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Here is hte latest version of the ATL:
Titanic Sails On ATL: version 4.0 -------------------------------------------- April 16th, 1912: Amidst much fanfare and press hype, the RMS Titanic arrives in New York City, New York May 1st, 1912: Seeing the success of the Titanic, the German Empire decides to build their own luxury cruise ship. The "HMS Bismarck" is planned to drive on the route from Hamburg to Rio de Janeiro from 1915 on. May, 3rd 1912. Upon Titanic's return to the UK, Captain Edward J. Smith officially retires from service. May 10th, 1912. William Howard Taft suffers a minor heart attack, prompting him to drop out of the presidential race. 18th July, 1912: The Italian Regia Marina under the orders of captain Enrico Millo manages to force the Dardanelles and to destroy the Turk fleet in the Bay of Chanak. The torpedo boat Spica however results heavily damaged, as it was stopped during the battle by a anti-torpedo net and was abandoned and sunked. Millo moves on the Cruiser Vettor Pisani, which effort was determinant in the success of the operation. 22th July, 1912: At Losanna, the Turk delegation accepts to sign a peace treaty with the Italians, recognizing the defeat in the conflict. The Ottoman Empire recognizes to Italy control of Libya, of the islands from Rhodes to Samos, the islands between Eritrea and Yemen, the port of Hobeida, and to pay war reparations. 24th July, 1912: The news of the defeat provokes a political crisis and a state of internal instability in the Ottoman Empire... 1st August, 1912: Italian captain Enrico Millo is promoted admiral and receives from King Vittorio Emanuele III the title of Count of Samos. He is charged to command the naval squadron in the Aegean Islands. 2nd August, 1912: The Greek government denounces the Italian control of the South-Eastern Aegean Islands and the right of Vittorio Emanuele to create nobiliar titles from those lands and claimed their restitution to Greece. Naturally, Giolitti refuses. A grudge between Italy and Greece is going on... 8th August, 1912: A report of the Regia Marina to Italian Prime Minister Giovanni Giolitti about the outcome of the battle of Chanak suggests to invest more on submarine warfare but also to increase the strenght of the fleet to be more competitive and protect the shores of the Kingdom. Giolitti requests to the Regia Marina to plan new models of submarines and other ships while in the meanwhile his government will promote the growth of shipbuilding industry, both civilian and military. 10th August, 1912: Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece attack by surprise the Ottoman Empire, in internal crisis and with logistic problems after the loss of its fleet by hand of the Italians. Montenegro remains for now neutral in the war as the Balkan League in the run for the attack don't make in time to involve it. August 14th, 1912 - Col. John Jacob Astor, 47, and his wife Madelaine, 19, celebrate the birth of their son John. They were, of course, the subject of much disapproval amongst the high society gossips in New York. Col. Astor was later to provide support for the pro-intervention element in 1914 following the sinking of the Lusitania. 15th August, 1912: Essad Pasha, commander of the garrison of Scrutari, senses the weakness of the Ottoman Empire and moves his troops towards Tirana. 22th August, 1912: Essad Pasha enters in Tirana and proclaims the indipendence of Albania as a Republic. 25th August, 1912: The Montenegrin army invades North Albania and marches towards Scrutari. 28th August, 1912: Essad Pasha, in difficulty against the Montenegrin attack, he requests support from the Italians as the more near great power on the sight. 29th August, 1912: Giolitti accepts to help the Albanians recognizing the indipendence of the country and the Italians start to send supplies and military advisors in direction of Tirana. 12th September, 1912: The Italian government autorizes the construction of a military base and of a modern port in Hobeida, while in a secret relation to the intelligence service it is incouraged to promote a revolt in Yemen to slip it from Ottoman control and to form an Italian protectorate. Italy is determined to match Great Britain in the control of Arabian peninsula... 15th September, 1912: With the Italian help, the Albanians push the Montenegrins away from Scrutari and start to march towards the principate. 18th September, 1912: Montenegro is accepted into the Balkan League who declares war on Albania. 20th September, 1912: The Italian government sends a ultimatum to Montenegro: or accepts to sign a white peace with Albania or it will be war. 22th September, 1912: The Italian Parliament decides to ally with Albania and to declare war on Montenegro, despite the protests of Queen Elena, native of that country. 