Keep English language in England

tom

tom

What is the latest non-ASB PoD for an ATL where the English language is restricted to England? The Spanish Armada, perhaps? Or was the Spanish Armada an 16th Century Sealion?
 

Elfwine

tom said:
What is the latest non-ASB PoD for an ATL where the English language is restricted to England? The Spanish Armada, perhaps? Or was the Spanish Armada an 16th Century Sealion?
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It's not a Sealion, but it won't restrict English to England. Ireland, Scotland (to some extent), Wales . . .

Spain can, at most, knock England out of the List of Problems Spain Is Facing At The Moment.
 
LSCatilina

LSCatilina

tom said:
What is the latest non-ASB PoD for an ATL where the English language is restricted to England? The Spanish Armada, perhaps? Or was the Spanish Armada an 16th Century Sealion?
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Mmm...I think a good Pod would be a surviving Danelaw and Jorvik.
England being divided between Anglo-Saxons and Brittano-Danes would not only refrain the possibilities of English to widespread, but even could lead to the formation of a Scot-equivalent in northern England.
 
Grey Wolf

Grey Wolf

Donor
The Scottish Armada itself can't be seen as a definitive PoD since you then need to plan on the development of the next 400 years.

One could see the timeframe being the best for the PoD since an independent Scotland will probably continue to develo8 Scots as a language rather than a dialect, and if we can break Ireland off, then apart from the Pale, Irish Gaelic can survive as the dominant language without the plantations

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 

Gallowglass

Wasn't Scotland officially English-speaking at Court from the 12th century? The east coast spoke English almost entirely, it was only the west and highlands that spoke gaelic.

Even with a surviving Danelaw, you've still got pockets of English-speakers in Lothian and the rump-Northumbria.
 
Grey Wolf

Grey Wolf

Donor
Gallowglass said:
Wasn't Scotland officially English-speaking at Court from the 12th century? The east coast spoke English almost entirely, it was only the west and highlands that spoke gaelic.

Even with a surviving Danelaw, you've still got pockets of English-speakers in Lothian and the rump-Northumbria.
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I was postulating Scots (as in Scottish English) surviving as distinct from English English.

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
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