Map Thread IX

[Klisz]

Originally Posted by Iserlohn

The final version of my "Napoleon III in 1830"-map, special thanks to wolf_brother, but also B_Munro and Iori for their heated discussion which was very good background for improvement.

Is the color scheme in Mexico intentionally reminiscent of the US flag, or was that accidental?

[Beedok]

Wonder if anyone can decipher this work in progress.

[Tallest Skil]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Wonder if anyone can decipher this work in progress.

Gonna guess Draka, subsidiaries, and influences.

[oshron]

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

Gonna guess Draka, subsidiaries, and influences.

im thinking alternate human migration myself, with tones indicating rough skin color of those populations

[Petros >Peter Fergus<]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Wonder if anyone can decipher this work in progress.

The range of Homo Sapiens, Homo Neanderthalensis, and possibly Homo Erectus, and where they overlap or are not well established.

[Jajax]

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

Gonna guess Draka, subsidiaries, and influences.

It looks like a factual/statistical map to me. My first thought was hair color, but that's pretty obviously incorrect. But something like that.

EDIT: I think the two people above me have it.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Petros >Peter Fergus<

The range of Homo Sapiens, Homo Neanderthalensis, and possibly Homo Erectus, and where they overlap or are not well established.

Correct! Only missing the Denisova Hominin.

[Petros >Peter Fergus<]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Correct! Only missing the Denisova Hominin.

D'oh! I can see now that the Neanderthal color doesn't extend into the north!

I am very interested in seeing where this map goes, BTW. Hominid AH has been tickling at the back of my brain for some time now, but I can't think of anything good to jump off from.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Petros >Peter Fergus<

D'oh! I can see now that the Neanderthal color doesn't extend into the north!

I am very interested in seeing where this map goes, BTW. Hominid AH has been tickling at the back of my brain for some time now, but I can't think of anything good to jump off from.

Yeah, my plan actually involves the other Hominids surviving due to a outbranching of Erectus that is quite succesful. All I have concrete about them is that they are to be nocturnal and have pointy ears (the ears got a little pointy to adapt to more hearing, and then sexual selection exagerated the feature, in part to ensure that the mate was truly their species). Still working out a bunch of other things.

[Revolutionary Todyo]

Originally Posted by Petros >Peter Fergus<

D'oh! I can see now that the Neanderthal color doesn't extend into the north!

I am very interested in seeing where this map goes, BTW. Hominid AH has been tickling at the back of my brain for some time now, but I can't think of anything good to jump off from.

I always liked the idea of different branches of Hominids becoming the races of our mythology. Why not something like that? Take a popular legend, and adapt it to an early bronze age setting

Originally Posted by Beedok

Yeah, my plan actually involves the other Hominids surviving due to a outbranching of Erectus that is quite succesful. All I have concrete about them is that they are to be nocturnal and have pointy ears (the ears got a little pointy to adapt to more hearing, and then sexual selection exagerated the feature, in part to ensure that the mate was truly their species). Still working out a bunch of other things.

Elves!

Psychic ninja'd?

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Todyo1798

Elves!

Psychic ninja'd?

More like pointy eared Huns. They don't exaclty have delicate elfin features, carrying several Erectus base traits. Though with Hobbits running around I suppose they can get the nickname Elves (though Orcs may be a little more appropriate based off of their culture! ), and Dwarves for the Neanderthals as always.

[Alex Richards]

Originally Posted by Beedok

More like pointy eared Huns. They don't exaclty have delicate elfin features, carrying several Erectus base traits. Though with Hobbits running around I suppose they can get the nickname Elves (though Orcs may be a little more appropriate based off of their culture! ), and Dwarves for the Neanderthals as always.

Actually, given that Elves have been historically seen often as cruel tricksters who steal babies from cots, elves might well be used even without delicate features. Probably as a racial slur initially.

[Beedok]

Well, here's the old world finished. The new world is always a dilemma.

