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Old June 6th, 2012, 06:51 AM
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WI: Bill Clinton killed in 1994

On 12 September 1994 a crazy guy with a stolen Cessna crashed his plane onto the White House lawn. The President wasn't there at the time, so he was never in danger.

But let's say he was, and the pilot has better aim and hits the White House, killing the President. We now have President Gore. How does this affect the 90s?
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Old June 6th, 2012, 12:15 PM
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Gore probably governs simelarly to Clinton. No idea who his Veep might be-Dick Gephart maybe?

Clinton dying 2 months before the mid-terms means that the 'Contract With America' is probably delayed somewhat.

This also means that in 1996, it'll be the ultimate corrisma clash-Gore verses Dole! and you thought the 96 election season was boring in OTL? Never the less, the economy is too good for there to be any change in the Whitehouse and Gore still wins.

No Clinton means no Monica scandle-and therefore no intreague in to the activities of the speaker of the house-so Newt remains Republican House leader for a while longer.

He might try the contract in 1998-and without the attempted impeachment of Clinton causing people to ralley around the president, the GOP might be successful, only 4 years later.

Not sure who'd run in 2000. The sympathy boost might just be enough to make Ann Richards hang on to the Governer's mantion in Texas, in which case we can rule out Bush as the 2000 nominee.

Assuming Gephart is the VP, he probably gets the 2000 nomination, though I guess it's possible for Hillary to pull an RFK 68 in 2000 if she gets herself elected to something after Bill's death.
If Gephart is the nominee (which is more than likely in this scenario), I think he'd probably lose to Bush, Mckaine or whoever the GOP nominee is.
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Old June 6th, 2012, 08:37 PM
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What about 9/11? Any potential butterflies in the War on Terror?
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Old June 6th, 2012, 09:00 PM
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Gore probably governs simelarly to Clinton. No idea who his Veep might be-Dick Gephart maybe?

Clinton dying 2 months before the mid-terms means that the 'Contract With America' is probably delayed somewhat.

This also means that in 1996, it'll be the ultimate corrisma clash-Gore verses Dole! and you thought the 96 election season was boring in OTL? Never the less, the economy is too good for there to be any change in the Whitehouse and Gore still wins.

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NOt sure about these two.

Newt had been working on the taking the HOuse for some time. Don't know exactly when he hit on the Contract idea, but probably more than 2 months lead time.

And with as weak a candidate as Gore you might get some bigger names off the GOP sidelines, to give it a shot.
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Old June 6th, 2012, 10:04 PM
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contract or no contract the sympathy vote will ensure democratic victories in 1994. Gingrich would probably save it for 96 or 98
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Old June 6th, 2012, 10:28 PM
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contract or no contract the sympathy vote will ensure democratic victories in 1994. Gingrich would probably save it for 96 or 98
That's pretty much what I was thinking. Newt would also be clever enough in this scenario not to try anything as agressive as the contract 2 months after the president's death, because he'd know it'd go down like a cup of cold sick.

I do think that whoever the GOP nominate in 1996, the economy will help Gore defeat them. That's my reasonning behind Dole still clinching the nod ITTL-the economy isn't going to be any worse off due to Gore being in office and there will still be a small sympathy boost over Clinton's death.
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Old June 7th, 2012, 03:55 AM
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I'm not sure if it would work. An explosive-laden Cessna might do damage, but an ordinary plane? Not as likely. After all, the guy who tried to take out the IRS in Austin only killed one person, and the building was rebuilt.
As for this, it will certainly raise alertness about Kamikaze aircraft...though it could butterfly the Bojinka plot into something worse...
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Old June 7th, 2012, 04:29 AM
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This reduces the Republican landslide of 1994. Gore defeats Dole in 1996. w Without the scandal the Democrat wins in 2000. he He or she users 9 11 to win in 2004. A Republican wins in the bad economic times of 2008.
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Old June 7th, 2012, 04:50 AM
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9/11 will certainly be butterflied away. The use of aircraft as suicide weapons will be demonstrated, so the CIA and FBI will take plots involving them more seriously. If this lone pilot is in any way connected to the militia movement, maybe a harsher crackdown on domestic extremists is in the works? The government has to seem like it's doing something to combat the 'movement that killed the President', as it may be called, and so some form of the Patriot Act might come about.
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