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What if the great conquistador Hernán Cortés decides to kill Pánfilo de Narváez when he defeats his small army of 1,100 men at Cēmpoalātl (Cempoala) in May 1520, instead of taking him prisoner?
After a successful night ambush, Cortés captures Narváez and is overcome with anger as Narváez describes how Cortés is wanted for treason against the Spanish Empire. When his enemy begins to describe how he'll be executed when he's caught, Cortés loses control. He unsheathes his sword and stabs him in the gut. Realizing that Narváez won’t die quickly from his first wound he stabs him a second time with a thrust to the vital organs. Narváez bleeds out and dies shortly thereafter.
His men are shocked; it wasn’t good form to kill a fellow Spaniard in cold blood, especially in response to being condemned as a traitor to the Spanish Empire. It's almost like Cortés knows that he is a criminal and accepts it. The unnerving and disheartening nature of it all makes convincing Narváez’s men to follow Cortés to gold and glory a little bit more difficult, but it happens anyway. He leads them back to Tenochtitlan where Alvarado has pissed off the Aztecs by causing a massacre during a religious festivity. On the trip back, though, the memory of murdering Narváez pushes Hernán Cortés to a dark place. He begins to take very seriously a plan that has been knocking around his head for a while: taking the great Indian metropolis for himself instead of handing it over to King Carlos I after he's done conquering it. It seems like he’d increase his chances of living if he just outright rebels against his homeland.
There are so many damn butterflies possible during the events to come that this darker, more rebellious Cortés might not even be as successful as he was in OTL. Take La Noche Triste, for instance, which is coming up fast. The timeline could easily change to “WI Cortés and his men are massacred in 1520?” which we've talked about before. Could this different Cortés decide to take a different route in escaping from Tenochtitlan, perhaps along the north causeway which would involve a longer route through the city, but a safer one and a shorter distance to Tlaxcala on the other side? Perhaps the southern causeway? If they still decide to take the shorter western route out of the city, they could be killed, and it is very likely Alvarado will die. His escape in OTL was very lucky. Maybe Cortés’ altered objectives cause him to avoid overburdening himself and his men with the gold and treasures of the palace and more Spaniards would survive. But, the Battle of Otumba might not be butterflied away and that was a dangerous time as well for the Spanish.
Once he arrives in Tlaxcala, it is likely he will succeed in re-establishing his alliance, but what about the reinforcements he received from the Spanish colonies at this time? It is estimated that in OTL nearly 500 Spaniards joined Cortés group in the interval between La Noche Triste and the Siege of Tenochtitlan, and they were supplied intermittently with horses, harquebuses, crossbows and cannons from Veracruz. Is it possible he will receive less reinforcements or even no resupply whatsoever if it is discovered in Cuba that he had murdered Narváez? I mean, in OTL it was already known that Narváez had been imprisoned at Veracruz, but murder could be different. I assume most of that resupply wasn’t official, rather, it was provided by Cortés’ friends and allies in the Caribbean, but news of murder could have spurred Velazquez to take an even harsher stance against Cortés and limit resupply.
Even if he does get his reinforcements and supplies, the siege of Tenochtitlan could have gone awry. The rebellious tributary states were ready to leave their alliance with the Spanish with the first notice of failure at the battlefront. Cortés himself faced some dangerous moments when he could have lost his life, and without their ingenious leader, the Spanish would have been forced to flee to Veracruz and few would have survived.
What if the news of Cortés murdering Narváez in cold blood leads to a formal response from King Carlos I himself? If Velazquez sends word immediately in June 1520, Carlos I could be informed by the end of the year. He would likely send some kind of expedition to arrest the rebel conquistador, a small army of at least 3,000 men I would think and possibly more than that. Such a force could arrive at Cuba by July of 1521 and make landfall at Veracruz by August, just as Cortés might be finishing up his conquest. And, provided that Cortés is still around and has attained victory over the Aztecs in Tenochtitlan, what might happen if Cortés decides to turn his forces against this punitive expedition?
We’ve all seen Cuauhtemoc’s awesome timeline concerning a turncoat Cortés, but even he would admit that he has to go to considerable lengths in order to procure such an easy and graceful set-up to nation-building. Without pushing the timeline towards any one direction, what would likely happen if Hernán Cortés decides to turn against the Spanish throne?
