"1984" in a Victorious Nazi World

[Gaius Julius Magnus]

What would George Orwell's book be like in a world where Nazism was prevalent.

[Nilats]

Originally Posted by Juliua Magnus

What would George Orwell's book be like in a world where Nazism was prevalent.

Very similar as it doesn't take place in Eurasia but Oceania.

I predict a new nation would be added:

Eurasia

Eastasia

Oceania

Eurafrica

[Archangel Michael]

Originally Posted by Juliua Magnus

What would George Orwell's book be like in a world where Nazism was prevalent.

Are you asking if 1984 had been written in a Nazi victory timeline or if 1984 was set in a Nazi victory timeline?

[Gaius Julius Magnus]

Originally Posted by Archangel Michael

Are you asking if 1984 had been written in a Nazi victory timeline or if 1984 was set in a Nazi victory timeline?

If 1984 had been writen in a Nazi Victory timeline

[d32123]

Originally Posted by Juliua Magnus

If 1984 had been writen in a Nazi Victory timeline

Nazi victory as in ASB conquest of the Soviet Union and they're able to implement Generalplan Ost?

[Archangel Michael]

Originally Posted by Juliua Magnus

If 1984 had been writen in a Nazi Victory timeline

It probably wouldn't have been written.

But assuming that either Orwell and/or Britain are still Nazi-free, then not too many changes, except Ingsoc becomes much more fascisty.

[jkarr]

it wouldnt have being done...at least not by the nazis...although they loved destroying books and stuff, and were ont he <3 censorship panel, they also used their ties to the past and aped others cultures to do so, and it wouldnt being hard to not see the past as it was with hitlers plans for turning his hometown into the worlds largest museaum...so they wouldnt change history, least not in the way the book did

[Reichsadler]

Why would they write it? If the Axis won a global victory, it would basically become a reality.

[Gaius Julius Magnus]

Originally Posted by Reichsadler

Why would they write it? If the Axis won a global victory, it would basically become a reality.

The world is one where Britain made peace with the Nazis, keeping their indepedence and empire. Then the Nazis went on to war with the USSR

[Reichsadler]

Originally Posted by Juliua Magnus

The world is one where Britain made peace with the Nazis, keeping their indepedence and empire. Then the Nazis went on to war with the USSR

Nazi-USSR war is OTL.

[Gaius Julius Magnus]

Originally Posted by Reichsadler

Nazi-USSR war is OTL.

Only this time they weren't at war with Britain and the USA as well so they could devote their whole resources to the War in the East.

[d32123]

Originally Posted by Juliua Magnus

Only this time they weren't at war with Britain and the USA as well so they could devote their whole resources to the War in the East.

They'd still lose handily.

But lets say they win an ASB victory and are able to implement Generalplan Ost.
Then I could see 1984 being more about the Nazi system of dictatorship than the Soviet system.

[Nietzsche]

Originally Posted by d32123

They'd still lose handily.

But lets say they win an ASB victory and are able to implement Generalplan Ost.
Then I could see 1984 being more about the Nazi system of dictatorship than the Soviet system.

To be honest, whatever the fuck that system Orwell showed us was, it's somehow more horrible than either Stalinism or Nazism.

That is impressive.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I would have to go with those who said above that it would probably not have been written.
Eric Blair (George Orwell) was a dedicated socialist who had been greatly disillusioned by his experiences as a front line fighter in the Spanish Civil War. Some of the themes of 1984 and even some of the specific scenes are taken directly from what Blair witnessed in Barcelona when the Stalinists liquidated other parties and groups of the Left.
Homage to Barcelona ( a great book in its own right) seems in some places like an early draft of 1984.
Blair had seen the face of the enemy in Spain and it was not just on the Right. The actions of Stalin early in WW II and in Eastern Europe immediately after the war only made Blair more determined to show his fellow Leftists that what was happening in the Soviet Union was a negation of everything they believed in and not the road to some glorious socialist future.
Well, that's one man's opinion.

[Dean501]

Well Eurasia was a Soviet state that conquered Europe post WW2, or so says Oceanian propaganda and the preface of the book. So, if the Nazis had won WW2 in TTL then Oceania and Eastasia would still be formed, but so Europe, instead of being dominated by Eurasia would instead be controlled by the an African-European post Nazi state from around the OTL Russian border west, and much of Russia and the middle east would be contested between this state and Eurasia. Although, Eurasia would probably just end up being absorbed by the two hyperstate Eastasia and Eurafrica? (Or Maybe Europafrika like the German words from Europe and Africa?) early in it's existence before the perpetual war.