Map Thread IX

[Iori]

Originally Posted by decker

Yes, at first I was just interested in having a go at the Balladur proposal which tried to find ways to shrink the number of regions.

Then I tried to add proportionality in the way of the Bundestag.

Finally I made such a nice spreadsheet, that I tried taking my original assembly size from 500 to 300 and see what happened, in terms of over representations.

Hope you like it, took me lots of formula writing before I had results the felt good enough to try to put them in a graphic form...

I was meaning the change to a Winner Take All system of FPTP rather than reducing size.

Anyways, it is a very aesthetic map though.

[decker]

Originally Posted by Iori

I was meaning the change to a Winner Take All system of FPTP rather than reducing size.

Anyways, it is a very aesthetic map though.

Thanks for the comments.

At first I thought you where implying a democratic set back, but I personally consider this a democratic progress, even though it might be strange for someone to consider at first glance going from 2 to 1 round as such.

Indeed, as you may know Approval voting, is a 1 round voting system, which can yield more satisfactory results than a 1 or 2 round plurality system. It lets you express your opinions on the multiple candidates, and limits a certain number weaknesses to strategic voting present in other systems.

However it depends what one takes into account to judge a system satisfactory...

I was trying to 'fix' the Bundestag election method rather than 'fixing' the one used in the National Assembly, which is in my opinion beyond 'repair'. For some time now the French governments talk about putting dose of proportionality in this election.

A side note I'm not certain that the method I used to allocate the seats to the departments and regions are equivalent to the true Sainte-Laguë method. ..

If you want to PM me your opinions on proportionality, approval voting or electoral mathematics, be my guest.

[Autanimous]

Originally Posted by oshron

first map ive made for my rough "Anglo-American Rivalry" idea. the gist of it is that the US and the UK never get on good terms again and remain at odds with each other ad infinitum. this map is set around 1815, three years into TTL's War of 1812 (which instead lasts eight years). the invasion of Canada by the US is more successful, hence the occupation of the regions bordering New England. there's also Royal Navy bombardments of American coastal cities (particularly Boston), a Second Battle of New York which ends in a US victory led by Winfield Scott, American raids on the English coast, and several conflicts like the Aroostook War for about the next half-century. not much has changed in terms of what the map looks like (there's some minor changes that are more aesthetic choice on my part than anything else, attributable to butterflies), but it will be building up to more significant changes

i DID, however, make this entire map from scratch even though its directly based on maps so graciously provided in the "basemaps in UCS" thread. this is also alot more simplified than some of my other maps because i dont know the exact status of most of the countries' overseas territories in relation to the rest. it also uses a much more standard color scheme than my other ones

Thats quite an interesting scenario. I complete antagonism from the 'hopefully still rising' U.S. superpower from the UK.

In the long run, the U.S. has a long way to develop, and with the UK sort of against them the entire way I wonder if it may stunt their growth in the long run, or simply force them to be so much more over-assertive that some of the smaller details that were more difficult OTL will become easier. Should you continue this, know you will have at least one interested person ^.^

Otherwise good job!

[xphile2868]

Originally Posted by ZachScape

EDIT: Used this awesome tutorial by Sapiento for the effects. Credit is due.

I decided to try out the tutorial myself. My effort doesn't look anywhere near as good as the one in the tutorial, but I think it's not a bad first try.

[The Kiat]

Looks like a new version of Risk.

[Kaiphranos]

Originally Posted by Prime Minister

Flag of the Kingdom of Canada

Someone's got a case of Map-Flag Confusion Syndrome...

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Kaiphranos

Someone's got a case of Map-Flag Confusion Syndrome...

Uncommonly common those days...

[Prime Minister]

bugger sorry

[Youkai]

Just to celebrate the map thread reaching 100 pages, a friend and I made a map of our region in NationStates.
(nothing much to say, though )

[oshron]

Originally Posted by Autanimous

Thats quite an interesting scenario. I complete antagonism from the 'hopefully still rising' U.S. superpower from the UK.

