AH Euro 2012 Football Championship

[Alex Richards]

The Federal government of the 9 Republics wishes to express only that we have some concerns over the safety of our citizens and team if the cup were hosted in the our Bosnian neighbours due to the actions of some irredentalist groups within the country.

Beyond that, we would like to wish all nations the best of luck and an enjoyable event.

[Pwn0r]

when we have 24 Teams, will we have 4 groups with 6 teams or 6 Groups with 4 Teams.

And then will we have a quarterfinal or a round of 16?

I suggest 6 Groups and round of 16

[AlexLines]

Originally Posted by Pwn0r

I suggest 6 Groups and round of 16

Seems good to me

[Pwn0r]

Then 1st, 2nd and the 4 best in 3rd Place in Ro16

[Pangur]

Originally Posted by Pwn0r

Then 1st, 2nd and the 4 best in 3rd Place in Ro16

Sounds familiar

[V-J]

I see.

Do I have to name my squad now?

[Batintrenche]

Originally Posted by V-J

I see.

Do I have to name my squad now?

Probably should soon But we should try and get 6 (5?) more teams before anything.

[Batintrenche]

Originally Posted by Martin23230

And the map, as I see it:

I'll be the first to admit your map looks better than mine

[PiratePartyist]

Team: Bulgarian Federation
Nickname:?
Home Stadium: Sabru Saracöglu Stadium, Istanbul
Home Kit: Yellow with a green half-moon and star in the middle, the half-moon stretching from throat to stomach.
Away Kit: Green with a white half-moon and star.

Area: Buglaria, Turkey, Thrace, Cyprus, North Syria.

[Atreus]

Home and Away kits for The Duchy of Toulouse...

[Batintrenche]

Originally Posted by o.a.musimon

Team: Bulgarian Federation
Nickname:?
Home Stadium: Sabru Saracöglu Stadium, Istanbul
Home Kit: Yellow with a green half-moon and star in the middle, the half-moon stretching from throat to stomach.
Away Kit: Green with a white half-moon and star.

Area: Buglaria, Turkey, Thrace, Cyprus, North Syria.

How does this look?

[PiratePartyist]

Cool.

Team: Democratic Republic of Algeria (in Reality a Juche-like State!)
Justification: Algeria was invaded by the Spanish Empire and thouroughly Europeanised, so that the majority is now Spanish. Thus it is in UEFA.

Home Stadium: 29 August Stadium

Home Kit: Red with a white star in the middle.
Away kit: Black with a red star.

[Atreus]

Originally Posted by o.a.musimon

Team: Democratic Republic of Algeria

I think that, for now, we're trying to keep it to one team per person.

[Martin23230]

Originally Posted by Pwn0r

when we have 24 Teams, will we have 4 groups with 6 teams or 6 Groups with 4 Teams.

And then will we have a quarterfinal or a round of 16?

I suggest 6 Groups and round of 16

I would keep it the same way they did the World Cup when they had 24 teams (for example)*, as noted we have 6 groups of 4 teams, so six games in each group, then 1st and 2nd from each group would pass through, along with the four best 3rd place groups. That would make a Round of 16, then Quaters, Semis, 3rd-place and Final. I think that makes 52 games in total.

*We'd still go with more modern conventions, e.g. 3 points for a win

Originally Posted by Batintrenche

How does this look?

Reasonable to me, I was just saying we needed an Ottoman-esq team to fill up the Balkans. So we're now up to 19 (20 including Portugal).

Originally Posted by Atreus

I think that, for now, we're trying to keep it to one team per person.

Indeed, though if someone else wanted to nominate Algeria or something similar I wouldn't see anything wrong with that. If we're not full in about 24 hours (arbitrary!) then I think we can open it up, but if someone takes Algeria and Portugal then there would only be three spots left.

[Atreus]

Originally Posted by Martin23230

I would keep it the same way they did the World Cup when they had 24 teams (for example)*, as noted we have 6 groups of 4 teams, so six games in each group, then 1st and 2nd from each group would pass through, along with the four best 3rd place groups. That would make a Round of 16, then Quaters, Semis, 3rd-place and Final. I think that makes 52 games in total.

*We'd still go with more modern conventions, e.g. 3 points for a win

IIRC the Euros are actually adopting this format starting in 2016....

I think someone suggested 4 groups of 6, though, and I wonder if that might be easier, simply because then we don't need to muck around with third place teams or anything like that (in particular, I'm not sure how we'd seed the second round brackets; the world cup, where 2 teams per group progress, is simpler; how do we fit in the 3rd place teams?). Top two from each group progress on to the quarterfinals. By my count that would mean 15 games per group, plus quarter-finals, semi's, 3rd-place, and the final, so... 68 games, which is a bit more work, but just throwing it out there.

[AlexLines]

Originally Posted by Atreus

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Personally I prefer the 6 group/4 team affair because I think otherwise there are too many group games and a lot of these games will be pointless (some teams will already know they're fate but still have to play extra games)

In regards to how they would seed into the knockout round, we could always use the 1982 World Cup as an example of how to deal with the extra, third placed teams.
But I'm open to any ideas.

[el grapadura]

Originally Posted by Atreus

IIRC the Euros are actually adopting this format starting in 2016....

I think someone suggested 4 groups of 6, though, and I wonder if that might be easier, simply because then we don't need to muck around with third place teams or anything like that (in particular, I'm not sure how we'd seed the second round brackets; the world cup, where 2 teams per group progress, is simpler; how do we fit in the 3rd place teams?).

We can just use FIFA's formula for this:

A2 v. C2 = Winner 1
D1 v. 3rd from B, E or F = Winner 2
B1 v. 3rd from A, C or D = Winner 3
F1 v. E2 = Winner 4
E1 v. D2 = Winner 5
C1 v. 3rd from A, B or F = Winner 6
B2 v. F2 = Winner 7
A1 v. 3rd from C, D or E = Winner 8

[Baconheimer]

Herre s a map-mod for me.

[Atreus]

Originally Posted by AlexLines

Personally I prefer the 6 group/4 team affair because I think otherwise there are too many group games and a lot of these games will be pointless (some teams will already know they're fate but still have to play extra games)

In regards to how they would seed into the knockout round, we could always use the 1982 World Cup as an example of how to deal with the extra, third placed teams.
But I'm open to any ideas.

Good point about the 6 team groups. As for using 1982 as an example... I would go along with that, but I think FIFA moved away from that system because it increased the number of potentially-meaningless games, and at least one team in each 3-team group will lose control of it's fate before the final matchday. So, we could make this work, but since it's the same number of matches as the round-of-16 approach...

Originally Posted by el grapadura

We can just use FIFA's formula for this:

A2 v. C2 = Winner 1
D1 v. 3rd from B, E or F = Winner 2
B1 v. 3rd from A, C or D = Winner 3
F1 v. E2 = Winner 4
E1 v. D2 = Winner 5
C1 v. 3rd from A, B or F = Winner 6
B2 v. F2 = Winner 7
A1 v. 3rd from C, D or E = Winner 8

Thanks. I wasn't sure if there was a system for this process...

[Batintrenche]

Originally Posted by Baconheimer

Herre s a map-mod for me.

Sorry whaaaaaaa....?

Originally Posted by Martin23230

Reasonable to me, I was just saying we needed an Ottoman-esq team to fill up the Balkans. So we're now up to 19 (20 including Portugal)

Might as well include Portugal at this point I think. If he doesn't show up to make his squad we can always do it for him.