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Old July 16th, 2012, 12:12 PM
Derek Jackson Derek Jackson is offline
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A modern Ferdinand assasination analogy

WI a US Vice Presidnet who had been hostile to Islamism were murdered in Afgansitan or India and there were suspciions that Pakistan was implicated?

By the way was there any risk that Oswald would look enough like a Soviet agent to have endangered World Peace?
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Old July 16th, 2012, 12:15 PM
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Well, Bush II said US has to go after Iraq because they tried to kill his father....
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Old July 16th, 2012, 02:56 PM
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Well, Bush II said US has to go after Iraq because they tried to kill his father....
Really, when?

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By the way was there any risk that Oswald would look enough like a Soviet agent to have endangered World Peace?
For it to be analogous, Oswald would have to have been a Soviet Agent, made a full confession and his accomplices all captured, all with a few hours of the assassination taking place.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 03:25 PM
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Really, when?
When what? When did he say that or when did Iraqis try to kill his father? As to former I don't have exact date but it was mentioned in late 02. As to the latter there was a plan to kill Bush I when he visited Kuwait in 1993. Attack was prevented and Iraqi intelligence was supposed to be behind it.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 04:10 PM
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What about the failed "Grenade attack" on Bush II in the Republic of Georgia?
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:00 PM
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What about the failed "Grenade attack" on Bush II in the Republic of Georgia?
Was that state sponsored?
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:17 PM
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Was that state sponsored?
I'm not really sure. It was definitely politically motivated and not some random nut though.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:38 PM
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Have President George W Bush visit Egypt or Saudi Arabia and get killed. Someone is getting bombed and invaded.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:41 PM
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The U.S. President gets killed by an illegal muslim Mexican hired by the North Korean/Iranian government?
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:48 PM
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The U.S. President gets killed by an illegal muslim Mexican hired by the North Korean/Iranian government?
The Axis of Evil supporting illegal immigration! Quick! Somebody invade China!
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Old July 16th, 2012, 06:45 PM
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Bush did make some comment about how "they tried to kill my dad," but that was a side issue.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 06:47 PM
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That would mean a horribly bungled assassination attempt which goes right at the last moment from a fluke killing an unpopular Grade A Jackass who happens to be really, really capable of alienating everyone except the leaders of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:04 PM
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Really, when?

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For it to be analogous, Oswald would have to have been a Soviet Agent, made a full confession and his accomplices all captured, all with a few hours of the assassination taking place.
It was under Clinton, and he bomb Iraq in retaliation.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:49 PM
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Back to the original post, I doubt that anything short of the assasination of a sitting US President - by itself - could be used by the US as the raison d'etre for a formal war or conquest against the perpetrating nation. Important to note that, while the preempted attempt against Bush I in Kuwait may well have put Iraq in Dubbya's sights from day one (and may have been his reason for the war), this was never used publically as justification for the US Invasion. As noted this happened while Clinton was president and was used to justify punitive bombing of Iraq, but not an invasion.

Also, emotionally, I suspect that killing a Crown Prince/Heir to the Throne carried far more emotional baggage to Austrians in 1914, than the assassination of any US Vice-President would today. Franz Ferdinand was the automatic sucessor to the King. When you kill the Crown Prince you are killing future Emperior. An American Vice President is merely an elected official that becomes president if a President can't finish his term. This is nothing like being a designated heir to a king.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 09:58 PM
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I suspect that the really big emotional shock would be a murder of a President elect
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