TL-191 United States Presidential Elections Results Thread

[Abhakhazia]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

1940 US Presidential Election

From the ATL Wikipedia page:]

Ok, first off, Republicans are a Midwest Regional Party, they aren't going to get votes west of the Rockies, East of the Appalachians and South of the Ohio.

The states that you have Republican, would probably be Democrat.



Also, Turquoise Blue, would you mind if I went ahead and did CSA retrospective presidential election, using TL:191-Filling in the Gaps?
Maybe we could work together a little bit.

[Trotsky]

Originally Posted by Abhakhazia

Always happy to help. I remember Chester Martin saying in the election "all Taft needs is California"

What Cincinnatus Driver said was that Taft needed the West Coast, having won California but losing Oregon and Washington and the election.

[Abhakhazia]

Originally Posted by Trotsky

What Cincinnatus Driver said was that Taft needed the West Coast, having won California but losing Oregon and Washington and the election.

I looked it up.
You're right.
Sorry for being confusing here.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Abhakhazia

Ok, first off, Republicans are a Midwest Regional Party, they aren't going to get votes west of the Rockies, East of the Appalachians and South of the Ohio.

The states that you have Republican, would probably be Democrat.



Also, Turquoise Blue, would you mind if I went ahead and did CSA retrospective presidential election, using TL:191-Filling in the Gaps?
Maybe we could work together a little bit.

These are alternate TL-191 elections, so we can expect a slightly different spread than what we can only guess would appear in the canon TL-191.

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Abhakhazia

Also, Turquoise Blue, would you mind if I went ahead and did CSA retrospective presidential election, using TL:191-Filling in the Gaps?
Maybe we could work together a little bit.

Sure. Would be interesting.

[Turquoise Blue]

OK. When we do the 1868 and 1944 elections, those are the choices. I need help with the blanks and the ones in question marks.

1868
Horatio Seymour/Thomas F. Bayard? (Democratic)
William Seward/????? (Republican)


1944
Charles W. La Follette/Jim Curley (Socialist)
Thomas E. Dewey/Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
Harold Stassen/Styles Bridges? (Republican)

[Abhakhazia]

Here's the link to the Confederate elections.

[Turquoise Blue]

The 1868 and 1944 elections will be up today.

[Turquoise Blue]

Alright. After the End don't exactly supply me with nominations... And, due to Stassen's reputation here, I made him the Rep. nomination here again. Is that OK?

1948

Thomas E. Dewey/Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
Henry A. Wallace/Norman Thomas? (Socialist)
Harold Stassen/Styles Bridges? (Republican)

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Alright. After the End don't exactly supply me with nominations... And, due to Stassen's reputation here, I made him the Rep. nomination here again. Is that OK?

1948

Thomas E. Dewey/Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
Henry A. Wallace/Norman Thomas? (Socialist)
Harold Stassen/Styles Bridges? (Republican)

The Turtledove Wiki does indicate that Stassen was the Republican candidate for the 1944 election.

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

The Turtledove Wiki does indicate that Stassen was the Republican candidate for the 1944 election.

Yep, that is why I placed him there, and that is why I made him run again, because the Republicans gained a lot of states in the TL-191 1944 election.

[Turquoise Blue]

Its Norman Thomas and Styles Bridges that I am iffy on, in 1948 (latter also 1944), and Thomas F. Bayard in 1868. Could you advise me on this?

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Yep, that is why I placed him there, and that is why I made him run again, because the Republicans gained a lot of states in the TL-191 1944 election.

Oh, sorry, I had thought you were talking about the 1944 election. I have no objection to Stassen running in 1948 as well.

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

Oh, sorry, I had thought you were talking about the 1944 election. I have no objection to Stassen running in 1948 as well.

Alright. Could you advise me on Thomas, Bridges and Bayard, in my post above yours?

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Alright. Could you advise me on Thomas, Bridges and Bayard, in my post above yours?

OK, I'm no expert on this topic, mind you, but I have no objections to any of them either. I see why you picked Wallace and Thomas (both ran for president in 1948 in OTL), though I'm not sure how you decided who would be the presidential candidate and who the VP. I'm not saying it should be one way or the other; I'm just curious, is all. Bridges seems as good a candidate as any, though again I'm wondering why you picked him, as he didn't run in 1948 in OTL. I see why you went with Bayard (Filling the Gaps).

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

OK, I'm no expert on this topic, mind you, but I have no objections to any of them either. I see why you picked Wallace and Thomas (both ran for president in 1948 in OTL), though I'm not sure how you decided who would be the presidential candidate and who the VP. I'm not saying it should be one way or the other; I'm just curious, is all. Bridges seems as good a candidate as any, though again I'm wondering why you picked him, as he didn't run in 1948 in OTL. I see why you went with Bayard (Filling the Gaps).

After the End has Wallace run for President, so he became the Prez nomination. Since the Socialists here are more powerful, I chose Norman Thomas as Wallace's VP. Styles Bridges was a random choice, really. He ran in 1940, so I thought, "Eh, why not?" and made him Stassen's VP.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

After the End has Wallace run for President, so he became the Prez nomination. Since the Socialists here are more powerful, I chose Norman Thomas as Wallace's VP. Styles Bridges was a random choice, really. He ran in 1940, so I thought, "Eh, why not?" and made him Stassen's VP.

How about Earl Warren instead of Bridges? It'd be kind of funny, since in Worldwar, Stassen was Warren's VP in the 1964 election. Warren also was a Republican presidential nominee in OTL 1948. IIRC, Warren was a relatively liberal Republican in OTL, so he might fit better as a Republican in TL-191 than as a Democrat. (Republicans are moderates at this time in TL-191, correct?)

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

How about Earl Warren instead of Bridges? It'd be kind of funny, since in Worldwar, Stassen was Warren's VP in the 1964 election. Warren also was a Republican presidential nominee in OTL 1948. IIRC, Warren was a relatively liberal Republican in OTL, so he might fit better as a Republican in TL-191 than as a Democrat. (Republicans are moderates at this time in TL-191, correct?)

I like that idea. Stassen/Warren '44 and '48... Alright.

[Turquoise Blue]

Well, the 1868 and 1944 elections are up! Vote!

[Turquoise Blue]

OK. The 1868 (Republican) and 1944 (Socialist) elections are pretty much finished, since the leaders are now obvious. Election results up tomorrow. Feel free to vote if you haven't.

For 1872 and 1948, here are the choices.

1872
Thomas F. Bayard/William S. Groesbeck (Democratic)
Schuyler Colfax/Charles F. Adams (Republican)

1948
Thomas E. Dewey/Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
Henry A. Wallace/Darlington Hoopes (Socialist)
Harold Stassen/Styles Bridges (Republican)