The Whale has Wings

[trekchu]

Originally Posted by Peg Leg Pom

No doubt the Beer ships been extreemly well guarded by the Royal Australian Navy. ALL OF IT!!! The captain who lets that cargo get sunk will be condemed to a lifetime of drinking sherry with the sheilas.

I just hope the Beer isn't lend lease from the states. There'd be a mutiny.

He'd deserve a lifetime of Bud Light.

[paulo]

Originally Posted by trekchu

He'd deserve a lifetime of Bud Light.

Men, call terror moves off, please ? brrrrr

[perfectgeneral]

Operation Stiletto, named after the knife rather than the shoe?

Apt for a precision strike. If this can be co-ordinated with a counter offensive on the east coast road then the western offensive really will be in a pickle.

[MattII]

The shoe was named after that dagger anyway, but yes, it was probably named after the dagger.

[Peg Leg Pom]

There's another knife that would make a good name for this type of op.

The Bollock Dagger. Just hope the head hunters in Borneo restrict themselves to targeting the Japanese if it gives them ideas.

[Tonymecury]

Originally Posted by usertron2020

1)the Kakoda Trail.

Kokoda Track

Trail was only used for certain Allies, possibly because it was one of the things that Doug failed to understand. This possibly had him thinking of something easy to use like the Oregon Trail rather then something that ascended and descended hundreds of metres by incredibly steep, slippery steps umpteen times across the Owen Stanleys.

[Tonymecury]

Originally Posted by trekchu

He'd deserve a lifetime of Bud Light.

Does that count as a WMD? Or is it Chemical Warfare?

[Garrison]

Originally Posted by Tonymecury

Kokoda Track

Trail was only used for certain Allies, possibly because it was one of the things that Doug failed to understand. This possibly had him thinking of something easy to use like the Oregon Trail rather then something that ascended and descended hundreds of metres by incredibly steep, slippery steps umpteen times across the Owen Stanleys.

With a little luck ITTL MacArthur won't be in that position of authority, for that matter the Japanese probably won't reach New Guinea.

[PMN1]

Originally Posted by usertron2020

2) The union workers were the Australian Waterside Workers Union, headed by one Mr. (Don't remember his first name) Healy. With a one vote majority at the time, Curtin lacked the political strength to solve the dilemma regarding this union's rampant corruption. (3) All this despite the worries of invasion and the Conservatives openly calling for Mr. Healy "to be strung up!" I'm not saying the International Longshoremen's Union in the US didn't have problems with corruption, but in wartime it never reached the levels seen in Australia.(4)

3) Have you ever heard the words "lunch baskets" regarding the waterside workers?

4) The US Longshoremen at least did their jobs. It was not a proud moment in history for the land Down Under, especially considering that the Diggers of the Australian 7th Division were doing their all right at that very moment on the Kakoda Trail.

Australian dockyard workers have been discussed here as well - post 234 from Mark Bailey 6th May 2012 for the most recent.



http://francefightson.yuku.com/topic...2#.T6rszpghO0Y

[PMN1]

Originally Posted by Simreeve

I've read somewhere that they quietly refused to sail -- with their captain's approval -- until it was renamed...


But other RN sailors would still call them by their ship's name, as was customary: Lions, Tigers, Eagles, Billy-Ruffians (from HMS Bellerophon),and so on...

Well, you have got to wonder about the naming of a class of ships after flowers, you'd have thought they would have learned the lesson after WW1 and said - 'no more flowers'

[Peg Leg Pom]

Originally Posted by Tonymecury

Kokoda Track

Trail was only used for certain Allies, possibly because it was one of the things that Doug failed to understand. This possibly had him thinking of something easy to use like the Oregon Trail rather then something that ascended and descended hundreds of metres by incredibly steep, slippery steps umpteen times across the Owen Stanleys.

Did the Australians ever acknowlage the contribution of the tribesmen in that campaign? Many a sick or wounded soldier only survived because the tribesmen carried them down the track.

It's looking like Borneo's shaping up to be this timelines version of that green hell.

[Peg Leg Pom]

Originally Posted by PMN1

Well, you have got to wonder about the naming of a class of ships after flowers, you'd have thought they would have learned the lesson after WW1 and said - 'no more flowers'

It's just as well they didn't name any after planets.

Who'd want to own up to serving on the good ship Venus?

[PMN1]

Originally Posted by Peg Leg Pom

It's just as well they didn't name any after planets.

Who'd want to own up to serving on the good ship Venus?

Uuuumm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Venus_%28R50%29

[RPW@Cy]

Originally Posted by PMN1

Well, you have got to wonder about the naming of a class of ships after flowers, you'd have thought they would have learned the lesson after WW1 and said - 'no more flowers'

If anything, they doubled down. Consider the "Gay" class - Gay Viking, Gay Bombardier, Gay Archer...

[Faralis]

Originally Posted by RPW@Cy

If anything, they doubled down. Consider the "Gay" class - Gay Viking, Gay Bombardier, Gay Archer...

Hey they were being referential towards an oppressed minority ...

[general]

One of the reasons the battle got known as the "Kokoda Track" was that all press releases had to be cleared by dear old Doug and/or his HQ brownoses, henc ethey used the term "trail".
Thye also never actually checked what info there was on the track. On one occasion they demanded to know why we hadnt blocked a section called the Gap. The Gap in question is a cut in the mountains that planes could use, not as they thought a narrow mountain pass - fair enough not to know, but they did'nt ask!
Re the New Guines tribesmen, yes Australia has several times acknoeledged their role in the campaign, including that we could not have fought it without them. Whether or not we have done enough...
Re MacArthur, could he please be captured trying to sneak out w.out orders?
that would nail his P.R machine

[Tyg]

Originally Posted by RPW@Cy

If anything, they doubled down. Consider the "Gay" class - Gay Viking, Gay Bombardier, Gay Archer...

My brain responded to this by playing the Village People's "In the Navy".

[PMN1]

Originally Posted by general

Re MacArthur, could he please be captured trying to sneak out w.out orders?
that would nail his P.R machine

Or can he just have a heart attack while having a crap.....

[paulo]

Originally Posted by PMN1

Or can he just have a heart attack while having a crap.....

poor crap - getting so bad name

[Astrodragon]

In TTL, there is no reason for MacArthur, assuming he gets out of the PI OK, to be given overall command. Why should he?

The Allies are providing 90% of the forces in the DEI/Malaya area, and that isnt likely to change for some months. Why should a US General, who is the only commander to have lost to the Japanese (islands such as Wake et al dont count, they, like Hong Kong, were always hostages) be put in charge of the Empire forces?? Alexander is doing that job quite nicely.