Gibraltar falling in 1940, then Malta, etc

All,

We are now in on the Malta discussion again. Let's broaden that a bit.

Gibraltar:
It is true that only a land based attack could make any inroads. Whatever the case, Franco was not interested (even after the German/Italian help he had received).

As far as I recall, it was the considered wisdom in Britain that Gibraltar could not be held if a land based attack was carried out.

Now: Could Axis have initiated one? landed in Spain and with Franco's tacit approvbal had gone through with a land based attack.

What would have been the consequences of Gibraltar falling to the Axis?

Imagine a time of 1940. I am not linking it to BoB or the sea creature. It is really a follow-on from Raeder's strategy of hitting Britain where it will hurt: The Med.

So, Gib gone n 1940.

Then Malta:
I think we have concluded a lot of times that Malta would not be able to defend itself in 1940 or very early 1941. So with Malta gone in 1940 as well, the North Africa and Egypt suddenly becomes very dangerous territory.

The Med as an Axis lake is now within reach? or is it?

Can we imagine the Italian navy being a bit more courageous? Not saying that the destroyer fleet weren't (they did a job).

Crete is sort of the key to Greece and Egypt. but if that is the only part left in the Med, then what?

Did it really hinge on Gib, Malta and Crete?

Ivan
 
Presuming Gibraltar can be captured and I am lead to believe this is a tough proposal, what with the single approach route, easily dominated by the fortress guns and naval artillery. The British plan was to respond immediately by capturing Canary Islands as a replacement position. The troops for this were already slated in 1940 and were held available until well into 1942.

As far as majority of supply traffic is concerned, Med has already been considered unsafe to use. It was closed except for the high priority convoys that usually got through escorted by the entire British Med Fleet. As long as British keep Suez and Alexandria, they'll be able to challenge Axis navy in the Mediterranean.

As has been pointed numerous times, Axis having the ability to bring supplies from Italy to Africa means nothing if the supplies end up stranded in Tripoli. Even given the ability to unload an unlimited number of ships in Tripoli, leaves unsolved question of getting the supplies to the front line, given the lack of infrastructure.

I don't see Crete as being a vital position in attack on Africa or as a keystone for naval supremacy in the Med. The Germans considered it dangerous for the fear of putting Allied bombers within range of Ploesti oil fields, other than that, Crete was useless.
 
All,

We are now in on the Malta discussion again. Let's broaden that a bit.

Gibraltar:
It is true that only a land based attack could make any inroads. Whatever the case, Franco was not interested (even after the German/Italian help he had received).

As far as I recall, it was the considered wisdom in Britain that Gibraltar could not be held if a land based attack was carried out.

Now: Could Axis have initiated one? landed in Spain and with Franco's tacit approvbal had gone through with a land based attack.

No. Franco couldn't give a tacit approval. Actually he would have to actively oppose the landing, thus becoming an Ally. Otherwise the Allies:
- take the Canary Islands, and Spanish Morocco (nice source of raw materials and easier springboard for Torch),
- starve Spain,
- appoint a Spanish government in exile made up of what few opponents of Franco still survived.

All extremely bad news for Franco. He's not stupid.
 
Gibraltar doesn't need to be taken, it just needs to be neutralised as a base, and this can be done simply by artillery. Unfortunately, as noted, this doesn't really get the Axis very far - almost all convoys went around the Cape anyway, and the Canaries will make a nice base to support them from. Similarly, Malta falling doesn't help unload ships in Tripoli or help transport supplies to the El Alamein line.

Even taking Suez isn't militarily crippling (although politically it could be a problem) to the UK, as the convoys are going round the Cape anyway, and there's a lot of barren desert between Suez and the Gulf oilfields. U-boats and the RM (fuel permitting!) might be able to get into the Indian Ocean, but Aden makes an effective chokepoint.

In my opinion, the Med strategy simply doesn't work, even if you can handwave away the political problems of Germany intruding into Italy's sphere of influence.
 
No. Franco couldn't give a tacit approval. Actually he would have to actively oppose the landing, thus becoming an Ally. Otherwise the Allies:
- take the Canary Islands, and Spanish Morocco (nice source of raw materials and easier springboard for Torch),
- starve Spain,
- appoint a Spanish government in exile made up of what few opponents of Franco still survived.

All extremely bad news for Franco. He's not stupid.