23th September, 1912: Both the German and the Austro-Hungarian governments announce to not be involved in the Balkan war after the Italian declaration of war. Berlin and specially Wien are rather displeased of the Italian initiative. However, the Germans and the Austro-Hungarians are divided the same because the first start to help the Ottomans while the second support the Balkan League. 25th September, 1912: Queen Elena of Italy, in protest for the war towards Montenegro, leaves Rome in direction of Paris, where soon she become a beacon for the French high society and for the artists in the city. The French government grants her the permission to live in the pavillion of the Reine in Place des Vosges; later, she obtaines the permission to have the side buildings to enlarge her apartment in order to properly place her growing art collection. 30th September, 1912: the first Italian divisions arrive in Albania. 4th November, 1912: The Italian troops starts to invade Montenegro. November 5th 1912: An mad anarchist inspired by the exploits of Guy Fawkes shoots former president Theodore Roosevelt in the face killing him. Upon being grabbed by Roosevelt's guards the assassin named Guy Francis screamed, "I've saved the Republic!" over and over. Also on this day, Thedore Roosevelt Junior, capitalising on his father's fame, is elected as Secretary of State for New York on the Republican ticket after being pressured into running by the state Republican party seeking. He would remain in state politics for one term because of his interventionist beliefs - voiced one too many times at various fundraisers and dinners - bring about his defeat by an isolationist New York. Canadian-American and fellow Republican Francis Hugo is sworn in in 1915 as Roosevelt's successor in the 1914 election. November 6th, 1912. While docked in its berth in Southampton harbor, the RMS Titanic is set ablaze by an explosion from a neighboring merchantman loaded with a cargo hold full of nitrate based fertilizers. Attempts to put out the conflagration are to no avail, and the ocean liner sinks in its berth. Only thirty six men, all of them crewmen working on refitting maintenance on the Titanic are killed in the incident, but the sudden shock of the event causes White Star Line shares to go tumbling on the publicly traded stock exchanges. Cunard, White Star's main competitor, seizes on the opportunity to launch a smear campaign, and by the end of the decade, it has come to exceed White Star in its percentage of the Trans-Atlantic shipping market. Also on this day, Taking advantage from the tragedy of the Titanic, German count Ferdinand von Zeppelin announced that his airships will be more reliable of a transatlantic and he bet before 10 years from now his company will manage to construct one not only capable to cross the Ocean but also to have the same luxury standards of the Titanic. Also on this day, The Russian government sends a ultimatum to both Ottoman Empire and Italy: the first must surrends to the Balkan League, the second must pull back its forces from the region. 7th November, 1912: Giolitti is willing to conclude the Italian partecipation in the conflict if Albania will be recognized as an indipendent country. The protectorate over that nation is enough for the Kingdom, tired of two wars in two years. 8th November, 1912: The Russian government accepts the Italian request. After all, their control of Albania and the supremacy in the Adriatic could cause problems for Austria-Hungary... 9th November, 1912: The Balkan League accepts to recognize Albania and to sign a white peace with Italy. Greece is the only contrary and determinate to continue the war, but it is informed from the allies it will fight by alone against Italy, so it accepts white peace as well. The Italian army starts to retire from Montenegro. November 27th, 1912: Sir Edward Henry, Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis of London, is shot and killed in London, England by anarchists, embarassing the British government.... December 23rd, 1912: Lord Charles Hardinge, British Viceroy of India, is assassinated by Indian nationalists in New Delhi, India, sparking civil unrest and violence in the region.... December 29th, 1912. Cunard Line's RMS Lusitania recaptures the Blue Riband by beating the 1909 Atlantic speed record set by Cunard's Mauretania. The new Atlantic speed record stands at 4 days, 9 hours, and 56 minutes. January 23rd, 1913: Three Pashas Conspiracy; Pashas Mehmed Talat Pasha, İsmail Enver, and Ahmed Djemal launch a failed coup against reformist Kamil Pasha in Istanbul, Ottoman Empire..... 8th February, 1913: General Bernardo Reyes enters with his troops in Mexico City and attacks the Presidential Palace, killing president Francisco Madero; vice President Josč Maria Pino Suarez however manages to escape in the last moment... 