Impact of New Amsterdam on Britain's American Colonies

[frozenpredator]

Originally Posted by pompejus

How extremely Roman of them. Well, the Roman empire probably was the inspiration of early slavery.

It actually was because Dutch priests kept preaching about the evils of slavery, but it was so profitable.

such a system might make the whole slave trade even worse now that I think of it. The need for fresh slaves would be even greater and thus more displacement of people from africa.

unless a group of former slaves can do it like the Quakers and sue their way to an abolition of slavery (lawsuits are what forced the WIC to enact laws preventing religious persecution)

[The Kiat]

Originally Posted by frozenpredator

It actually was because Dutch priests kept preaching about the evils of slavery, but it was so profitable.

such a system might make the whole slave trade even worse now that I think of it. The need for fresh slaves would be even greater and thus more displacement of people from africa.

unless a group of former slaves can do it like the Quakers and sue their way to an abolition of slavery (lawsuits are what forced the WIC to enact laws preventing religious persecution)

Sounds like a recipe for an early outlawing of the slave trade.

[frozenpredator]

Originally Posted by The Kiat

Sounds like a recipe for an early outlawing of the slave trade.

Well it needs to be during the period where the New Amsterdam city council (highest legal power in the colony from 1653 to the English conquest) is still filled with Ideological dreamers.

[Faeelin]

Actually, the New Netherlands would end up English speaking; they were going that way in OTL, and the Puritans were constantly encroaching on it. Given that they'd be rife for smugglers, I could see the British grabbing it during some war anyway....

[frozenpredator]

Originally Posted by Faeelin

Actually, the New Netherlands would end up English speaking; they were going that way in OTL, and the Puritans were constantly encroaching on it. Given that they'd be rife for smugglers, I could see the British grabbing it during some war anyway....

Considering the fact that the first thing English immigrants did was learn Dutch upon arrival I don't see them going English language easily. English settlers were only the majority in what is now Queens, and even there they gave their towns Dutch names.

[The Kiat]

Originally Posted by frozenpredator

Considering the fact that the first thing English immigrants did was learn Dutch upon arrival I don't see them going English language easily. English settlers were only the majority in what is now Queens, and even there they gave their towns Dutch names.

Dutch isn't that radically different than English. I've studied the language a little bit and found that English is far closer to Dutch than Deutsch. It would be even more so if not for all the Franco-Latin influence in Britain over the centuries.