What's your favourite kind of Italy?

[Lone Wolf]

Kovalenko did a similar thread for Russia, so why not a poll for Italy?

I am dissatisfied with how Italy turned out, and I believe that the centralism of the House of Savoy only did harm to the State, especially in the South. I think that Italy had to be born as a confederation or federation of the pre-unitary states, led by an elected President instead of a King, but with sub-national monarchies where the people wants a monarch.

[kasumigenx]

Hohenstauffen Italy

[eliphas8]

Alternate Italy united during 1848 as a federation.

[Germaniac]

The idea regional monarchs under the final authority of a democratically elected president seems like a pretty interesting idea, however contradictory

[Iori]

Originally Posted by Germaniac

The idea regional monarchs under the final authority of a democratically elected president seems like a pretty interesting idea, however contradictory

That's not to far from what Malaysia is, the difference being instead of Sub-National Monarchs and a National President Malaysia has Sub-National Monarchs and a National Monarch.

[Rush Tarquin]

An Italian Republic unified by Tuscan Guelphs.

[Lalli]

Pre-united Italy. There would be Kingdom of Two Sicilies, Kingdom of Sardinia, Republic of Genova, Duchy of Milan, Republic of Venice, Grand Duchy of Tuscany, Duchy of Parma, Duchy of Modena and Papal States.

[Kovalenko]

Originally Posted by Neoteros

Kovalenko did a similar thread for Russia, so why not a poll for Italy?

I am dissatisfied with how Italy turned out, and I believe that the centralism of the House of Savoy only did harm to the State, especially in the South. I think that Italy had to be born as a confederation or federation of the pre-unitary states, led by an elected President instead of a King, but with sub-national monarchies where the people wants a monarch.

Nice to see I started something! Personally I've always liked the pre-unitary Italian States.

[isabella]

Originally Posted by Lalli

Pre-united Italy. There would be Kingdom of Two Sicilies, Kingdom of Sardinia, Republic of Genova, Grand Duchy of Milan, Republic of Venice, Grand Duchy of Tuscany, Grand Duchy of Parma and Papal States.

Parma and Milan was both a Duchies and you have forgotten the Duchy of Modena

[Iori]

I forgot to answer the question, basically anything in which Venice, Sicily (as in the Island) and San Marino are independent and preferably in which their are no Papal States, or they're very small.

[LordKalvan]

An Italy where there were no Gothic wars, Justinian never attempted to resurrect the WRE. The Ostrogothic kingdom stabilized, was able to keep possession of Provence and Noricum and eventually the Ostrogoth and Visigoth kingdoms merged by marriage. Bonus if the Vandals are also subsumed in the Goth uber-kingdom.
And the bishop of Rome never became more than that; no papal states of any kind, large of small. It goes without saying.


Alternatively, anything with a successful Venice; even better if the successful Venice co-exists with a successful Milan. No papal states. Better if there is no pope either. A protestant Italy (opposing a pope in France or Spain, something coming out of the Great Western Schism) would be great.

[Falecius]

I voted pre-unitary because that's the period of our literature I like most, even I actually focused on studying mostly Risorgimento era.

[Herzen's love-child]

Another for a Hohenstaufen Italy. One that dominates the whole of Italy, including Rome and the Church(Except for Venice!). So, guess that would be AH Italy...

[jakewilson]

The Austro-Italian Empire, born from Austria's loss of Hungary and gains in Italy during the 1848 revolutions. The idea is that the pope and Tuscans back the Habsburgs against the Savoys for whatever reason.

[BBadolato]

A Viscounti Italy personally

[Captain Jack]

venetian republic

[Rex Mundi]

An alternate history tripartite Italy with a Kingdom of Italy in the north, Papal States in the middle and a Kingdom of Sicily in the south.

[Muwatalli']

Etruscan Italy.

[Orko]

Fascist Italy, not because I'm fascist (I'm not, of course) but because of the extremely interesting AH scenarios that this era has a potential for.

[Rush Tarquin]

Originally Posted by Orko

Fascist Italy, not because I'm fascist (I'm not, of course) but because of the extremely interesting AH scenarios that this era has a potential for.

It's better than the two votes for Salo, the Fascist North Korea. Someone must really hate Italians.