AH Challenge: Ruin the Lord of the Rings movies

pompejus · Jul 23, 2012

After reading rumours about a potential romance between the dwarf Kili and a made elf character played by the actress from Lost, I started wondering. Peter Jackson took some liberties with the source material from Lord of the Rings and made some dubious changes, like elves at Helms deep, Faramir's detour to Osgliath or the army of the death at Pelenor's field. So how much could Peter Jackson have changed and completely ruin the story?

For example:
Replace Legolas role in the fellowship with Arwen
Turn Merry and Sam's character in female characters to create some kind of romance with them and Pippin and Frodo
Turn Boromir into a standard villain (who was already working for Sauron/Saruman)
Remove Celeborn and create some sexual tension between Galadriel and Gandalf
etc.

Orry · Jul 23, 2012

You assume he did not already ruin it - especially the third film......

mowque · Jul 23, 2012

Elves at Helm's Deep.

I rest my case.

Edit: And the whole Ent sequence made no sense

deamy · Jul 23, 2012

Let Will Smith play Frodo.

Devolved · Jul 23, 2012

Get Michael Bay to direct. He would have got things moving along!

Beedok · Jul 23, 2012

mowque said:
Edit: And the whole Ent sequence made no sense

I liked the Ents. Ents are awesome.

Shaby · Jul 23, 2012

Devolved said:
Get Michael Bay to direct. He would have got things moving along!

Oh, humanity! The horrors! The horrors! At least we escaped that one.

Devolved · Jul 23, 2012

Shaby said:
Oh, humanity! The horrors! The horrors! At least we escaped that one.

How about a reboot?

If they can re boot Spiderman when we've only just finished watching Spiderman 3 then why not his

?

Clandango · Jul 23, 2012

mowque said:
And the whole Ent sequence made no sense

It was to take the place of the many attacks by living trees on various people.

Clandango · Jul 23, 2012

Devolved said:
How about a reboot?

If they can re boot Spiderman when we've only just finished watching Spiderman 3 then why not his?

They can start after The Hobbit, then make LOTR as either six movies or one.

mowque · Jul 23, 2012

Beedok said:
I liked the Ents. Ents are awesome.

Clandango said:
It was to take the place of the many attacks by living trees on various people.

Hoom hoom...I love the Ents. The Entmoot and such is probably one of my favorite parts of the books. The Ent sequence in the films made no logical sense however.

Clandango · Jul 23, 2012

The fight itself or the manner in which it was done?

mowque · Jul 23, 2012

Clandango said:
The fight itself or the manner in which it was done?

Let's go through it.

Book-

Merry and Pippin show up.

They act as a catalyst (in an already excited Fangorn) to cause the Ents to question Saurman.

Treebeard, already agitated, convinces the other Ents to march to war. Entmoot agrees to invade Isenguard.

Movie-

Hobbits show up.

They act as a catalyst (in an already excited Fangorn) to cause the Ents to question Saurman.

Entmoot votes to NOT go to war With Saurman (Treebeard is surprisingly ok with this, but whatever).

Treeebeard takes Hobbits home.

See destruction near Isenguard (That he must have seen dozens of times. I mean, he LIVES there).

He roars in outrage.

All ents appear suddenly and magically

Invade despite agreeing NOT AT LENGTH.

What the ?

Beedok · Jul 23, 2012

mowque said:
Let's go through it.

Book-

Merry and Pippin show up.

They act as a catalyst (in an already excited Fangorn) to cause the Ents to question Saurman.

Treebeard, already agitated, convinces the other Ents to march to war. Entmoot agrees to invade Isenguard.

Movie-

Hobbits show up.

They act as a catalyst (in an already excited Fangorn) to cause the Ents to question Saurman.

Entmoot votes to NOT go to war With Saurman (Treebeard is surprisingly ok with this, but whatever).

Treeebeard takes Hobbits home.

See destruction near Isenguard (That he must have seen dozens of times. I mean, he LIVES there).

He roars in outrage.

All ents appear suddenly and magically

Invade despite agreeing NOT AT LENGTH.

What the ?

The destruction was a Casus Beli.

mowque · Jul 23, 2012

Beedok said:
The destruction was a Casus Beli.

...So the Ents, which live and guard the forest had no idea that thousands of trees had been removed? Plus, so all the Entmoot stuff was pointless since Treebeard could just roar and undo it all? AND they were all just sitting by the edge of the destruction waiting to be called?

Face it, it makes no sense.

Shaby · Jul 23, 2012

mowque said:
Let's go through it.

*snip*

Ah, a fellow purist. If we got to direct the movie it would be like 10x as long and 1000x better. Mr. Jackson, however had to cater for wider market.

Beedok · Jul 23, 2012

mowque said:
...So the Ents, which live and guard the forest had no idea that thousands of trees had been removed? Plus, so all the Entmoot stuff was pointless since Treebeard could just roar and undo it all? AND they were all just sitting by the edge of the destruction waiting to be called?

Face it, it makes no sense.

They had said many times that they were lacking in ents. You could argue that the ents had been dealing with issues in other areas and hadn't gotten to that patch yet. And Treebeard's roar could have actually been a highly elequant speach in Entish. Then they ran very quickly.

Kalvan · Jul 23, 2012

The late '60s/early '70s version starring the Beatles as the four hobbits goes through as planned.

mowque · Jul 23, 2012

Beedok said:
They had said many times that they were lacking in ents. You could argue that the ents had been dealing with issues in other areas and hadn't gotten to that patch yet. And Treebeard's roar could have actually been a highly elequant speach in Entish. Then they ran very quickly.

This post made me chuckle. Thank you, I was taking it way too seriously for a moment there.

Beedok · Jul 23, 2012

mowque said:
This post made me chuckle. Thank you, I was taking it way too seriously for a moment there.

Your welcome.