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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:25 AM
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TL Ideas you have, but lack the wherewithal to execute

I suffer from often starting timelines when I don't have the time for them. And I often come up with POD's for TL's without having a firm knowledge of the period to do anything with them. So I figure giving someone else an idea isn't a bad way to contribute. So if you guys have an idea feel free to post one.

BOLD AND DRAMATIC, FORCEFUL & DYNAMIC: The POD is that Arthur Bremer is able to assassinate Richard Nixon in the 1972 election. The preferable date in April 11th.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:33 AM
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Fear Not The Revolution, Habibi: Salah Jadid bests Hafez al-Assad in the internal Ba'ath Party struggles of the mid 1960s, and leads Syria in a radical new direction, including intervention in the Black September uprising. This leads to a drastically different Middle East with a much earlier Palestinian state, different alliances and borders, and international implications.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 05:34 AM
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COMMIE WAR II

The idea is a world war in the mid-30s to mid-50s period where the majority of the involved states are Communists of various stripes. I've gotten as far as deciding that the sides are probably (all Communist) Germany vs France and Russia, with Fascist Italy and Great Britain supporting Germany for selfish reasons, and an Socialist but isolationist US having a separate war against Japan in the Pacific, which draws them into the big war on Germany's side because of Japan's eventually not-so-secret alliance with the British...
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Old September 20th, 2012, 08:06 AM
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Bob Dole called the 2nd half of the 20th Century "the Age of Nixon" in his eulogy at Nixon's 1994 funeral. While Dole may have been overstating things a bit, Nixon was a huge influence on the course of American politics beginning with his first election to Congress in 1946. I've always thought it would be interesting to explore a world where Nixon was killed circa 1945/46 before he could be elected to office.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 08:34 AM
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I have so many of these -- actually too late at night for me to even begin listing them here, so I'll have to come back to this later...
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Old September 20th, 2012, 09:11 AM
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Fear Not The Revolution, Habibi: Salah Jadid bests Hafez al-Assad in the internal Ba'ath Party struggles of the mid 1960s, and leads Syria in a radical new direction, including intervention in the Black September uprising. This leads to a drastically different Middle East with a much earlier Palestinian state, different alliances and borders, and international implications.
I had a different idea for a Palistinian state - but it does sort of include Syrian intervention.

Jordan stays out of the 6 day war - so the West Bank is not occupied (except by Jordan) this gives the Palastinians a 2/3 majority population in Jordan.

Come Black September the Palastinians with some Aid from Syria 'win' and establish a Palestinian state. They can even have nice fair elections - after all Jordan claimed the west bank as Jordanian and went as far as to insist those living there where Jordanians....

The problem is where does that leave Israeli - Palestinian relations?
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Old September 20th, 2012, 10:07 AM
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Here's one: "Ross Perot: The Businessman, The Sailor, The President".
POD-Aug. 24, 1986-Vice-President Bush dies in an auto accident on the way home from a Kennebunkport vacation.
Ross Perot wins two terms of office in '92 and '96 after Democratic President Mike Dukakis fails to fix the economy. Iran invades Saudi Arabia in 1990 with Saddam's help after the violent overthrow of the monarchy in November '88 leads to a revolutionary (though not Communist) republican state, that remains friendly with the U.S. The Soviet Union condemns Tehran and offers them no help. Unfortunately, the war lasts until January 1992, and with the destruction of many Saudi oil fields in 1990-91. Gas prices are stabilized by emergency measures undertaken by Dukakis's administration in '91 but it comes at a cost.
The 1992 candidate's field isn't exactly looking good for either of the two main parties: Paul Tsongas is seen as the "terminally dull Massachusetts Greek(thanks Matt White!)", and Mitt Romney is regarded as an equally tepid candidate with a knack for sucking the absolute life out of any debate and a bit of a flip-flopper to boot. Perot wins only 40% of the popular vote but over 300 EVs, thus catapulting him to the Presidency.....thus starting a chain of events forever changing America as we know it.......
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Old September 20th, 2012, 10:21 AM
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I’ve thought of a TL when National Socialism not only emerges, but indeed flourishes among the Germans in the Austro-Hungarian Empire before it’s dissolution, sometime at the end of the XIX or the beginning of the XX centuries. The implications of a German ultra-nationalist coup (perhaps by part of the army) would be quite interesting.



Some sort of civil war would ensue and the government would probably be the first to trial the ‘innovations’ that total warfare brought to Europe: fiat money, concentration camps, ethnic cleansing, a breakdown of civil society and militarism in general. One could witness the emergence of modern terrorism and other para-statal actors, and so forth. And let’s not even get started on the chaos that such an “Austrian Revolution” would bring to the European stage.