9th February, 1913: Suarez proclaimes himself as new legitimate President of Mexico. He decides to decline the services of General Huerta and avocates to himself the direct control of the Army of Mexico City... 20th March 1913: Kuotmingtang leader Song Jiaoren, hand appointed successor to Dr. Sun Yat-sen survives an assassination attempt on his life in Beijing, Communist Party leader Zhao Bingjun is implicated in the attempt... 8th April 1913: Kuomingtang leader Song Jiaoren is selected as President by the National Assembly in Beijing, China, sparking international attention and concern... 12th July 1913: President Song Jiaoren calls for a crackdown on forces loyal to General Yuan Shikai, claiming that the military leader has attempted a coup against the government in Beijing, China... 26th October, 1913: Shock in Italy! The Italian Socialist Party under the leadership of Filippo Turati and the coalition he manages to build in the past months with the other leftist parties wins the political elections, the first with male universal suffrage. The Liberal Party of Giolitti instead fails to reach an agreement with the catholics, and even loses votes because a part of the electorate was angry for the heavy costs of the recent expansionistic policy. 3rd November, 1913: After the ballots, which confirms the victory of PSI, King Vittorio Emanuele III calls Filippo Turati as new First Minister of Italy. 4th March, 1914: Essad Pasha is crowned King of Albania. He is backwarded by the Italians who continue to extend their hands over the country. June 19th, 1914: Grigori Rasputin is assassinated in Saint Petersburg, Russia by former prostitute Khionia Guseva, sparking tensions within the Romanov Dynasty.... June 28th, 1914: Franz Ferdinand's assassination attempt in Sarajevo fails. He is able back safely to Vienna. 18th January, 1915: On the anniversary of the proclamation of the German Empire, the HMS Bismarck starts on its first travel from Hamburg to Rio de Janeiro. The most prominent traveler is the son of Emperor Wilhelm II., Wilhelm from Prussia. He uses the journey to Brazil to meet a couple of members of the Brazilian government. 8th February 1915: Birth of a Nation by D.W. Griffith, calls for the revival of the Ku Klux Klan, and blames economic troubles on "the Negro problem" and the "Jewish bankers"... 18th May, 1915: The German Empire announces that they'll build a second luxury ship, the "HMS Frederick the Great". It is scheduled to be finished in two years time. The Frederick the Great is planned to travel from Hamburg to New York. 21st June 1915: Gunn v. United States; Supremem Court upholds the "grandfather clause", allowing Southern states to dismiss and disqualify all African-American votes nationwide.... 3rd July 1915: Industrialist J.P. Morgan Jr. is assassinated by Eric Muenter in Long Island, New York, sparking national attention over fears of "anarchist agitation".... 21th November, 1916: Franz Joseph I, Emperor of Austria-Hungary, dies at 86. Franz Ferdinand becomes the new Emperor. 4th December, 1916: Behind the official congratulations, Italian prime minister Turati sends a private letter to Franz Ferdinand to ask the possibility to resume a definitive negotiation about the issue of the Italian irredent lands. Turati needs to take this initiative to stop the crescent opposition of the irredentists socialists leaded by Benito Mussolini. Franz Ferdinand accepts to open a secret table but decides to delay the negotiations the most possible hoping the next year in Italy a more right-oriented government will be elected. 1st May, 1917: The HMS Frederick the Great goes on its first travel to New York. Emperor Wilhelm II. himself decides to travel to New York, from where he will continue to travel to Washington D.C., to meet the President of the United States. 18th June, 1917: Wilhelm II. meets the President of the United States in Washington, where he's greeted enthusiastically by the attending crowd. Wilhelm II. is actually surprised by what he is witnessing there, which gives him some ideas for Germany... 24th August 1917: General Lavr Kornilov launches a military coup d'etat in Saint Petersburg, Russia, sparking international attention and concern. 26th August 1917: General Lavr Kornilov briefs Alexander Kerensky on the need for a "law and order" government, during a meeting in Saint Petersburg, Russia 3rd September, 1917: In a speech in front of the Reichstag, Emperor Wilhelm II. announces federal reforms, which gives the parliament more legislative powers. While his attempts are very controversial amongst the nobility, it is very popular among the German people. 2nd November, 1917: The Italian Socialist party wins the political elections, thanks to its program of reforms which caught great part of the working class and the introduction of a proportional law which favores it. Also part of the upper classes are satified of the growth of the national economy and supported the Socialists. However, the PSI must faces the rise of the catholic party founded by Luigi Sturzo, the Popular Party (PPI), and the extreme leftist opposition of the irredentist socialist minority of Benito Mussolini who founded the Italian National Socialist Party (PNSI). The Liberals continue to lose ground. 