms race develops, technology and industrialization as the Industrial revolution spreads in the early and mid 1800s. Increased interest is placed in africa, however, instead of colonizing it, the european country make their lands protectorates, leading to semi-autonomous rule by an african elite. By the late 1800s, the african elite is increasingly powerful, and european influence is practically gone. Decolonization also occurs in spain during this time, as south america and latin america is becoming more independent. America gets more powerful, practically the same stuff happens in OTL. In asia, india is also freed from british rule after independence movements, but conflicts between hindus and moslems divide it into India and Pakistan, which are still are war today. The western powers also try to impose their will on china, but china modernizes and resists. However, russia conquers mongolia. In 1856, Russia purchases the city of Kaliningrad from Poland for the sum of 20 ruples.
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