In the long run, the U.S. has a long way to develop, and with the UK sort of against them the entire way I wonder if it may stunt their growth in the long run, or simply force them to be so much more over-assertive that some of the smaller details that were more difficult OTL will become easier. Should you continue this, know you will have at least one interested person ^.^

Otherwise good job!

im actually working on the next map right now, set in 1830

[ZachScape]

Originally Posted by ZachScape

My first Map of the Fortnight entry.

EDIT: Used this awesome tutorial by Sapiento for the effects. Credit is due.

Surprised I didn't get any comments. I personally find it incredible to imagine what an Imperial Germany Wank looks like outside of Europe.

I'd appreciate any suggestions to make it better or anything along those lines.

Originally Posted by xphile2868

I decided to try out the tutorial myself. My effort doesn't look anywhere near as good as the one in the tutorial, but I think it's not a bad first try.

Looks like you missed a bunch of steps towards the end, including the clouding and canvas background. As a tip, for larger maps, increase the radius of the outlining beyond that suggested by Sapiento. It was a good first try, just keep working on it and experimenting and I'm sure you'll get much better in no time (that is not to say your work is not already impressive).

[Sapiento]

Originally Posted by xphile2868

I decided to try out the tutorial myself. My effort doesn't look anywhere near as good as the one in the tutorial, but I think it's not a bad first try.

Not bad for a first try! The more maps you do the better you get.

Originally Posted by ZachScape

Surprised I didn't get any comments. I personally find it incredible to imagine what an Imperial Germany Wank looks like outside of Europe.

I'd appreciate any suggestions to make it better or anything along those lines.



Looks like you missed a bunch of steps towards the end, including the clouding and canvas background. As a tip, for larger maps, increase the radius of the outlining beyond that suggested by Sapiento. It was a good first try, just keep working on it and experimenting and I'm sure you'll get much better in no time (that is not to say your work is not already impressive).

Good start, but the map is rather small. Try to enlarge it and use brighter labels for it or dark ones with a bright outline.

[CoolMan123]

The Year is 1945

World War II has finished. Germany has been defeated in Europe.

Japan, a former Ally has taken over most of the Pacific.

Italy is allying with Japan. They have taken over Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Ethiopia, part of Yemen, Albania, and Slovenia.

What will the remaining Allies do?

The world is on the brink of World War III.

ALLIES:
· MAJORS: Britain & Empire, France & Empire, United States & Territories, Soviet Union & Occupied Regions
· MINORS: Greece, Turkey

AXIS 2.0:
· MAJORS: Japan & Empire, Italy & Empire, Hispania & Empire
· MINORS: Bolivia, Republic of Gran Colombia

NEUTRALS:
· Scandia, Denmark (incl Iceland & Greenland), Netherlands, Union of Central America, Patagonian Union

[deathgod]

Originally Posted by CoolMan123

The Year is 1945

World War II has finished. Germany has been defeated in Europe.

Japan, a former Ally has taken over most of the Pacific.

Italy is allying with Japan. They have taken over Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Ethiopia, part of Yemen, Albania, and Slovenia.

What will the remaining Allies do?

The world is on the brink of World War III.

ALLIES:
· MAJORS: Britain & Empire, France & Empire, United States & Territories, Soviet Union & Occupied Regions
· MINORS: Greece, Turkey

AXIS 2.0:
· MAJORS: Japan & Empire, Italy & Empire, Hispania & Empire
· MINORS: Bolivia, Republic of Gran Colombia

NEUTRALS:
· Scandia, Denmark (incl Iceland & Greenland), Netherlands, Union of Central America, Patagonian Union

Dude ... first of all, use the latest map. There is a freaking sea between Canada and New England ... secondly, don't. Just ... don't.