5th November 1917: Buchanan v. Warley; U.S. Supreme Court rules that racial segregated housing is part of the "national interest", citing the recent race riots nationwide... 14th January 1918: Vladimir Ilyich Lenin is wounded in failed assassination attempt at a cafe in Zurich, Switzerland, many suspect that the assassination was ordered by the Romanov Dynasty... 14th February, 1918: The Italian and the Austro-Hungarian governments reach an agreement over the irrident lands. The territories of Trentin, South Tirol and Venetia Iulia will held plebiscites for the late spring. Turati promises in case of victory of the irredentists the Kingdom will never ask anymore for further territorial expansions. 12th June, 1918: Plebiscite in the Italian irredent lands. Trentin and Venetia Iulia vote for the passage of Italy. South Tirol instead decides to remain in the Empire. Turati declares from this day the Italian Risorgimento is completed. The King, the PP and the Liberals all approve. Even the Vatican congratulate for the peaceful solution and hopes this will mark the start of a new cooperation between Italy and Austria-Hungary. Only the PNSI protests for the governative decision to renounce to South Tirol, Istria and Dalmatia. 13th June, 1918: The Austro-Hungaric fleet starts to relocate from Triest to Fiume, destined to become the main port of the Empire now. The Austrian properties, both of the crown (like the castle of Miramare) and of privates, according to the agreement with the Italians will be respected. 25th June, 1918: The indipendentist movements in Croatia ask to hold a plebiscite in their lands on the model of those in Trentin and Venetia Iulia, asking for autonomy or even indipendence, also on the wave caused by the crescent irritation for the Imperial requisitions in Fiume to readapt the city as main port of the Empire... 2nd July 1918: Influenza Viola; African-American nurse Viola Pettus is lynched on the outskirts of Brewster County, Texas, after rumors of a new flu virus are reported.... 4th July, 1918: Also the Poles in Galicia start to ask for autonomy or indipendence... 10th July, 1918: Josef Pilsudski returns secretly in Poland from Germany and starts to organize a open revolt with the Reich's support... 7th July, 1918: The Polish manifestations extends in Poland proper. Both Germans and Russians monitor the developments... 3rd September, 1918: Poland revolts! The revolutionaries under Pilsudski caught by surprise the Russian garrison in Warsaw, with the help of the local population, at cost of high losses. From the city, the revolt spreads immediately all across the country... 10th September, 1918: In Finland begin bloody revolution against Russian government. 16th September, 1918: Finnish rebels gets Southern Finland and many areas from Eastern Finland. 19th September, 1918: Tsar Nikolai II assassinate by left-wing anarchists. 20th September, 1918: The Russian government and the Romanov family moves in Moscow. In theory, Tzarevic Alexei will become the new Emperor, but haemophylia debilitated him. In order to gain time, they recurred to the precedent adopted by Peter the Great: the widow of Nikolai, Alexandra, will be crowned Tzarina of all the Russias. 22th September, 1918: Lenin take power in St. Petersburg and declare Russian Soviet Republic. 25th September, 1918: Government of Finland declares independence. 27th September, 1918: Finnish Socialists take power part of Finland and soon government of Finland (Whites) is war with Socialists (Reds). 5th March, 1919: Italian ace fighter Francesco Baracca, interested in the developments of the German civil aereonautics, opens his own air company, the "Cavallo rampante". 29th April 1919: U.S. Senator Thomas W. Hardwick (D-GA) is killed at his home in Sandersville, Georgia, sparking international attention... 2nd June 1919: Attorney-General A. Mitchell Palmer is killed when a bomb by anarchists, explodes at his home in Washington D.C.,... 7th August 1919: Prime Minister István Friedrich is elected on an ultra-nationalist ticket, demanding the return of Austro-Hungarian territories.... 8th September, 1919: Using a zeppelin produced in Germany, the "Cavallo Rampante" opens the first Italian national air route, the Milan-Turin. 24th November 1919: Bela Kun successfully leads the Communist overthrow of the government in Budapest, sparking international attention and concern... ******************************* 13th April, 1920: The "Cavallo Rampante" creates the first Italian zeppelin for civilian purposes, the "Vittorio Emanuele II". 14th September, 1920: Italy grants women's suffrage. Almost all the parties, except the PNSI who starts to orientate towards rightist ideals, support the law. 6th October, 1922: The PP, allied with the Liberals, wins the Italian political elections. Part of the female electorate votes for the Catholics, while the PSI suffers of alternance effects. The PNSI also gains consensus from the insatisfied of the pacifist policy promoted by the Socialists and supported by the Populars. 