Only way this flies is after Battle for France. In which case there is no ALLIES, there is just the UK. Yes Franco isn't stupid if Hitler is serious, note Admiral Wilhelm Canaris was slipping Spanish info on Hitler's intentions, there is little Franco can do to stop him. The British MIGHT be able to starve Spain out before Germans knock them out but the Germans could occupy all of Spain.

In late summer of 1940 Germany looked like a Colossus. Poland, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and France have all fallen to Hitler's Germany. The clear lesson here, at this point, is no one where German troops can get to can really resist Hitler. So if Hitler is serious with the Med Option Canaris would pass this along to Franco and Spain makes the best deal they can of a bad situation. Most likely they refuse to help the Germans but don't oppose them either all the while pleading Force majeure. If Franco chooses to fight the Germans then he becomes an exile, in 1940 that looks like a very, very bad bet.

Its a coin flip as to what the British do, pushing to Spanish into active helping of the Germans won't help and seizing the Spanish territory suggested would do just that.

How does it all play out? Assuming a reduced Battle of Britain while going into Med then... I figure siege of Gibraltar takes outside 6 months. Call it spring 1941. Malta falls before 1941. Next logical step is the Germans help the Italians so there is no debacle of Italian Invasion of Egypt. There are two divisions in Egypt in 1940. A single German armored corps is enough. So Egypt odds are was taken in late 1940.

I figure Churchill faces a revolt of Parliament once all 3 are in Axis hands. It would depend on what if any terms Hitler offer's as to whether Churchill survives.

Michael
 
Only way this flies is after Battle for France. In which case there is no ALLIES, there is just the UK. Yes Franco isn't stupid if Hitler is serious, note Admiral Wilhelm Canaris was slipping Spanish info on Hitler's intentions, there is little Franco can do to stop him. The British MIGHT be able to starve Spain out before Germans knock them out but the Germans could occupy all of Spain.

The British almost certainly cannot starve Spain before the Germans take it all over - but they can keep the blockade going and achieving that result after the German takeover. It will then be up to the Germans to feed the Spaniards, something they cannot exactly be relied upon for doing, and Franco knows that.


If Franco chooses to fight the Germans then he becomes an exile, in 1940 that looks like a very, very bad bet.

Huh, no. The Polish government had no Polish land to go to, and it was an exile. Franco could go to the Canarias, where he had a solid base. Or to Spanish Morocco. Both are Spanish territory and the Germans can't take them, while the British can support him in them.
Sure the French who set up the Vichy government didn't keep the fight going and didn't move the government to the colonies. But Franco is a different man than those. His very history is that of a colonial general, one of making a comeback from the colonies.

Its a coin flip as to what the British do, pushing to Spanish into active helping of the Germans won't help and seizing the Spanish territory suggested would do just that.

Unlikely that the British pause. First thing, would the British really be worried about the possible Spanish help? The country was on its knees. If the Germans are in it, then with or without Spanish help they'll soon be bombing and bombarding Gibraltar. What can the Spaniards add? On the contrary, gaining a replacement base in the Canarias is useful.
Counterproof: bombarding French warships and shedding French blood would surely have the potential of pushing the Vichy French into helping the Germans more openly, maybe even into declaring war - it would be a clear casus belli. Did that stop the British? No, and the Vichy French were much more dangerous than the Spaniards.
 
Gibraltar is neutralized by a combination of airpower and artillery by day two; the germans were planning on committing 26 battalions of artillery which will suppress or destroy all British surface positions pretty much instantly since they will have complete and total air superiority to spot the fall of their rounds

How long the British hold out in the rock itself who knows 2 weeks; 3? Eventually the Germans reach the water casemate areas and dynamite them and the battle is over

the british taking the canaries (assuming they don't lose much of force h in any sort of surprise air bombardment before they leave the rock; and that they also lay waste to the spanish fleet at cadiz on the way out) leaves them in a similar place in terms of staging the fleet for ops in the atlantic

for the med campaign though it's a game changer, now every single convoy without exception has to go around the cape

malta can now only be supplied from one direction which means that the RM and the KM can concentrate all of their submarines in the eastern med... the RM may also look for favorably for a fleet action given that their capital ships were newer than the alexandria fleet and that they could bring 2 to 1 numerical superiority to the table

with malta captured as well this gives the axis a closer hop to stage their fighters to provide top cover to the convoys so british ability to sink them by air will be much more limited

with an actually secure supply line to tripoli, tripoli's port facilities could be expanded or at least the heavy damage done by the barham's shelling could be more effectively repaired; with control of malta and crete the axis can also much more reliably ship supplied to tobruk and shave a lot of fuel and wear off their vehicles by having them delivery closer to the front
 
