Who would be 'in' for a crusade in 1405?

[Zeller]

I've found that most monarchs in this year were busy securing their throne. Or did I miss something? Which nobleman or someone else wlould be likely to rally men for a crusade?

[Zeller]

Apart from the Teutonic Knights and the Knights of St John, of course.

[Elfwine]

Where is this hypothetical crusade going?

[Zeller]

Against the Ottoman Empire. For details, check out my thread http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...d.php?t=250592

[yourworstnightmare]

The Venetians and Genovese perhaps?

[Grey Wolf]

Originally Posted by yourworstnightmare

The Venetians and Genovese perhaps?

Venice is riding a tide at this time, so should be happy, especially if they're being paid.

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[Zeller]

Wouldn't they offer naval support 'only'?

[Elfwine]

Not sure there would be a crusade if the Ottomans don't look threatening - but if there is one, possibly Martin I of Sicily, and/or Ladislaus of Naples.

[Zeller]

Ladislaus is kinda against the Pope at this time, isn't he? And Martin may be too concerned about domestic threats, no? At least that is my impression after skimming through wikipedia articles on them.

And if they could get rid of the Ottomans with a push, the Pope might like the idea.

[yourworstnightmare]

Perhaps Hungary if they had someone else than Sigismund as king.

[Zeller]

Actually he started the chain-reaction that has led up to this event.

[Elfwine]

Originally Posted by Zeller

Ladislaus is kinda against the Pope at this time, isn't he? And Martin may be too concerned about domestic threats, no? At least that is my impression after skimming through wikipedia articles on them.

And if they could get rid of the Ottomans with a push, the Pope might like the idea.

Being against the pope doesn't mean he won't take advantage of an opportunity to crusade if it can benefit him.

Martin isn't facing anything as of 1405, so . . .

[yourworstnightmare]

Originally Posted by Zeller

Actually he started the chain-reaction that has led up to this event.

Yes, but the problem with Sigismund is that as soon as he leave Hungary with his army the Hungarians will gladly dethrone him in his absence.

[Zeller]

That didn't happen in 1396 either, and he had a league of nobles loyal to him during these years too.
Maybe one of his generals like Pipo of Ozora could lead the campaign.

[Grey Wolf]

Originally Posted by Zeller

Wouldn't they offer naval support 'only'?

It depends where the crusade is going? But naval support is not an only, because if you can't clear the seas of Islamic warships, then you can't get there safely. Venice can't raise a great land army, even though its in a period of enlargement on land, and were all about the navy - which of course includes fighting men for ship-to-ship combat

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[Tocomocho]

I suggest solving the whole Pope/Antipope/Rome/Avignon conflict first. I don't think anyone is going to take a Crusade seriously if they can't agree wether the guy calling for it is the real deal or an impostor.

[Xhavnak]

Scotland was always fairly keen on joining a new crusade - situations would have to be right for them to be able to though and I doubt they would acheive much.

[Titus_Pullo]

Originally Posted by Zeller

I've found that most monarchs in this year were busy securing their throne. Or did I miss something? Which nobleman or someone else wlould be likely to rally men for a crusade?

The Spanish reconquista was a crusade.

[mikegold]

It would be cool to see the OTL Hussites' greatest generals, Zizka and Prokop, as stars of the Catholic armies in TTL's crusade!

[Zeller]

Originally Posted by Grey Wolf

It depends where the crusade is going?

To the Ottoman-occupied Balkans.

Originally Posted by Tocomocho

I suggest solving the whole Pope/Antipope/Rome/Avignon conflict first..

Good point.

Originally Posted by Xhavnak

Scotland was always fairly keen on joining a new crusade - situations would have to be right for them to be able to though and I doubt they would acheive much.

I think Robert III was also busy securing the succession.

Originally Posted by Titus_Pullo

The Spanish reconquista was a crusade.

Indeed, but we are talking about an Eastern one.

Originally Posted by mikegold

It would be cool to see the OTL Hussites' greatest generals, Zizka and Prokop, as stars of the Catholic armies in TTL's crusade!

Is that plausible?