9th October, 1922: Remo Vigorelli, experienced banker, one of the founders of the PP, becomes the new Italian prime minister. Many, specially the Liberals, opposed Don Sturzo's initial proposal to promote Alcide de Gasperi, because of his past experience as deputy in the Austrian parliament, so the priest gives up for now. De Gasperi obtains the role of minister of internal affairs. 28th October, 1922: Mussolini tries a coup of state by launching the PNSI squadrons towards Rome. However, the Vigorelli government convinced Vittorio Emanuele III to enact the state of emergency. The soldiers and the police, following the orders of De Gasperi, halt the squadrons and arrest the main PNSI leaders. Mussolini escapes in Switzerland. 2nd May, 1924: The "Vittorio Emanuele II" covers the first time the route Rome-Wien, breaking the previous speed record with the new engines realized by Ansaldo Breda. 2nd May, 1925: In the occasion of first anniversary of the Rome-Wien air ruote, Vittorio Emanuele III makes a visit state in Austria-Hungary, received by the Emperor Franz Ferdinand and his wife. It's the first time since 1861 an Italian ruler visits the Empire. Franz Ferdinand promises to visit Rome in September. 21th September, 1925: Franz Ferdinand I visits Rome, meeting King Vittorio Emanuele III, the Italian first minister Vigorelli, and His Holiness Pius XI. |
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Here are some PODs to make sure that China is involved in the major changes:
January 15th, 1915: Republic of China led by President Song Jiaoren, condemns charges of "economic control" by Japan, sparking tensions between the two countries.... November 19th, 1915: Republic of China under President Song Jiaoren announces that it is pursuing foreign relations with Germany, sparking tensions in the region.... March 14th, 1917: Kaiser Wilhelm II announces the formation of a German embassy in Beijing, at the request of Chinese President Song Jiaoren, sparking international attention and concern.... November 2nd, 1917: Battle of Shandong; Chinese forces launch a fierce guerilla campaign against Japanese forces, declaring "not one inch of soil..." January 9th, 1925: Doctor Sun Yat-Sen attends the Presidential Inauguration in Washington D.C., in an effort to demonstrate solidarity amongst democracies worldwide... |
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October 1st, 1925 – Mount Rushmore dedication sparks major "Indian Riots" across the US...
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Here are some random pop culture PODs to keep things weird:
April 3rd, 1916: Father C.W. Leadbetter calls for religious reforms within the Roman Catholic Church, during a rally in London, England, sparking international attention... July 18th, 1917: Elsie Wright and Frances Griffiths of Cottingley, England begin preaching about the New Age belief in "Fairies"... November 24th, 1922: Polish science-fiction author Ferdinand Ossendowski publishes the novel Beasts, Men and Gods about the subterranean world of Agharta.... April 23rd, 1925: American George Adamski sparks international attention by calling for territorial independence for Tibet, during a rally in San Francisco, California.... |
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OOC: Will there ever be a Great War?
IC: November 9th, 1916: The Irish Home Rule Bill comes into effect. Rioting instantly starts, with ironically the Nationalists siding with the British Government against the loyalists. October 3rd, 1918: After the Reichstag refuses to pass another Navy Bill Wilhelm II considers dissolving it though is talked out of doing so by the Chancellor who points out that "events in Russia show that the Monarchy and the People cannot exist without the consent of the other". October 10th 1918: After a week of dithering Wilhelm II accepts the desicion of the Reichstag and at the suggestion of the Chancellor calls for the nations of Europe to assemble and "solve issues that caused the Naval Arms race". While everyone is invited this is clearly aimed the British who, after the narrow passage of the Irish Home Rule and the Rioting are happy to defuse at least one of the European trouble spots. May 1st, 1919: Meeting at The Hauge in the Netherlands Germany, Britain, France, Austria and Italy meet at the Naval Conference. The United States were invited but declined to attend. |
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A major mainstream show actually used the concept of causality/butterflies ?! What is the world coming to ? In truth, it's awesome they've at least considered the implications. ![]()
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November 9, 1923: The Beer Hall Putsch succeeds, however an Adolf Hitler is shot by the police forces.
