Greek Aircraft

[Shtudmuffin]

Does anyone have a photo of the AEKKEA-RAAB R-29? It was an indiginously made Greek fighter made in 1936. I would assume that someone, somewhere, has to have it, and I was hoping that one of you would either have seen a photo, a sketch, or have access to some kind of idea of what it may have looked like. Please, tell me if you know of any sources or have photographs to provide.

[Serenissima]

Wikipedia: "There seems to be no surviving image of the plane (after invaluable AEKKEA files in Greece were destroyed during an archive move), with only a description of the plane layout provided in Jane's contemporary publication."

[Shtudmuffin]

Originally Posted by Serenissima

Wikipedia: "There seems to be no surviving image of the plane (after invaluable AEKKEA files in Greece were destroyed during an archive move), with only a description of the plane layout provided in Jane's contemporary publication."

Dammit, that just ruins everything. There has to be at LEAST a sketch somewhere, or design plans. Honestly, somewhere on the internet, it just HAS to exist

[Gen_Patton]

Originally Posted by Shtudmuffin

Dammit, that just ruins everything. There has to be at LEAST a sketch somewhere, or design plans. Honestly, somewhere on the internet, it just HAS to exist

I don't think so, the Internet while having lots of info can sometimes have glaring spots of nothing.

For your plan have you tried searching not only Google, but aircraft and model building forums as well? Some problems only the deep web can solve.

-Gen_Patton

[Shtudmuffin]

Originally Posted by Gen_Patton

I don't think so, the Internet while having lots of info can sometimes have glaring spots of nothing.

For your plan have you tried searching not only Google, but aircraft and model building forums as well? Some problems only the deep web can solve.

-Gen_Patton

Could you recommend such forums for me?

[Gen_Patton]

I don't know any personally try googling some.

[Shtudmuffin]

Originally Posted by Gen_Patton

I don't know any personally try googling some.

Will do, I'll see what I can get.

[Serenissima]

Originally Posted by Shtudmuffin

There has to be at LEAST a sketch somewhere, or design plans.

Well, if even Jane's didn't have it back then, I think it's probably sufficiently obscure that nobody but the manufacturer ever took a photograph of it... and if they've lost all their records, you're probably out of luck.

I did find an aviation forum discussing it which says that all 30 examples which were built were shipped, without engines, to the Soviet Union, at which point they disappeared.

[Just Leo]

The speed with which it was built would tend to indicate that it was a tube-and-rag structure with round engine, based on the previous Schwalbe design, but beyond that, it's totally conjectural.

[Shtudmuffin]

Originally Posted by Serenissima

Well, if even Jane's didn't have it back then, I think it's probably sufficiently obscure that nobody but the manufacturer ever took a photograph of it... and if they've lost all their records, you're probably out of luck.

I did find an aviation forum discussing it which says that all 30 examples which were built were shipped, without engines, to the Soviet Union, at which point they disappeared.

Maybe the Ruskies know something of it.... Anyone speak Russian?

[Dilvish]

Originally Posted by Shtudmuffin

Could you recommend such forums for me?

Try this forum, tgplanes.com. Good luck!

[whatisinaname]

Is this the aircraft in question that you are after?

http://www.trueknowledge.com/images/thumbs/180/250/5ef2d4da99c897c5495945946f20a51c.jpg

[Grey Wolf]

Originally Posted by whatisinaname

Is this the aircraft in question that you are after?

http://www.trueknowledge.com/images/thumbs/180/250/5ef2d4da99c897c5495945946f20a51c.jpg

That's this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AEKKEA_Schwalbe.jpg
the Schwalbe

I tried using Google Images too, but got nowhere, even Mystery Plane enthusiasts seem stumped by the lack of pictorial evidence

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

[modelcitizen]

Originally Posted by whatisinaname

Is this the aircraft in question that you are after?

http://www.trueknowledge.com/images/thumbs/180/250/5ef2d4da99c897c5495945946f20a51c.jpg

YOU GUYS ARE [still pretty] GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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[modelcitizen]

Originally Posted by Serenissima

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I did find an aviation forum discussing it which says that all 30 examples which were built were shipped, without engines, to the Soviet Union, at which point they disappeared.

Just the feeling of that statement, wow.

Strangely evocative.

[Shtudmuffin]

Originally Posted by whatisinaname

Is this the aircraft in question that you are after?

http://www.trueknowledge.com/images/thumbs/180/250/5ef2d4da99c897c5495945946f20a51c.jpg

Sorry, but no. That's a different aircraft, as posted by someone above me.

[Serenissima]

Originally Posted by modelcitizen

Just the feeling of that statement, wow.

Strangely evocative.

Oh? How do you mean?

[Just Leo]

Originally Posted by Serenissima

Oh? How do you mean?

I think he means that they travelled through another dimension, not of sight and sound, but of the mind,a journey through a wondrous land whose boundaries are those of imagination.

[Serenissima]

You sure have a high and interesting opinion of the Soviet Union there.

In both senses of 'high'.