Fallout: AFRICAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[KCammy]

I'm jumping on the bandwagon, really. Working towards a map I'll be putting alot of effort into.

Any thoughts/ideas?

[jkarr]

Originally Posted by KCammy

I'm jumping on the bandwagon, really. Working towards a map I'll be putting alot of effort into.

Any thoughts/ideas?

i doubt it was even affected much....most likly itd be like modern africa...warlords running about, high famie rate, religous turmoil, rampant diseas.. just with less resoruces due to overmining

[Marius]

Originally Posted by jkarr

i doubt it was even affected much....most likly itd be like modern africa...warlords running about, high famie rate, religous turmoil, rampant diseas.. just with less resoruces due to overmining

Cause that's exactly what Africa is like today

[jkarr]

Originally Posted by Marius

Cause that's exactly what Africa is like today

not all of it no...but a alrge majority in the center and along alot of coastlines yes

[Marius]

Originally Posted by jkarr

not all of it no...but a alrge majority in the center and along alot of coastlines yes

Which coastlines?

Somalia?

Where else?

And in the north-eastern Congo.

Hardly a continent with "warlords running about, high famie rate, religous turmoil, rampant diseas"

[jkarr]

Originally Posted by Marius

Which coastlines?

Somalia?

Where else?

And in the north-eastern Congo.

Hardly a continent with "warlords running about, high famie rate, religous turmoil, rampant diseas"

Post-colonial Africa
Today, Africa contains 54 sovereign countries, most of which still have the borders drawn during the era of European colonialism. Since colonialism, African states have frequently been hampered by instability, corruption, violence, and authoritarianism. The vast majority of African states are republics that operate under some form of the presidential system of rule. However, few of them have been able to sustain democratic governments on a permanent basis, and many have instead cycled through a series of coups, producing military dictatorships.

Great instability was mainly the result of marginalization of ethnic groups, and graft under these leaders. For political gain, many leaders fanned ethnic conflicts that had been exacerbated, or even created, by colonial rule. In many countries, the military was perceived as being the only group that could effectively maintain order, and it ruled many nations in Africa during the 1970s and early 1980s. During the period from the early 1960s to the late 1980s, Africa had more than 70 coups and 13 presidential assassinations. Border and territorial disputes were also common, with the European-imposed borders of many nations being widely contested through armed conflicts.

Cold War conflicts between the United States and the Soviet Union, as well as the policies of the International Monetary Fund, also played a role in instability. When a country became independent for the first time, it was often expected to align with one of the two superpowers. Many countries in Northern Africa received Soviet military aid, while many in Central and Southern Africa were supported by the United States, France or both. The 1970s saw an escalation, as newly independent Angola and Mozambique aligned themselves with the Soviet Union, and the West and South Africa sought to contain Soviet influence by funding insurgency movements. There was a major famine in Ethiopia, when hundreds of thousands of people starved. Some claimed that Marxist/Soviet policies made the situation worse.

The most devastating military conflict in modern independent Africa has been the Second Congo War. By 2008, this conflict and its aftermath had killed 5.4 million people. Since 2003 there has been an ongoing conflict in Darfur which has become a humanitarian disaster. AIDS has also been a prevalent issue in post-colonial Africa.

just a brief summary of whats happened in modern africa since end of colonialism....
thats what i meant by modern africa and the warlod, diseases, religous stuff...and if you paid any attention to it today, youd see that alot of it is in tourmoil, outside of all the big cities (and some of these are highly affected)...another would be racial discrimination on some areas fo the continenet...

just becauses its not blasted on the news everyday, doesnt mean the things im said arent happening...try looking into each nation respectivly and youll get what i mean

also..all this...woulve being greatly aggrevated during the fallout timeline

[Marius]

Originally Posted by jkarr

Post-colonial Africa
Today, Africa contains 54 sovereign countries, most of which still have the borders drawn during the era of European colonialism. Since colonialism, African states have frequently been hampered by instability, corruption, violence, and authoritarianism. The vast majority of African states are republics that operate under some form of the presidential system of rule. However, few of them have been able to sustain democratic governments on a permanent basis, and many have instead cycled through a series of coups, producing military dictatorships.