Still that period is over-used and the time required for such a TL if far more than I can hope to spare.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 10:24 AM
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COMMIE WAR II

The idea is a world war in the mid-30s to mid-50s period where the majority of the involved states are Communists of various stripes. I've gotten as far as deciding that the sides are probably (all Communist) Germany vs France and Russia, with Fascist Italy and Great Britain supporting Germany for selfish reasons, and an Socialist but isolationist US having a separate war against Japan in the Pacific, which draws them into the big war on Germany's side because of Japan's eventually not-so-secret alliance with the British...
I'd read this
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Old September 20th, 2012, 10:40 AM
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“100 Billion Deutschmarks” or “A very different 90’s”

An idea I had for a TL revolves around German reunification: in a Der Spiegel article (http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-719848-5.html) it is reported that, had Gorbachev demanded 100 billion D-marks as the Soviet price of German reunification, Germany would have agreed without qualm.

So, imagine, Gorbachev makes the demand and Germany pays, resulting in a reunified Germany working hard to pay off its debts for much of the 90’s, whilst the Soviet Union manages to prop-up its faltering economy & reform some of its key industries, averting the economic stagnation that collapsed it…
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Old September 20th, 2012, 11:02 AM
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I have the pet project, once my Perot TL will be over, to develop a TL where the French monarchy was restored in 1873, keeping IOTL personalities and people, regardless of butterflies. Also, to find a POD that could allow Napoleon's First Empire to continue.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 11:30 AM
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I've finally started one my ideas in the Pre-1900 forum [/shamelessplug]
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Old September 20th, 2012, 11:34 AM
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Mine would have to be this TL I've been rolling around in my head for a while.

The POD would be someone more anti-war heading the SPD in Germany 1914, leading to a crackdown on socialists during WWI and a more widespread and radical socialist and anarchist movement throughout Germany and in the Heer. When Germany loses WWI as in OTL, the communists and socials and what have you lead a revolution, as in OTL. This time, however, it succeeds.

The ramifications of a socialist Germany and Russia are pretty astounding, and I'm sure there would be lots of fun stuff in Eastern Europe happening.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 11:56 AM
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Old September 20th, 2012, 12:51 PM
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I’ve thought of a TL when National Socialism not only emerges, but indeed flourishes among the Germans in the Austro-Hungarian Empire
Austrian National Socialism does actually pre-date German National Socialism in OTL.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 12:53 PM
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I suffer from often starting timelines when I don't have the time for them. And I often come up with POD's for TL's without having a firm knowledge of the period to do anything with them. So I figure giving someone else an idea isn't a bad way to contribute. So if you guys have an idea feel free to post one.

BOLD AND DRAMATIC, FORCEFUL & DYNAMIC: The POD is that Arthur Bremer is able to assassinate Richard Nixon in the 1972 election. The preferable date in April 11th.
For what it's worth, I used that as a POD for a short story called Gonzeaux.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:22 PM
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An idea I had for a TL revolves around German reunification: in a Der Spiegel article (http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-719848-5.html) it is reported that, had Gorbachev demanded 100 billion D-marks as the Soviet price of German reunification, Germany would have agreed without qualm.

So, imagine, Gorbachev makes the demand and Germany pays, resulting in a reunified Germany working hard to pay off its debts for much of the 90’s, whilst the Soviet Union manages to prop-up its faltering economy & reform some of its key industries, averting the economic stagnation that collapsed it…
"And then we hold East Germany ransom for... one million Deutschmark!"
"Erm, Comrade Gorbachev, don't you think we should ask for a bit more? One million Deutschmark isn't as much as it was back when the Berlin Wall was built."
"Really?"
"The Soviet Union has a gross domestic product of over two thousand billion Deutschmark."
"Well that's nice... Okay, how about we hold East Germany ransom for... one hundred... billion... Deutschmark...!!! Mohohohaha-..."
"Mohahahaha!!!"
"Hahahahahahahaa!!"
"MOHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!"
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:26 PM
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Stalin dies "heroically" in 1943, and Beria takes over the USSR. Beria and Truman come to a deal on international atomic disarmament in 1946, and the Cold War never starts - the US and the USSR certainly don't like each other, but they're rivals, not enemies. At first, everything looks like we're headed into a real golden age, and in many ways the 50s and 60s are - if you're a white American, European, or Russian. But the former colonies are not happy about the world being divided up between the two superpowers, and in an underground laboratory in the Himalayas, renegade scientists are plotting to bring back a dreadful weapon, a weapon of terror - a weapon the world turned its back on twenty years ago...
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:43 PM
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Austrian National Socialism does actually pre-date German National Socialism in OTL.
Indeed that was the inspiration.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 01:51 PM
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France holds out in 1940, causing the Wehrmacht to shoot it's bolt & Germany getting beaten a few years quicker.

Started a TL on that myself, didnt get far...
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