The Fountainhead Filibuster: Tales from Objectivist Katanga

[omega21]

Originally Posted by Linkwerk

Currently the UMHK mining company has some utility hacks, and as for the Katangans, well, as of 1959 they've got some light Bell observation helicopters, but in a few years.....

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Let's just going to say there are going to be some developments after the TRA is signed that change the options for the Katangan air force. Remember, they've got basically a reinforced battalion of elite mercenaries, a few (1.5-2) thousand kinda-trained armed objectivists as Galtville shareholder militia, and 6-8,000 semi-useless Katangan Gendarmes. They're very tight on manpower, so they're gonna have to make it count....


.....some things come early in this TL, let's just say.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_4Qfgcadk

Absolutely charming. I can't watch the vid now, but I see it's about vertical envelopment. Awesome, just what I had been thinking about! Of course, I'm guessing this is until the Tunnans come around.

BTW, Sergeant, thanks for that tip.

[Hades]

Would the F-4 play a role?

[LordInsane]

Originally Posted by Winston Smith

BTW, is the attack on Doug Hammerwhatever the reason the Objectivists piss of the UN?

I suspect the Queen (better fitting than Baroness, certainly) will do something later to push the UN into more... active opposition to her Katanga.

[Winston Smith]

Originally Posted by Hades

Would the F-4 play a role?

Unless the Katanga's piss off the USA, I doubt it. I think this is a Sweden/Ireland/India conflict vs Katanga affair.

[Enigmajones]

Originally Posted by Winston Smith

Unless the Katanga's piss off the USA, I doubt it. I think this is a Sweden/Ireland/India conflict vs Katanga affair.

It seems like a funny concept, but I would love to see an update from the point of view of an Irish UN soldier fighting in Katanga.

Also, we gotta have Ayn Rand meeting with Ian Smith.

[Winston Smith]

Originally Posted by Enigmajones

It seems like a funny concept, but I would love to see an update from the point of view of an Irish UN soldier fighting in Katanga.

Also, we gotta have Ayn Rand meeting with Ian Smith.

It would be one of the rare occasions I root for Rand. If she hasn't gone into the ''slavery territory yet''. Bet yet, how about a deeply Catholic Irish UN officer. Everything Rand hates in one neat, blue, Paptist heavily armed package!

[Enigmajones]

Originally Posted by Winston Smith

It would be one of the rare occasions I root for Rand. If she hasn't gone into the ''slavery territory yet''. Bet yet, how about a deeply Catholic Irish UN officer. Everything Rand hates in one neat, blue, Paptist heavily armed package!

A deeply Catholic Irish UN Officer? Is there any other option?

[Knightmare]

A deeply Provo Irish UN Officer...

[Enigmajones]

Originally Posted by Knightmare

A deeply Provo Irish UN Officer...

While awesome, it just doesn't seem like it would be very relevant to the story as a whole, considering the worst of the troubles has yet to start.

[Winston Smith]

Originally Posted by Knightmare

A deeply Provo Irish UN Officer...

The Provos had very little to do with Ireland. The ''Official IRA'' did, but not the PIRA. It's not an obvious distinction, but an important one.

[Knightmare]

Welp, my bad.

[Enigmajones]

Originally Posted by Winston Smith

The Provos had very little to do with Ireland. The ''Official IRA'' did, but not the PIRA. It's not an obvious distinction, but an important one.

I think he meant someone supporting the unification of Ireland. Which pre Troubles was pretty much everyone in Ireland and once again, unimportant to the story.

[Meerkat92]

What about a deeply and avowedly socialist Swedish UN officer? That'll cause some tension...

[LordInsane]

Originally Posted by Meerkat92

What about a deeply and avowedly socialist Swedish UN officer? That'll cause some tension...

Probably still a SAP voter, if he's open about his party allegiance. Of course, that is socialist enough, from the Objectivist perspective.

