Retrospective US Presidential Election: 1968

[Plumber]

Originally Posted by RogueBeaver

In the summer of '68, labor's own polls showed that 25% of PA and 32% of CT unionists (H/T Teddy White) would vote Wallace. As a whole, Wallace never exceeded 16% of union votes outside Dixie- that at his peak in mid-September. Still it was a challenge that had to be faced down if HHH wanted to hold the Rust Belt.

Some stats from Big Labor's GOTV operation (also from TMP '68)

Total expenses: $10 million [$66 billion]
Registration: 4.6 million voters
115 million leaflets distributed, 20% of which were strictly anti-Wallace.

For that Humphrey could thank LBJ- gutting the DNC.


Otherwise, yeah, Wallace hurt HHH in the North and Nixon in the South.

Ah, okay thanks. Haven't gotten around to finishing Teddy White's '68 book yet.

[blindgoose]

This is probably the last time I'll vote for the SWP as by the next election, their shitty line on Cuba becomes particularly entrenched and Jack Barnes becomes the new leader, turning the SWP into what could basically be termed the American-wing of the Cuban Communist Party.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by blindgoose

This is probably the last time I'll vote for the SWP as by the next election, their shitty line on Cuba becomes particularly entrenched and Jack Barnes becomes the new leader, turning the SWP into what could basically be termed the American-wing of the Cuban Communist Party.

Yeah, I was wondering why Halstead was getting so much more support than Blomen.

[Stolengood]

What's the difference, really?

[Dean501]

Why did 5 people vote for the guy that called for "Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever!" and blocked blacks from entering the University of Alabama? With a running mate that wanted to arbitrarily nuke Vietnam.

[Tim Thomason]

Originally Posted by Deano1001

Why did 5 people vote for the guy that called for "Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever!" and blocked blacks from entering the University of Alabama? With a running mate that wanted to arbitrarily nuke Vietnam.

Well, he joined the Light Side later on. Maybe they all just threw their votes away. Or, I guess, they could be Gary Sinise fans.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Tim Thomason

Well, he joined the Light Side later on. Maybe they all just threw their votes away. Or, I guess, they could be Gary Sinise fans.

You know, I find it kinda weird when movie celebrities turn out to be Republican. I suppose it's because the stereotype is that Hollywood is filled with liberals. Sinise is, and I think Bruce Willis too. Wouldn't have guessed it.

[vultan]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

You know, I find it kinda weird when movie celebrities turn out to be Republican. I suppose it's because the stereotype is that Hollywood is filled with liberals. Sinise is, and I think Bruce Willis too. Wouldn't have guessed it.

So is Clint Eastwood, Adam Sandler, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger...

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by vultan

So is Clint Eastwood, Adam Sandler, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger...

All those actually make sense, except for Sandler. That I wouldn't have expected.

[Dean501]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

All those actually make sense, except for Sandler. That I wouldn't have expected.

Well Eastwood is a econmically moderate right, socially liberal. I expect Sandler to be similar.

[Stolengood]

I thought Eastwood was a Democrat?

[Paul V McNutt]

Originally Posted by Deano1001

Why did 5 people vote for the guy that called for "Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever!" and blocked blacks from entering the University of Alabama? With a running mate that wanted to arbitrarily nuke Vietnam.

I come to think there are bigots on this board. Thurmond an Fillmore got votes too.

[Ariosto]

Originally Posted by Deano1001

Why did 5 people vote for the guy that called for "Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever!" and blocked blacks from entering the University of Alabama? With a running mate that wanted to arbitrarily nuke Vietnam.

Originally Posted by Paul V McNutt

I come to think there are bigots on this board. Thurmond an Fillmore got votes too.

Originally Posted by Ariosto

Victory in Vietnam (ie Linebacker II 4 years early), Reform of the Great Society rather than dismantlement, Law and Order (Given the chaos at the time, I would be favoring peace in general, despite the more racially toned Law and Order Platform Wallace ran on)

The only other person here I would even be open to voting for would be Nixon, but I really don't care for him; think clothes-pin second preference.

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Iron's, my brother, is quite far to the right yes. Definitely not a Nazi however. Thurmond was intended as a protest vote given the more Liberal nature of the other candidates.

What I said in the above quote.

That at least answers two.

[Plumber]

Originally Posted by Stolengood

I thought Eastwood was a Democrat?

No, but he's not really a Republican anymore.

He registered as a Republican for Ike, was a Nixon fan until Watergate, but was against the Korean, Vietnam and Iraq Wars. As the Republicans went more to the right, he started calling himself a "libertarian" (not a Libertarian, mind you) and has endorsed Democrats more frequently now. He did endorse McCain, but the two have been friends since the '70s.

The first Bush briefly considered making Mayor Eastwood VP as well.

[jpj1421]

Kelsey Grammar is also a Republican which I found odd to hear as I will always see him as Dr. Frasier Crane, the most snobby intellectual elitist around.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by jpj1421

Kelsey Grammar is also a Republican which I found odd to hear as I will always see him as Dr. Frasier Crane, the most snobby intellectual elitist around.

Wow, same here. That is strange.

Now I want to know about David Hyde Pierce.

[Stolengood]

Kelsey Grammer was also in that dreadful American Carol some years back; methinks he's hard-right, unfortunately...

David Hyde Pierce is gay, so I'm guessing he's a Democrat.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Stolengood

Kelsey Grammer was also in that dreadful American Carol some years back; methinks he's hard-right, unfortunately...

David Hyde Pierce is gay, so I'm guessing he's a Democrat.

AFAIK, there are gay Republicans, though why they're Republican I do not know. Libertarian I could understand, but not Republican.

[Abhakhazia]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

AFAIK, there are gay Republicans, though why they're Republican I do not know. Libertarian I could understand, but not Republican.

Economic issues, some social issues such as abortion.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by jpj1421

Kelsey Grammar is also a Republican which I found odd to hear as I will always see him as Dr. Frasier Crane, the most snobby intellectual elitist around.

He's also Sideshow Bob.

"Your guilty consciences may force you to vote Democratic, but secretly you yearn for a cold-hearted Republican who’ll cut taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king! You need me, Springfield!"