Great instability was mainly the result of marginalization of ethnic groups, and graft under these leaders. For political gain, many leaders fanned ethnic conflicts that had been exacerbated, or even created, by colonial rule. In many countries, the military was perceived as being the only group that could effectively maintain order, and it ruled many nations in Africa during the 1970s and early 1980s. During the period from the early 1960s to the late 1980s, Africa had more than 70 coups and 13 presidential assassinations. Border and territorial disputes were also common, with the European-imposed borders of many nations being widely contested through armed conflicts.

Cold War conflicts between the United States and the Soviet Union, as well as the policies of the International Monetary Fund, also played a role in instability. When a country became independent for the first time, it was often expected to align with one of the two superpowers. Many countries in Northern Africa received Soviet military aid, while many in Central and Southern Africa were supported by the United States, France or both. The 1970s saw an escalation, as newly independent Angola and Mozambique aligned themselves with the Soviet Union, and the West and South Africa sought to contain Soviet influence by funding insurgency movements. There was a major famine in Ethiopia, when hundreds of thousands of people starved. Some claimed that Marxist/Soviet policies made the situation worse.

The most devastating military conflict in modern independent Africa has been the Second Congo War. By 2008, this conflict and its aftermath had killed 5.4 million people. Since 2003 there has been an ongoing conflict in Darfur which has become a humanitarian disaster. AIDS has also been a prevalent issue in post-colonial Africa.

just a brief summary of whats happened in modern africa since end of colonialism....
thats what i meant by modern africa and the warlod, diseases, religous stuff...and if you paid any attention to it today, youd see that alot of it is in tourmoil, outside of all the big cities (and some of these are highly affected)...another would be racial discrimination on some areas fo the continenet...

just becauses its not blasted on the news everyday, doesnt mean the things im said arent happening...try looking into each nation respectivly and youll get what i mean

also..all this...woulve being greatly aggrevated during the fallout timeline

Its too much effort to argue.

Yes, Africa is full of blacks, running around in loincloths, fucking each other to death.

[jkarr]

Originally Posted by Marius

Its too much effort to argue.

Yes, Africa is full of blacks, running around in loincloths, fucking each other to death.

playing the *your a racist card* makes you look: a) like you havent even bothered to get what i mean and b) a twat

[Marius]

Originally Posted by jkarr

playing the *your a racist card* makes you look: a) like you havent even bothered to get what i mean and b) a twat

Answers:

a - maybe

b - probably

And it is "you're" not "your".

[Devilmaypoop]

i doubt it was even affected much....

Nuclear Winter affects Africa as much as it affects rest of the world. It's like U.S, but with less radiation. Complete anarchy.

[KCammy]

Originally Posted by Marius

Its too much effort to argue.

Yes, Africa is full of blacks, running around in loincloths, fucking each other to death.

[jkarr]

Originally Posted by Devilmaypoop

Nuclear Winter affects Africa as much as it affects rest of the world. It's like U.S, but with less radiation. Complete anarchy.

i dunno if nuclear winter happened in the fallout verse...they never explained it much

[John Farson]

For starters, I think you'd have a new version of the Barbary Pirates on the North African coast, with maybe one group led by a mad Gaddafi-like leader. Or maybe Gaddafi himself? After all, he might have been in suspended animation in a way similar to Mr House.

Egypt would have been almost wiped out with the nuking of the Aswan Dam and the subsequent tsunami, though the survivors might have formed a neo-Ancient Egyptian culture with all the stereotypical trappings. I'm thinking of Filmore Faro, the wannabe "Pharaoh of Memphis" from Judge Dredd.

Oh, and in such a setting, I'm sure there'd be a Tarzan influence somewhere.