[Linkwerk]

Originally Posted by Meerkat92

What about a deeply and avowedly socialist Swedish UN officer? That'll cause some tension...

The contrast is amazing, isn't it? Even more so than the tension in any hypothetical Che/Rand encounter. Although a devoted revolutionary communist, at least Che and Rand are both hard liners of sorts, who believe just about anything is justified by their moral crusade, and who can acknowledge that they cannot and will not tolerate the other's existence.


I'm imagining the most doe-eyed, feel-good, pro-welfare state, not-too-socialist-but-gee-I-think-we-should-work-together Scandinavian in a UN beret really really really trying to find a compromise that everybody could work with and repeatedly stating how his only motivation "is to help the people of the Congo" on behalf of all the nations of the world working together.


The scene ends with Rand puking and then her head explodes.

[SergeantHeretic]

Originally Posted by Linkwerk

The contrast is amazing, isn't it? Even more so than the tension in any hypothetical Che/Rand encounter. Although a devoted revolutionary communist, at least Che and Rand are both hard liners of sorts, who believe just about anything is justified by their moral crusade, and who can acknowledge that they cannot and will not tolerate the other's existence.


I'm imagining the most doe-eyed, feel-good, pro-welfare state, not-too-socialist-but-gee-I-think-we-should-work-together Scandinavian in a UN beret really really really trying to find a compromise that everybody could work with and repeatedly stating how his only motivation "is to help the people of the Congo" on behalf of all the nations of the world working together.


The scene ends with Rand puking and then her head explodes.

I would like to state that I would do something publicly indecent to read such a scene.

[omega21]

Originally Posted by SergeantHeretic

I would like to state that I would do something publicly indecent to read such a scene.

Linkwerk, you heard her.

That said, it would be interesting to see the interplay of reason and extremism in a conversation. I love hearing extremists being put in their place. Some solid prose, and -bam-.

[SergeantHeretic]

Originally Posted by omega21

Linkwerk, you heard her.

That said, it would be interesting to see the interplay of reason and extremism in a conversation. I love hearing extremists being put in their place. Some solid prose, and -bam-.

I just want to hear a really good "The reason you suck" speech aimed at Ayn "Why is being a selfish exploitative witch not OK" Rand.

[Winston Smith]

Originally Posted by Linkwerk

The contrast is amazing, isn't it? Even more so than the tension in any hypothetical Che/Rand encounter. Although a devoted revolutionary communist, at least Che and Rand are both hard liners of sorts, who believe just about anything is justified by their moral crusade, and who can acknowledge that they cannot and will not tolerate the other's existence.


I'm imagining the most doe-eyed, feel-good, pro-welfare state, not-too-socialist-but-gee-I-think-we-should-work-together Scandinavian in a UN beret really really really trying to find a compromise that everybody could work with and repeatedly stating how his only motivation "is to help the people of the Congo" on behalf of all the nations of the world working together.


The scene ends with Rand puking and then her head explodes.

You've so got to write this as your next scene. Maybe from two different perspectives? Also, someone create a TV Tropes page for this!

[Hades]

Originally Posted by Linkwerk

The contrast is amazing, isn't it? Even more so than the tension in any hypothetical Che/Rand encounter. Although a devoted revolutionary communist, at least Che and Rand are both hard liners of sorts, who believe just about anything is justified by their moral crusade, and who can acknowledge that they cannot and will not tolerate the other's existence.


I'm imagining the most doe-eyed, feel-good, pro-welfare state, not-too-socialist-but-gee-I-think-we-should-work-together Scandinavian in a UN beret really really really trying to find a compromise that everybody could work with and repeatedly stating how his only motivation "is to help the people of the Congo" on behalf of all the nations of the world working together.


The scene ends with Rand puking and then her head explodes.

Here's how I think Rand should respond

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMBbWE1wCKI (0:23 onwards)

Either way, going Evil Overlord or head a splode would be hilarious to read.