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Old April 12th, 2012, 08:06 PM
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Alternate USA Map Request

I would like to request four alternate USA maps in PNG, preferably the same size, but all based on the same map, so it should be relatively straight-forward. I have created this map, but it's kind of rough, and I'm hoping someone could help clean it up a bit, as I'm looking to use it for a timeline going from 1783 to 2012. I'd like to request four maps, using the attached map, but going all the way to the Arctic (including Baffin Island, etc.) for North America:

Map 1: USA at 1783
-This map, but going to the Arctic and Pacific, showing the French, Spanish, and British claims in UCS. Is the northern border correct for Rupert's Land / Quebec?
-aside from the USA having OTL Province of Quebec, Nova Scotia, Bermuda, and Bahamas, the UK still holds Rupert's Land and Newfoundland Island, France holds Cuba, and all other island possessions are OTL.

Map 2: USA at 1800
-OTL 13 colonies as states, except Maine's border is like this map
-Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and PEI are one state of Nova Scotia
-Quebec is from the Ottawa River east to Lac Saint Jean, following the Saguenay River south into the St. Lawrence, and the Saint Felicien north to Rupert's Land border; from Maine's northernmost point north to the St. Lawrence is the southern portion's border.
-Northwestern Territory is the OTL Northwestern Territory including west of Ottawa River north of the Great Lakes; east of Quebec is Newfoundland Territory, and Indiana Territory as OTL
-Vermont, Kentucky, Tennessee are as OTL.
-Rupert's Land and Newfoundland Island are British, Louisiana and Cuba are French, Spain has otherwise its OTL colonies.

Map 3: USA at 1900

-OTL Lower 48, except Maine's border follows this map; the US borders Rupert's Land to the north, which includes the Hudson Bay drainage basin west to the Pacific along the 49° parallel, except for the one state north to the 52°, and OTL Alaska's border.
-Nova Scotia (OTL Nova Scotia and New Brunswick)
-Prince Edward Island is called St John's Island (is a state)
-Michigan has only the lower part, not the upper peninsula
-Columbia state is north of Washington, from the 49th to 52nd parallel, like in Union and Liberty.
-"Canada" is the Ontario Peninsula north to Lake Nipissing, following the Mattawa River to the Ottawa River
-Manitoulin state would be Michigan's Upper Peninsula plus the remainder of the land north of the Great Lakes
-Newfoundland Island is British territory, but east of Quebec is also Newfoundland Territory (US territory)
-St. Pierre et Miquelon belong to Quebec state.
-Cuba is a state, as is the Bahamas (including Turks and Caicos), and Bermuda, Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico are territories.
-Rio Grande is a state
-Durango (OTL Durango and Sinaloa) is a state
-California's southern border is straight, and doesn't include San Diego
-South California (all Baja California, Chihuahua, Sonora), capital is San Diego
-Virgin Islands (US and British combined) is a state
-Arizona and New Mexico territories have their pre-Gadsden southern border.

Foreign Countries/Territories:
-Mexico includes remaining territory not part of US, minus Yucatan, Quintana Roo, Chiapas, Campeche and part of Tabasco.
-Yucatan Republic is OTL Yucatan, Quintana Roo, Campeche, and the red part of Tabasco.
-Guatemala is OTL Guatemala minus Peten plus Chiapas.
-Belize (called British Honduras) is OTL Belize and Peten.
-Rupert's Land (British North America) and the Dominion of Newfoundland (just the island)

So, new states: Bahamas, Cuba, Quebec, Canada, Ontario, Nova Scotia, St. John's Island, Columbia
and new territories: Newfoundland, Bermuda, South California, Durango, Virgin Islands
existing territories: Alaska, Hawaii, Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Indian Territory, Puerto Rico

Map 4: USA at 2000
-same as above, but:
-Newfoundland Territory is a state, as is Bermuda, Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Alaska, Hawaii
-Arizona/New Mexico have a straight-line border from Texas' El Paso County west until the OTL diagonal, allowing Tuscon to be in Arizona still.
-straight line north of Columbia to the Arctic is the Yukon Territory.
-the 52° parallel east to Lake Nipigon is divided in 3 as 3 new states: Athabasca, Manitoba, and Keewatin.
-North of the 52° is the Northern Territory; from Lake Nipigon east to Newfoundland is Hudson Bay Territory.

New states: Columbia, Athabasca, Manitoba, Keewatin, Manitoulin, Canada, Quebec, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, St. John's Island, South California, Durango, Rio Grande, Cuba, Bermuda, Bahamas, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands.
New Territories: Yukon, Northern, Hudson
Sixty-eight total states.

Do you think the northern border of Manitoulin, Canada, and Quebec match up the Rupert's Land border of OTL? That's what I was going for there.

Thank you in advance!

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Old April 15th, 2012, 02:17 PM
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Just a bump to this thread.

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Old April 22nd, 2012, 03:49 AM
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Bump to the thread.

This is the correct border for Rupert's Land and the US from 1783 onward. It shows the right Quebec eastern border after 1800.


If anyone's up for these, I would appreciate it!

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Old April 22nd, 2012, 06:00 AM
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Just a bump to this thread after all those spam poll retro threads.
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