[Petros >Peter Fergus<]

Have you guys read Blindsight? Involves vampires as a hominid eating hominid that went extinct, but not before leaving a genetic fossil in our genome. The origin for our vampire stories, in that setting. And their genetic legacy is also the origin of autism and sociopath spectrum disorders.

The story itself is on first contact, the vampires are just background. http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm

But there is also some stuff on vampire biology elsewhere; http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=1225

I was considering a setting (with map, hopefully) of what I call 'Peter Watts Paleolithic', which would have vampires, as well as something like giants and dwarves and whatever. Maybe frame it as a map of some archaeological sites around the Rift Valley, with a notional map of the extent of each species, and the extent of a proto-civilisation in the area.

[Revolutionary Todyo]

Originally Posted by Beedok

More like pointy eared Huns. They don't exaclty have delicate elfin features, carrying several Erectus base traits. Though with Hobbits running around I suppose they can get the nickname Elves (though Orcs may be a little more appropriate based off of their culture! ), and Dwarves for the Neanderthals as always.

Actually considering Neabderthal noses I thought they might work for the traditional Scandinavian troll.

I do love the idea that the old legends are just about our distant cousins who we brutally wiped off the face of the earth

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Todyo1798

Actually considering Neabderthal noses I thought they might work for the traditional Scandinavian troll.

I do love the idea that the old legends are just about our distant cousins who we brutally wiped off the face of the earth

I think there was a Beowulf movie were Grendell was one of the last Neanderthals.

[Faeelin]

Originally Posted by Iserlohn

The final version of my "Napoleon III in 1830"-map; special thanks to wolf_brother, but also B_Munro and Iori for their heated discussion which was very good background for improvement.

Oh, AH.Com. "What if the Maori didn't settle New Zealand?"

"We can be sure the outcome would ultimately entail Grossdeustchland."

[Faeelin]

Originally Posted by Petros >Peter Fergus<

Have you guys read Blindsight? Involves vampires as a hominid eating hominid that went extinct, but not before leaving a genetic fossil in our genome. The origin for our vampire stories, in that setting. And their genetic legacy is also the origin of autism and sociopath spectrum disorders.

Man, I forgot how depressing that was.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Faeelin

Oh, AH.Com. "What if the Maori didn't settle New Zealand?"

"We can be sure the outcome would ultimately entail Grossdeustchland."

Don't forget Greek Anatolia. Oh, and that border.

[Revolutionary Todyo]

Originally Posted by Petros >Peter Fergus<

Have you guys read Blindsight? Involves vampires as a hominid eating hominid that went extinct, but not before leaving a genetic fossil in our genome. The origin for our vampire stories, in that setting. And their genetic legacy is also the origin of autism and sociopath spectrum disorders.

I was considering a setting (with map, hopefully) of what I call 'Peter Watts Paleolithic', which would have vampires, as well as something like giants and dwarves and whatever. Maybe frame it as a map of some archaeological sites around the Rift Valley, with a notional map of the extent of each species, and the extent of a proto-civilisation in the area.

Yeah I remember that one. Creepy as hell but still pretty cool.

Though giants and dwarves in the Rift valley? If you want "giants" to evolve I suggest they break from Homo Erectus quite soon after reaching the Middle East and head to Northern Europe. They'll be rather like the giants from ASOIAF, one rung above Bigfoot on the evolutionary ladder, but if they can speak, make fire, use tools and are have the average height of ~10ft then I'd call them giants.

Dwarves are harder. If you make the subterranean then what's to stop them just devolving you know?

Originally Posted by Beedok

I think there was a Beowulf movie were Grendell was one of the last Neanderthals.

That's actually rather epic.

Originally Posted by Faeelin

Oh, AH.Com. "What if the Maori didn't settle New Zealand?"

"We can be sure the outcome would ultimately entail Grossdeustchland."

You cannot prove it wouldn't happen!!!! ()