This is all just food for thought so please; any and all kinds of comments are welcome even if you don’t answer any of the questions I’ve asked directly.
After a successful night ambush, Cortés captures Narváez and is overcome with anger as Narváez describes how Cortés is wanted for treason against the Spanish Empire. When his enemy begins to describe how he'll be executed when he's caught, Cortés loses control. He unsheathes his sword and stabs him in the gut. Realizing that Narváez won’t die quickly from his first wound he stabs him a second time with a thrust to the vital organs. Narváez bleeds out and dies shortly thereafter.
His men are shocked; it wasn’t good form to kill a fellow Spaniard in cold blood, especially in response to being condemned as a traitor to the Spanish Empire. It's almost like Cortés knows that he is a criminal and accepts it. The unnerving and disheartening nature of it all makes convincing Narváez’s men to follow Cortés to gold and glory a little bit more difficult, but it happens anyway. He leads them back to Tenochtitlan where Alvarado has pissed off the Aztecs by causing a massacre during a religious festivity. On the trip back, though, the memory of murdering Narváez pushes Hernán Cortés to a dark place. He begins to take very seriously a plan that has been knocking around his head for a while: taking the great Indian metropolis for himself instead of handing it over to King Carlos I after he's done conquering it. It seems like he’d increase his chances of living if he just outright rebels against his homeland.
There are so many damn butterflies possible during the events to come that this darker, more rebellious Cortés might not even be as successful as he was in OTL. Take La Noche Triste, for instance, which is coming up fast. The timeline could easily change to “WI Cortés and his men are massacred in 1520?” which we've talked about before. Could this different Cortés decide to take a different route in escaping from Tenochtitlan, perhaps along the north causeway which would involve a longer route through the city, but a safer one and a shorter distance to Tlaxcala on the other side? Perhaps the southern causeway? If they still decide to take the shorter western route out of the city, they could be killed, and it is very likely Alvarado will die. His escape in OTL was very lucky. Maybe Cortés’ altered objectives cause him to avoid overburdening himself and his men with the gold and treasures of the palace and more Spaniards would survive. But, the Battle of Otumba might not be butterflied away and that was a dangerous time as well for the Spanish.
Once he arrives in Tlaxcala, it is likely he will succeed in re-establishing his alliance, but what about the reinforcements he received from the Spanish colonies at this time? It is estimated that in OTL nearly 500 Spaniards joined Cortés group in the interval between La Noche Triste and the Siege of Tenochtitlan, and they were supplied intermittently with horses, harquebuses, crossbows and cannons from Veracruz. Is it possible he will receive less reinforcements or even no resupply whatsoever if it is discovered in Cuba that he had murdered Narváez? I mean, in OTL it was already known that Narváez had been imprisoned at Veracruz, but murder could be different. I assume most of that resupply wasn’t official, rather, it was provided by Cortés’ friends and allies in the Caribbean, but news of murder could have spurred Velazquez to take an even harsher stance against Cortés and limit resupply.
Even if he does get his reinforcements and supplies, the siege of Tenochtitlan could have gone awry. The rebellious tributary states were ready to leave their alliance with the Spanish with the first notice of failure at the battlefront. Cortés himself faced some dangerous moments when he could have lost his life, and without their ingenious leader, the Spanish would have been forced to flee to Veracruz and few would have survived.
What if the news of Cortés murdering Narváez in cold blood leads to a formal response from King Carlos I himself? If Velazquez sends word immediately in June 1520, Carlos I could be informed by the end of the year. He would likely send some kind of expedition to arrest the rebel conquistador, a small army of at least 3,000 men I would think and possibly more than that. Such a force could arrive at Cuba by July of 1521 and make landfall at Veracruz by August, just as Cortés might be finishing up his conquest. And, provided that Cortés is still around and has attained victory over the Aztecs in Tenochtitlan, what might happen if Cortés decides to turn his forces against this punitive expedition?
We’ve all seen Cuauhtemoc’s awesome timeline concerning a turncoat Cortés, but even he would admit that he has to go to considerable lengths in order to procure such an easy and graceful set-up to nation-building. Without pushing the timeline towards any one direction, what would likely happen if Hernán Cortés decides to turn against the Spanish throne?
This is all just food for thought so please; any and all kinds of comments are welcome even if you don’t answer any of the questions I’ve asked directly.
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