AHC - Make Estonia a regional power

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to make Estonia into a European power on the level of OTL Italy or Japan.

No POD limits, because you'll have to really fire up the wayback machine for this, I suspect. It doesn't even have to remain powerful in TTL's 2012, and it certainly doesn't have to be limited to the borders of OTL Estonia, but it has to have been a regional power at some period in its history and remain majority culturally Estonian.

Any takers?
 
Maybe by a complete danish conquest of Estonia that would take the place of Livonian Order in Baltic, only to see the Danish crown split in different kingdoms with Estonia among them?
 
Well, having an Estonia controling, say OTL 2012 Estonia plus stuff like Ingria and the Vidzeme region of Latvia (EDIT: Without Greater Riga)... Then you would have a nice, little state with some very useful sea fortresses and ports.

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How to achieve that is hard though. A very weak Russia and a weak Sweden would definitely help. OR Sweden makes these regions the Kingdom of Estonia while it controls the region.
 
I think you need to exclude Riga or that becomes much to much of a centre of power and wealth, and we end up with a Livonia rather than a Latvia. Annexing Ingria and large parts of Northern Latvia sound reasonable though.
 
If Estonia were to form part, early on, of a greater 'Finnic' polity also encompassing the Finns and the Ingrians it might be able to at least survive in the face of Swedish and East Slavic incursion and would also be well-placed to control a great deal of the lucrative Baltic trade. This is the best-case scenario, and not a very likely one I imagine.

However, being able to stand on the same level as united Italy or Japan is simply not possible. The economic resources are not there to allow it.
 
This is hard. You need to weaken Denmark (happened OTL through wars with Sweden), Sweden, Russia, the Livonian Confederation (happened OTL) and Poland-Lithuania (happened OTL but much later).
 
Very hard, as even in the best circumstances there is simply not enough ethnic/cultural Finns and Estonians to be an Italian sized economy.

I'd start with the Livonian Sword Brothers as some have already stated. They are not defeated at the Battle of Saule in 1236. They avoid defeat and expand east along the Daugava River. They retain their independence and are not subsumed within the Teutonic Knights.

Over the next decades, the Sword Brothers expand north and east into more Finno-Ugric territory. They defeat the Novgorod Republic in a great battle in the mid 13th century. They gain the city of Pskov and advance north into Ingria. Future wars continue to push the border east, and the Sword Brothers are able to expand into Karelia and Finland. The Livonian Sword Brothers become an order state predominantly situated over Estonian/Finnish speakers.

The collapse of Mongol power in Russia allows the Sword Brothers to expand again basically conquering all of Novgorod lands and other lands along the Daugava River, taking Polotsk and Vitebsk.

By good luck and some able grandmasters, the Sword Brothers order-state survives and prospers. The order increasingly relies on local Estonian auxiliaries to support the monk-knights. IOTL, Lithuania managed to expand deep into Russia in the 14th century, ITL it is the Sword Brothers. Possibly, they even succeed in incoporating ethnic Lithuania into their state.

When the reformation happens, the order secularizes and turns itself into a normal government and aristocracy. War with Sweden allows the order to conquer all of Finland, uniting most of the native speakers of northern Finno-Ugric together. Rise of native Russian power causes the Livonians to lose some power, but they stabilize the border and able to contain the incipient Great Russian state. Crucially, they form a border which retains the cities of Minsk, Tver, Smolensk, and Moldova.

The spread of western agricultural technology and crops cause a population boom of Finnish and Estonian speakers who eventually dominate the less sophisticated slavs in the northern interior who adopt the techniques and crops at a later date. Eventually, the German speaking upper class change to speaking Estonian at this time, much like the Norman and French speaking nobility of England eventually adopt English.

This super Livonia defends itself against the Swedes, Poles, and Russians. They lose some of the higher populated lands of Lithuanians and Russians, but keep and expand into the land we would consider NW Russia. The state increasingly identifies itself as an Estonian/Finnish people with sizable slavic minorities. The country is heavily dependent on grain imports from Poland, the Ukraine, and trade across the Baltic, but compensates by the fur trade and maritime trade.

During the rise of nationalism, Livonia renames itself Estonia, declares all speakers of northern Finno-Ugric to be speaking dialects of Estonian, considers itselt to be the nation-state of all Estonians, and the elites begin to spread education of a standard Estonian language, literature, etc. This alienates many of the remaining slavs in their lands, but also succeeds in Estoniazing many of them, especially those who live in areas where Estonian speakers already dominate.

Estonia has missed out of the colonial empires, but it's emphasis on trade turns it into a Baltic, Barents, and White Sea Netherlands. This makes Estonia very rich, and they are able to hold onto their land in wars against the larger populated Slavic states to its east and south.

The area we call Estonia would include OTL's Estonia, Latvia, Finland, a northern slice of Belarus, and much of NW Russia and Russia's northern coast. It is heavily dependent on food imports, but has a rich trading culture and known for its engineering skill and high tech products and computer services.

