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Old November 11th, 2005, 05:43 PM
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What if not democracy (taken from another thread)

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I find endless monarchies to be cliched and highly unlikely if they come from a sucessor state of an imploded US. IF anything new england was the most republican part of the US. If you want semi-likely monarchies try further south in the more aristocratic south.


If not a monarchy in an imploded U.S.? then what? Bear in mind that the majority of french revolutions would up as monarchies in an imploded republic. Proving that if your french you can actually lose your own revolution.
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Old November 11th, 2005, 06:08 PM
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Then another republic. If the US implodes I see the results as tending to be democracies of one sort or another.
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Old November 11th, 2005, 06:19 PM
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Then another republic. If the US implodes I see the results as tending to be democracies of one sort or another.
A Roman-style, Senators-for-life Republic? A Venetian-style Hereditary President of the Republic?
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Old November 11th, 2005, 06:22 PM
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If the circumstances fall in the right way, monarchies could show up in some places... I happen to think an Adams dynasty could happen in New England, though you'd need something more that simply a collapse of the US (like a devastating loss to New York in a war over the NW Territories). But Republics are more likely, but are likely to be more aristocratic than OTL. However, there is the fact that the western settlers tended to be far more democratic than the easterners... you'd probably see places like Kentcky and Tennessee pushing for more democracy even if there was no USA. Andrew Jackson leading a revolt?
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A Roman-style, Senators-for-life Republic? A Venetian-style Hereditary President of the Republic?
Sure. That would be in places like virginia or georgia though... it WAS the south that had the closest thing to an aristocratic tradition.
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Old November 11th, 2005, 06:35 PM
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A Roman-style, Senators-for-life Republic? A Venetian-style Hereditary President of the Republic?
Probably something more like the Commonwealth of Poland, where only the nobility could vote.

I should note that Virginia would probably be a Republic.
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Old November 11th, 2005, 06:36 PM
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Sure. That would be in places like virginia or georgia though... it WAS the south that had the closest thing to an aristocratic tradition.
I always thought of the Grand Virginian Republic being one of the most elegant, fancy places to live. All Virginians live in beautifull, large, plantation homes...and good knowledge of the fields makes them the richest country in the world, without needing the ugly mills of big industry. Controls all of Virginia's claims, and the Carolinas and their claims. Their capital is a city built in the 1700s, Elizabethtown.
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Old November 11th, 2005, 06:38 PM
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I always thought of the Grand Virginian Republic being one of the most elegant, fancy places to live...
Other than for the slaves of course
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Old November 11th, 2005, 06:43 PM
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Other than for the slaves of course
you just had to ruin it, didn't you?
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Old November 11th, 2005, 06:47 PM
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If the U.S imploded shortly after the revolution the result would have most likely been a New England rump USA with many of the remaining ex-colonies returning to the Mother Country. I can see Virginia becoming a serarate country that eventually stretches to the Ohio if not the Mississippi.
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