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Several problems with this: 1) As of now there was no WW1, so the Austrian is likely still a starving wanna-be painter in Vienna or Munich. 2) The Empire is still around and hasn't lost a war, and is democratizing. No reason for anyone to coup. 3) Butterflies... |
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I have kind of a novel idea for Hitler, actually. You know how Walt Disney is frequently accused of having been a closet anti-semite and fascist? Well what if in this timeline, Hitler immigrated to the US and became a successful cartoonist/animator?
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Definitely go for it!! It would be similar to Norman Spinrad's The Iron Dream..
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April 12, 1924: In the short "The Opry House" the character Martin Maus is seen dressed and dancing as a Hasidic Jew...
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August 11th, 1921: Father James Coyle is lynched in Birmingham, Alabama, amidst an anti-Catholic rally led by Reverend E.R. Stephenson, sparking national attention... June 1st, 1925: Pierce Compulsory Education Act (CEA)passes; Congressional legislation banning parochial schools, authored by Walter M. Pierce (D-OR), is ratified, sparking international attention and concern, especially within Jewish and Roman Catholic communities... March 17th, 1926: Anti-Catholic sentiment explodes as Shrine of the Little Flower in Royal Oak, Michigan is torched, just two weeks after its opening, killing 3 girls.... |
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Here are some PODs to make sure that the ATL gets messed up:
July 25th, 1917: The first of the "Cottingley Prophecies" is delivered by Elsie Wright who proclaims that "Satan has entered into the highest realms of the Vatican in Rome...", sparking controversy in Cottingley, England... September 28th, 1917: Elsie Wright and Frances Griffiths proclaim that a "cancer of sin has fanned out from the metropolis of London..." sparking international attention and concern... February 1st, 1918: Elsie Wright and Frances Griffiths proclaim that an attempt will be made on the Royal Family, during a rally in London, England... June 1st, 1918: Elsie Wright and Frances Griffiths warn of a "Masonic conspiracy" during a reading in Cottingley, England... May 26th, 1919: Elsie Wright and Frances Griffiths, citing the war in the Balkans and Central Europe, state,"Great elemental tragedies, disasters, man-made and God-sent upon mankind, shall increase..." during a visit to Edinburgh, England.... November 24th, 1919: Elsie Wright and Francs Griffiths, spark international attention and concern by stating,"A great War is approaching mankind … in which nations shall vanish from the earth..." during a rally in London, England... October 2nd, 1920: Elsie Wright and Fances Griffiths proclaim that "You shall see nations disappear from the earth in seconds..." in Cottingley, England, followers will proclaim that the message is a prediction of nuclear weapons.... |
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Normally not one to bump things but yeah..
What do you think of the US getting Universal Healthcare before Canada and the Canadian right criticizing that?
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August 8, 1925: Battle of Washington - The Ku Klux Klan hold a parade in Washington DC where as many as 40,000 male and female members of the Klan march down Pennsylvania Avenue. Communists retaliate against them after an earlier raid, sparking a massive street brawl.
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That would be interesting. It would also seem to flag the United States as being seen as "socialist"....
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Something to consider is that quite a large amount of the Klan supported the New Deal and similar policies. Given the events so far it's not implausible that the Klan might lobby for "affordable healthcare for all white, christian americans..."
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Another thought: The Black Legion in OTL was extremely violent and anti-communist even by the standards of the Klan's splinter groups. They even attempted to overthrow the US government in 1931. What if they do significantly more damage. Or on top of that, the Klan experiences more success but then also kind of a civil war within itself between more economically "progressive" and more "conservative" factions? Think what happened with the squabbling within the Soviets or the inner party fighting between the more socialist/strasserist SA and the more reactionary and pro-business SS.
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I believe the terms that would be used would be "racial hygiene". Just remember that "eugenics" doesn't have a bad name, and isn't considered evil until after 1945...
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Consider adding elements of the 1934 Business Plot, to add military and corporate support for the planned coup. That would certainly slant things in the direction you want. As for resistance, consider the cable series Boardwalk Empire, wherein the Irish Mob, the Mafia, and African-American groups are competing against the Klan for control of bootlegging in Atlantic City in the early 1920s. In the ATL, organized crime might be the only group powerful enough to stop the Black Legion, or at least evade them.... |
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