Gibraltar is neutralized by a combination of airpower and artillery by day two; the germans were planning on committing 26 battalions of artillery which will suppress or destroy all British surface positions pretty much instantly since they will have complete and total air superiority to spot the fall of their rounds

Actually the operation, however, doesn't begin on "day 0", which seems to be the day before the artillery units can start firing. The operation begins with deploying the artillery units to Algeciras, which will be an interesting operation logistically wise. I'd like to know how much time the Germans will need to do that, with the various alternatives: full Spanish collaboration? (even in this case, the rail job will be daunting) Reluctant collaboration? Token Spanish resistance? All-out Spanish resistance? By land or, as some adventurous soul has suggested, by mounting a naval landing operation? Will the British twiddle their thumbs over that time?

the british taking the canaries (assuming they don't lose much of force h in any sort of surprise air bombardment before they leave the rock;

a. yes, we can assume the British don't suffer from a surprise air bombardment, and
b. the force set aside for taking the Canarias was not based in Gibraltar. Consider reading the necessary materials, before posting.

and that they also lay waste to the spanish fleet at cadiz on the way out)

It's not as if the Spanish fleet was such a danger.

leaves them in a similar place in terms of staging the fleet for ops in the atlantic

Yes, actually a bit better.

for the med campaign though it's a game changer, now every single convoy without exception has to go around the cape

Yes. Now, how many convoys went all the way through the Med, as opposed to being in there in order to resupply Malta? In OTL.

malta can now only be supplied from one direction which means that the RM and the KM can concentrate all of their submarines in the eastern med... the RM may also look for favorably for a fleet action given that their capital ships were newer than the alexandria fleet and that they could bring 2 to 1 numerical superiority to the table

So the British are unable to rejuggle their warships and reinforce Alexandria if they need to? Why?

with malta captured as well this gives the axis a closer hop to stage their fighters to provide top cover to the convoys so british ability to sink them by air will be much more limited

Well, yes. One would still need to provide some evidence that the fall of Gibraltar makes the fall of Malta really that much more likely. A bit more likely, yes; a certain outcome - no.

As a final note, the Germans managed to send in submarines through the Straits, with Gibraltar being an operational air-naval base. Now that it's a pile of charred rock and concrete rubble, I suspect the British will be able to send in their submarines too. And they might well use them to compensate a shortage of air attacks from Malta, after all, the main cause of losses for the Italian convoys were the subs.
 
the staging assumably would take at least a month, but this is during the blitz/sealion a threat (real or imagined) so British strategic options to respond to a buildup are pretty limited (after all how many guys can you cram into gibraltar, and in effect you would be putting more people in harms way to be captured)

i meant to say that if force H was heavily damaged at anchor that the canary option might not happen right away because the british wouldn't want to leave the home islands bereft in the event of sealion

no the spanish fleet was not a threat, but they would destroy it anyway on the way out (it would probably only take 2 hours)

only a couple convoys went all the way through but the axis had to devote subs and maritime recon to observe this approach and the Italian fleet had to keep units in reserve to guard/engage threats from this direction

force h still has a job to do watching the lower atlantic/assisting in escort work... transferring units to the alexandria fleet would have to wait till at least mid 41 when the threat of sealion has totally disapated and even then with bismark and tirpitz ready to be commissioned there will be voices against reinforcing the alexandria fleet
 

BlondieBC

Banned
All,
Now: Could Axis have initiated one? landed in Spain and with Franco's tacit approval had gone through with a land based attack.

What would have been the consequences of Gibraltar falling to the Axis?

So, Gib gone n 1940.

Then Malta:
I think we have concluded a lot of times that Malta would not be able to defend itself in 1940 or very early 1941. So with Malta gone in 1940 as well, the North Africa and Egypt suddenly becomes very dangerous territory.

The Med as an Axis lake is now within reach? or is it?

Can we imagine the Italian navy being a bit more courageous? Not saying that the destroyer fleet weren't (they did a job).

Crete is sort of the key to Greece and Egypt. but if that is the only part left in the Med, then what?

Did it really hinge on Gib, Malta and Crete?

