the united states of east asia.

[radical_neutural]

1945:united states defeats japan in WWII, japan and south korea become american states.
1950: korean war, taken much more seriously, as an invasion of american terriory
1951:russian atomic test failed.
1953: chinesse defeated, china devided into american states, chinese communists flee to russia.
1959: japanese national gaurd invades and anexes mongolia without permission from washington, begining of tension between north american and asian states.
1961: east asian states acting unilateraly invade and anex soviet central asian republics.
1962: asian states declare indepence from united states calling themselves "the united states of east asia", develop atomic bomb, swears to avenge hiroshima and nagasaki begining of cold war.
1966-72: revolutions across eastern europe, resulted from infighting between chinese and russian communists, USA and USEA compete in founding democratic nations.
1973: soviet republics declare independence, stating with lithuania.
1974: soviet union becomes russian federation, declares democratic government, and neutrality in cold war.

[Nicole]

Your original POD is implausible, America had no interest in annexing Japan (well, there was probably a little- probably on the same level as modern "annex Canada" supporters), and South Korea even less so.

[radical_neutural]

Originally Posted by Imajin

Your original POD is implausible, America had no interest in annexing Japan (well, there was probably a little- probably on the same level as modern "annex Canada" supporters), and South Korea even less so.

yes, in this timeline. the POD comes when the truman admistration becomes confident that this will make america stronger seeing the pure value of the japanese people(just look at the meji era, imperial japan and the economy of modern japan) the south korea one was to protect japan from chinese expansionism. also, someone contiue my timeline, i want to see what you guys come up with.

[Nicole]

Originally Posted by radical_neutural

yes, in this timeline. the POD comes when the truman admistration becomes confident that this will make america stronger seeing the pure value of the japanese people(just look at the meji era, imperial japan and the economy of modern japan) the south korea one was to protect japan from chinese expansionism.

But the Japanese would be incredibly hostile to such a thing, and you have revolts almost constantly.

In addition, Japan's population is such that about a third of the representatives in the House would end up Japanese... As the amount of house seats is capped, all other states would lose seats... thus politicians lose their jobs as districts are combined... and thus the bill is voted down.

[radical_neutural]

Originally Posted by Imajin

But the Japanese would be incredibly hostile to such a thing, and you have revolts almost constantly.

In addition, Japan's population is such that about a third of the representatives in the House would end up Japanese... As the amount of house seats is capped, all other states would lose seats... thus politicians lose their jobs as districts are combined... and thus the bill is voted down.

they do become hostail to this. hence the independence andcold war.

[Nicole]

Originally Posted by radical_neutural

they do become hostail to this. hence the independence andcold war.

Well, after the Chinese annexation the demographics are skewed to the point that it would be the USA secedeing, as the Chinese would control the country.

[radical_neutural]

Originally Posted by Imajin

Well, after the Chinese annexation the demographics are skewed to the point that it would be the USA secedeing, as the Chinese would control the country.

in the 1950's? ever heard of racism? an amendment was passed the left the asians with less seats (to make it more palatable for the americans). as for the US conquering china in 3 years (i know you're gonna ask this next) the united states military strength would be much greater (they are fighting for their own soil, plus their are japanese troops, and the japanese imperial forces where intergrated into the US army). plus the use of atomic weapons is threatened, the soviet union tests i't bomb much later and fails so the US can do this.

[Nicole]

Originally Posted by radical_neutural

united states military strength would be much greater (they are fighting for their own soil, plus their are japanese troops, and the japanese imperial forces where intergrated into the US amry). plus the use of atomic weapons is threatened, the soviet union tests i't bomb much later and fails so the US can do this.

You don't understand- East Asia would have no reason to secede, they effectively control the House and the Presidency. Depending on the number of Chinese and Japanese states, they'd have a good chance at owning the Senate. Basically, the government would be controlled by the new states.

[radical_neutural]

Originally Posted by Imajin

You don't understand- East Asia would have no reason to secede, they effectively control the House and the Presidency. Depending on the number of Chinese and Japanese states, they'd have a good chance at owning the Senate. Basically, the government would be controlled by the new states.

read above edit.

[Nicole]

Originally Posted by radical_neutural

read above edit.

The constitution says no state's equal representation can be denied- even if there is an admendment process- without the approval of the state.

[radical_neutural]

Originally Posted by Imajin

The constitution says no state's equal representation can be denied- even if there is an admendment process- without the approval of the state.

forced aproval.

[Straha]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And how do you plan on accomplishing all that without mass genocide?

[CalBear]

Are you, in any way, familiar with the U.S. Constitution?

How about the United States of America?


May I suggest that you look at the Alien Space Bat section of the site. It is the proper place for these kind of utterly impossible TL's. If you post them in this forum the results will probably not be positive.

BTW: Welcome to the site.

[Straha]

Originally Posted by CalBear

Are you, in any way, familiar with the U.S. Constitution?

How about the United States of America?


May I suggest that you look at the Alien Space Bat section of the site. It is the proper place for these kind of utterly impossible TL's. If you post them in this forum the results will probably not be positive.

BTW: Welcome to the site.

Yeah. I'm showing him that.

[JimmyJimJam]

It was cheaper and more efficent to save satellite states during the cold war, as opposed to colonies, I think.

[Tyr]

The US conquering and permanently annexing Japan, China and Korea is unlikely but making them states? Doubt that would ever happen.

[Floid]

Have you ever heard of the Atlantic Charter, radical_neutral?

[radical_neutural]

stop rubbing it in, i'm an idiot ok?