[CoolMan123]

Originally Posted by deathgod

Dude ... first of all, use the latest map. There is a freaking sea between Canada and New England ... secondly, don't. Just ... don't.

That is the 1945 basemap. I just edited it a bit

[jkarr]

Originally Posted by CoolMan123

The Year is 1945

first....how did italy get to keep its posessions when it was allied with germany, then got invaded, then got invaded by germany and then allied invaded a last time

second...how did sweeden absorbed norway

third....how the fuck did the japanese manage to take the west coast and keep its asian holdings

and last but not least.....wtf happened to panama, southern california and new england/st lawrence river areas¿?¿?????

[CoolMan123]

Originally Posted by jkarr

first....how did italy get to keep its posessions when it was allied with germany, then got invaded, then got invaded by germany and then allied invaded a last time

Italy was on the Allies side in WWII then betrayed them.

Originally Posted by jkarr

second...how did sweeden absorbed norway

They banded together as neutrals.

Originally Posted by jkarr

third....how the fuck did the japanee manage to take the west coast and keep its asian holdings

By sheer force.

Originally Posted by jkarr

and last but not least.....wtf happened to panama, southern california and new england/st lawrence river areas¿?¿?????

Panama got nuked by Japan.

Japanese made Baja California an island

And USA & Canada made a canal from St Laurence to Great Lakes.

[Krall]

Originally Posted by CoolMan123

The Year is 1945

World War II has finished. Germany has been defeated in Europe.

Japan, a former Ally has taken over most of the Pacific.

Italy is allying with Japan. They have taken over Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Ethiopia, part of Yemen, Albania, and Slovenia.

What will the remaining Allies do?

The world is on the brink of World War III.

ALLIES:
· MAJORS: Britain & Empire, France & Empire, United States & Territories, Soviet Union & Occupied Regions
· MINORS: Greece, Turkey

AXIS 2.0:
· MAJORS: Japan & Empire, Italy & Empire, Hispania & Empire
· MINORS: Bolivia, Republic of Gran Colombia

NEUTRALS:
· Scandia, Denmark (incl Iceland & Greenland), Netherlands, Union of Central America, Patagonian Union

There are a huge number of unexplained things in this map - to produce an exhaustive list would be rather tedious, so I'll try and address the most obvious ones.

1. How did Japan beat the USA in the Pacific, and then subsequently invade, occupy and annex the West Coast?

2. Why did certain members of the Allies decide to annex vast swathes of Germany (and other countries, like Belgium, Switzerland, Poland, etc.) and why did all the other allies let them?

3. Why are there gigantic sea-sized troughs gouged through some of the world's largest peninsulas, isthmuses and along the St. Lawrence River?

[CoolMan123]

Originally Posted by Krall

There are a huge number of unexplained things in this map - to produce an exhaustive list would be rather tedious, so I'll try and address the most obvious ones.

1. How did Japan beat the USA in the Pacific, and then subsequently invade, occupy and annex the West Coast?

They had support from South American countries (& secretly from Soviet Union).

Originally Posted by Krall

2. Why did certain members of the Allies decide to annex vast swathes of Germany (and other countries, like Belgium, Switzerland, Poland, etc.) and why did all the other allies let them?

UK & France wanted to be on the good side of the Soviet Union so they let them occupy everything up to Germany. Clemenceaus "weak germany" plan was put into effect. One bit was given to Holland. Alsace Lorraine was given to France. The other bit was used as a buffer zone between France and Soviet Union. And East Germany was annexed by Soviet Union.

Austria was also split in same way.

Oh and Belgium wanted protection so they joined with France.

Originally Posted by Krall

3. Why are there gigantic sea-sized troughs gouged through some of the world's largest peninsulas, isthmuses and along the St. Lawrence River?

Rising sea levels

[Kaiphranos]

Originally Posted by CoolMan123

And USA & Canada made a canal from St Laurence to Great Lakes.

I'm not sure you quite understand how canals work...