Ivan

German would have to insist, and if Franco still said no, then invade Spain. Not a place for half measures. Taking Gibraltar is a two part operation. Getting in place the needed units (investing the lines) and then reducing the fortress through siege. It likely takes 30-60 days to get the forces in place plus another 90-120 to finish the siege. Within days of siege starting, the fortress will be largely useless of offensive operations. You now are 1/3 of the way to making the Med an Axis lake.

Malta can also be taken, ideally at the same time to apply pressure to the UK forces. We can now focus on the Eastern Med Sea battle. It is easier to get ships to North Africa. We will need to start building railroads on a major scale from Tripoli and Tobruk. We are diverting forces from Russia so lots of butterflies here. But a well supplied Afrika Corp can hold Libya. It will be a lot harder to take the Suez, the last 1/3 of the plan. It is easy for the UK to reinforce here, and they likely will. And there are a series of good defensive lines. El Alemein, Nile, Suez, and a Waddi in the Sinai. A lot depends on how much Hitler is willing to throw into the theater.

I do think success will make for a more aggressive Italian Navy. Now does and how much does this help is a different issue.

It is likely the Greece operations don't happen.
 

BlondieBC

Banned
As has been pointed numerous times, Axis having the ability to bring supplies from Italy to Africa means nothing if the supplies end up stranded in Tripoli. Even given the ability to unload an unlimited number of ships in Tripoli, leaves unsolved question of getting the supplies to the front line, given the lack of infrastructure.

The Germans will need to start building a RR. They can likely achieve 1-2 miles per day of new track, which will rapidly improve the situation, but still give the British a lot of time to build up in Egypt.
 
The Germans will need to start building a RR. They can likely achieve 1-2 miles per day of new track, which will rapidly improve the situation, but still give the British a lot of time to build up in Egypt.

Was there any axis rr track built in n africa after the war started? There certainly wasnt much.
 

BlondieBC

Banned
Was there any axis rr track built in n africa after the war started? There certainly wasnt much.

Since it is an ATL, that is not terribly relevant. You can look at the UK building a RR at the speed of 1-2 miles per day in WW1 in the Sinai as an example of what can happened. The UK also did it somewhere else in WW1 at about the same speed. With fewer losses to Allied shipping due to Gibraltar and Malta falling, there should be plenty of transports to bring over extra RR building supplies. And there are plenty of supplies, if push come to shove, you just loot some RR in conquered Europe. The Ottomans did this to their own RR in railroad in WW1 in Lebanon to build RR in Palestine. Again, all this presume the Nazi are taking the knock UK out of war by Med strategy serious.

Now what does all this get you. Ideally, you can take the ships to Tobruk safely and start building an RR there. More realistically, it is probably Tripoli then by rail to Eastern Libya. And what do we get out of these improvements in the ATL. A well supplied Afrika Corp able to defend Libya, and possible push as far as the Nile. There are other things that have to be done to knock the UK out of the war, but these require not attacking the USSR and doing other very aggressive actions.
 
One of the big reason's Franco refused to enter the war was because Canaris both told him Germany would eventually lose, and bribed him to stay neutral. If you want to take Gibralter, you first have to get rid of Canaris.

of course, once you've got Franco's agreement, you won't have to build a new railroad, just regauge the existing ones (simply shift one or both tracks inwards, but at least the sleepers are there and the bed's prepared).
 
The British almost certainly cannot starve Spain before the Germans take it all over - but they can keep the blockade going and achieving that result after the German takeover. It will then be up to the Germans to feed the Spaniards, something they cannot exactly be relied upon for doing, and Franco knows that.

Spain under hostile occupation gets fed any better?




Huh, no. The Polish government had no Polish land to go to, and it was an exile. Franco could go to the Canarias, where he had a solid base. Or to Spanish Morocco. Both are Spanish territory and the Germans can't take them, while the British can support him in them.

None of the areas are SPAIN itself, as to British support. That had shown itself to be so helpful to the other nations now under occupation by the Germans. Play the hand out, what does becoming an exile get Franco in this situation? Simple fact is the British can't defeat Germany by themselves. USA didn't lift a finger to save France and isn't doing much to save the British. Soviet Union appears to have made a deal with Germany. What exactly is the long term plan here?

Sure the French who set up the Vichy government didn't keep the fight going and didn't move the government to the colonies. But Franco is a different man than those. His very history is that of a colonial general, one of making a comeback from the colonies.