Historically, it's been the great power of northern Europe, but lost that status first to a united Scandinavia (which is its equal), and the far heavier populated Russia (with its capital at Kiev). Nowadays it is no longer a great power, but remains a wealthy and prosperous European state.
 
Thanks for the responses, everyone!

Any ideas for an earlier route to power? Could the Estonians create a kingdom and beat the Russians and Swedes to controlling Ingria and the Karelian isthmus?
 
Any ideas for an earlier route to power? Could the Estonians create a kingdom and beat the Russians and Swedes to controlling Ingria and the Karelian isthmus?
The problem is, at its root, economic. You can't get a regional power (for any value of "regional" and "power") without a population base and/or trade. It's extremely hard to support a decent population on such a poor soil in a cold clime (there is a reason why Novgorod never amounted to much in medieval Russian politics - its southern trade partners literally could starve it out, if they wanted to).
And trade routes go around modern Estonia (because trade routes in Northeastern Europe mean rivers, not roads, so Daugava and lake Pskov).
Only way I see is to make Finnic peoples a majority population in and around Aldeigjuborg. From that you can more or less plausibly grow a Finnic-speaking/*Estonian analogue to Pskov or even Novgorod trade republic.
 
Very hard, as even in the best circumstances there is simply not enough ethnic/cultural Finns and Estonians to be an Italian sized economy.

I'd start with the Livonian Sword Brothers as some have already stated. They are not defeated at the Battle of Saule in 1236. They avoid defeat and expand east along the Daugava River. They retain their independence and are not subsumed within the Teutonic Knights.

Over the next decades, the Sword Brothers expand north and east into more Finno-Ugric territory. They defeat the Novgorod Republic in a great battle in the mid 13th century. They gain the city of Pskov and advance north into Ingria. Future wars continue to push the border east, and the Sword Brothers are able to expand into Karelia and Finland. The Livonian Sword Brothers become an order state predominantly situated over Estonian/Finnish speakers.

The collapse of Mongol power in Russia allows the Sword Brothers to expand again basically conquering all of Novgorod lands and other lands along the Daugava River, taking Polotsk and Vitebsk.

By good luck and some able grandmasters, the Sword Brothers order-state survives and prospers. The order increasingly relies on local Estonian auxiliaries to support the monk-knights. IOTL, Lithuania managed to expand deep into Russia in the 14th century, ITL it is the Sword Brothers. Possibly, they even succeed in incoporating ethnic Lithuania into their state.

When the reformation happens, the order secularizes and turns itself into a normal government and aristocracy. War with Sweden allows the order to conquer all of Finland, uniting most of the native speakers of northern Finno-Ugric together. Rise of native Russian power causes the Livonians to lose some power, but they stabilize the border and able to contain the incipient Great Russian state. Crucially, they form a border which retains the cities of Minsk, Tver, Smolensk, and Moldova.

The spread of western agricultural technology and crops cause a population boom of Finnish and Estonian speakers who eventually dominate the less sophisticated slavs in the northern interior who adopt the techniques and crops at a later date. Eventually, the German speaking upper class change to speaking Estonian at this time, much like the Norman and French speaking nobility of England eventually adopt English.

This super Livonia defends itself against the Swedes, Poles, and Russians. They lose some of the higher populated lands of Lithuanians and Russians, but keep and expand into the land we would consider NW Russia. The state increasingly identifies itself as an Estonian/Finnish people with sizable slavic minorities. The country is heavily dependent on grain imports from Poland, the Ukraine, and trade across the Baltic, but compensates by the fur trade and maritime trade.

During the rise of nationalism, Livonia renames itself Estonia, declares all speakers of northern Finno-Ugric to be speaking dialects of Estonian, considers itselt to be the nation-state of all Estonians, and the elites begin to spread education of a standard Estonian language, literature, etc. This alienates many of the remaining slavs in their lands, but also succeeds in Estoniazing many of them, especially those who live in areas where Estonian speakers already dominate.

Estonia has missed out of the colonial empires, but it's emphasis on trade turns it into a Baltic, Barents, and White Sea Netherlands. This makes Estonia very rich, and they are able to hold onto their land in wars against the larger populated Slavic states to its east and south.

The area we call Estonia would include OTL's Estonia, Latvia, Finland, a northern slice of Belarus, and much of NW Russia and Russia's northern coast. It is heavily dependent on food imports, but has a rich trading culture and known for its engineering skill and high tech products and computer services.

Historically, it's been the great power of northern Europe, but lost that status first to a united Scandinavia (which is its equal), and the far heavier populated Russia (with its capital at Kiev). Nowadays it is no longer a great power, but remains a wealthy and prosperous European state.

This is brilliant! Would you be willing to do a map?
 
Maybe you have someone spread literacy to the Estonians early on, and they become the center of Finnic culture. They then unite many of the local Uralic peoples, and after a series of wars with the Slavs secure a easy path to the Urals. They then manage to assimilate the Uralic peoples of Siberia and north central Asia.
 
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