Very different situation. Franco was able to jump into Spain at once and could hope for continued foreign aid to help is campaign in Spain. Here all he can hope for is support to prop up his time as an exile. I repeat whats the long term plan here?

Unlikely that the British pause. First thing, would the British really be worried about the possible Spanish help? The country was on its knees. If the Germans are in it, then with or without Spanish help they'll soon be bombing and bombarding Gibraltar. What can the Spaniards add? On the contrary, gaining a replacement base in the Canarias is useful.

Another overt enemy, something that matters in political calculus to maintain the will to fight the war out. Which at this moment is fairly bleak outlook. Right now British are depending on someone coming to their aid; you don't get that by adding to your list of enemies. Spain fully in German camp means German aircraft and U Boats operate overtly out of Spain; British might assume that anyways. Spain in enemy camp means Germans don't have to screw around on the railways, etc. Spanish actually do the logistics for the Germans; minor point I agree but its there.


Counterproof: bombarding French warships and shedding French blood would surely have the potential of pushing the Vichy French into helping the Germans more openly, maybe even into declaring war - it would be a clear casus belli. Did that stop the British? No, and the Vichy French were much more dangerous than the Spaniards.

EXCEPT you left out the key part. What is the French threat the British were worried about? The French fleet. Once that was crippled by the attack, the short / medium term worry has been removed. IE the threat that you first bring up that France represents. What does pushing Spain into Germany's arms gain UK besides the Spanish bits of land?

In any case I agree its a possible move, Churchill didn't tend towards rational moves. Hence my coin flip comment.

Michael
 
I am not sure asny sea-based invasion of Gibraltar would be a solution insofar as Germany didn ot have a tradition of this.

Operation Felix did only look at invasion of Gibraltar from the land-side.

That Franco was not interested in the project is somewhat understandable.

I don't think Germany would benefit by having an occupied Spain. Neutral countries were very useful: Switzerland, Sweden produced armaments for Germany and could not be bombed by the Allieds. Very convenient.

By getting red of Gibraltar, that end of the Med could and would have been bloked off.

Trying to get additional Allied naval forces into the Med via Suez is not easy.

At the time of construction it was only 8 m deep. Was that a limitation on the size of war ships going through? PoW draught: 10,5 m.

How deep was it in 1939/40?

Could Suez even handle additional transports, trying to get everything that used to flow through Gibraltar to go through Suez? how many more days would it add to the turn-around time of transports?

That could even put a brake on how many troops Egypt could "carry".

What could/would Franco do if Germany just landed the neceswsary troops in Southern Spain? wring his hands? fight? In essence, he probably could not do a lot.

Guderian's plan of storming into Spain fromt he North is a bit dramatic. Figthing all the way to the southern tip of Spain is not a nice prospect.

If Gibraltar and Malta were lost, would Britain have played in Greece?
Not so sure. With what really? Especially as Crete would have to be invaded by Germany.

Would Italy have been more courageous?

Ivan
 
Could Suez even handle additional transports, trying to get everything that used to flow through Gibraltar to go through Suez? how many more days would it add to the turn-around time of transports?

Care to quantify that "everything that used to flow through Gibraltar" all the way to Alexandria? In actual history. How many convoys did go there, as opposed to being needed for Malta? How many ships? How much tonnage?

And yes, battleships could go through the Suez Canal in 1940, obviously.
 
What could/would Franco do if Germany just landed the neceswsary troops in Southern Spain? wring his hands? fight? In essence, he probably could not do a lot.
And how's Germany moving the troops? Sealion called for converted river-barges, which gives me no confidence whatsoever in their ability to carry this out, especially as Post Norway the Kriegsmarine is basically a lightly supported cruiser squadron, and the Italians are (temporarily, until Malta is neutralised) trapped in the Eastern end of the Med.

Guderian's plan of storming into Spain fromt he North is a bit dramatic. Figthing all the way to the southern tip of Spain is not a nice prospect.
Neither is losing the last shreds of your navy and a good many troops because some total lunatic decided that going by sea would be easier.
 

BlondieBC

Banned
I am not sure asny sea-based invasion of Gibraltar would be a solution insofar as Germany didn ot have a tradition of this.

They did one major operation in the Baltic in 1917 of about Corp size, so their is a tradition. Hitler was a corporal with little experience in military matters who gave people like Goering wide latitude in their actions. For an ATL, you just need Hitler to fall in love with the history of this operation or to simply have a close naval adviser who like this operation. Now that being said, the land based option makes a lot more sense, and a sea based attack will be a fiasco on Gibraltar.

I don't think Germany would benefit by having an occupied Spain. Neutral countries were very useful: Switzerland, Sweden produced armaments for Germany and could not be bombed by the Allieds. Very convenient.

Agreed there are benefits to neutral countries. The USA G-2 thought to take out the UK required not only the Med Strategy, but an West African strategy. The Germans/Italians did need to shut the Med, but they needed more. The next step would be to occupy French Africa and begin naval and air based attacks out of West Africa into the Central and South Atlantic. This would greatly stretch how far the UK had to convoy. Unfortunately, the G-2 reports that I read did not include a lot of details since they were summaries designed for the President. And of course, if one tries to occupy a very large part of Africa, you can't do the USSR at the same time, and this is a lot of the reason Hitler did not chose this option. It has to do more with his religious beliefs (Nazism) as a rational analysis of the underlying military issues.

Could Suez even handle additional transports, trying to get everything that used to flow through Gibraltar to go through Suez? how many more days would it add to the turn-around time of transports?

That could even put a brake on how many troops Egypt could "carry".

Not really. Just like the Germans, the UK would need to use alternative ports and build railroads. So you greatly expand Port Said (south end of canal) and build a short RR to Cairo and Alexander. The UK built an RR through the Sinai in WW1, so if push came to shove you can unload at Aqaba and use the RR or even use Jeddah or another small port which name I don't remember right now. I don't know where the German advance stalls, but I am pretty sure it stalls since the UK can just keep falling back. The UK can fight in Egypt or Palestine or even Arabia and Iraq if required.

And this gets to the strategic issue of the UK first strategy. There is a lot to done. IMO, the Nazi are rightly criticized for not taking Malta early. The Italian navy was poorly used. There is no good reason not to have a lot more German air power in Italy in the 1940 to 1941 time frame to protect the Italian fleet instead of squandering on the UK. Taking Gibraltar is a good step, but involves the real cost of Spain not being neutral. But having done this, we are only 2/3 of the way through the Med strategy, and even after this is done, we are less than 2/3 of the way to defeating the UK. 4/9ths is still less than half way.

People talk a lot about the ME oil fields, and these would be nice to have, but they are not what is needed to defeat the UK. You either starve to invade the British Isles to win. Invading requires a navy which requires the Nazi to focus on the Navy for up to 10 years. Not realistic with the German mind set. So now what are the other 2/3. You must stop the flow of ships through the south Atlantic, then stop the flow through the Panama Canal/East Coast of USA. I had to deal with a lot of these issues in my TL, but they are different in many ways due to WW1 and having a major naval bases in Africa. After we secure the Med or at least 2/3 of the Med (I will need a huge amount of traffic to Africa), I then have to build railroads across the Sahara or otherwise find ways to move goods to West Africa not using the oceans. I do believe the Nazi could have built RR in coast Libya and maybe Egypt, but building multiple RR for Med ports to West African ports will take years. It is an order of magnitude more difficult than a coastal Libyan RR. This is why I wish the G-2 reports had more detail. I am sure they had people study the issue, but I have no idea how they though the Nazi supply substantial land and air forces in Dakar.

Then you have to close the USA to England route. England will be suffering greatly if I close the South Atlantic, and with the right forces down in Africa, the South Atlantic is broadly achievable. Well at least making the UK escort all convoys with serious escorts, and this will greatly harm the food imported from South American, Australia, and NZ. It might be enough to win. But now the USA to England route will cause a war with the USA even if we don't have FDR in the office. So now we are into a large asymetrical naval/air warfare. IMO, it is winnable, but it takes year. And this leaves us with one question, how long the UK morale lasts? And this has been debated in many threads.

So what likely happens if the Gibraltar and Malta falls without an full UK strategy? The Afrika Corp/Monty front will stalemate. Initially, the UK will be too weak to take any of Northwest Africa or Spain proper. Germany loses the imports via Spain and Spain becomes a resource drain. Italy is less of a drain, so maybe it balances out. The Nazi still lose in the USSR barring some odd butterflies. The USA will still want to attack in late 1942, but it will likely be somewhere besides Morocco. Italy survives til the end. If WW2 was a close war like WW1, talking Malta and Gibraltar is a war winner. Here, it just makes it longer in most cases.
 
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