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Old September 6th, 2011, 09:05 PM
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Wait so it's an Independent nation then, correct?
No, it joined the USA, similar like Texas.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 09:19 PM
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So... We're doing presidents for a pro-slavery south? I'm guessing the Emancipation party is a non-starter now then?
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Old September 6th, 2011, 09:33 PM
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I think the Emancipation Party could still have influence in states like Maryland, Delaware, maybe a Northwestern states I have up:

Heres my draft, what do you guys think?
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Old September 6th, 2011, 09:42 PM
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Ah. The south is a lot bigger than I realised, I was thinking along the lines of the OTL CSA. Assuming the light grey is the FSA. What is the dark green bit? Unincorporated territories?

Map is well drawn though, you used the proper colour for British imperial possessions and all.
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Ah. The south is a lot bigger than I realised, I was thinking along the lines of the OTL CSA. Assuming the light grey is the FSA. What is the dark green bit? Unincorporated territories?

Map is well drawn though, you used the proper colour for British imperial possessions and all.
The dark green is territories, yes. Yes the south is much bigger than the CSA. I assume there was a war with Mexico as well before the Civil War, so what exactly of California, Northern Mexico, etc? And Oregon, I would presume it stays British?

And thanks, I like making maps as good as possible. (Though I prefer the Paint program in Windows over the one in the Mac, maybe because I am used to it.)
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In paint? Are you freaking kidding me?! In that case, excellent job!

Incidentally, claiming next.

Edit: If there was a war with Mexico, and considering that the Great Powers now dislike the USA, maybe we can have some lost westward expansion in exchange for some southern expansion?
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1. George Washington (Independent - Virginia) 1789-1797 [1]
2. Samuel Adams (Democrat-Republican- Massachussets) 1797-1801 [2]
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democrat-Republican - Virginia) 1801-1805 [3]
4. Benedict Arnold (Federalist - Connecticut) 1805-1811 [4]
5. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist - Leeward Islands) 1811-1815 [5]
6. James Madison (Federalist - Virginia) 1815-1823
7. Albert Gallatin (Liberal - Pennsylvania) 1823-1837 [6]
8. Richard Rush (Federalist - Pennsylvania) 1837-1845
9. Samuel Houston (Liberal - Texas) 1845-1853 [7]
10. Geoffrey Adams (Federalist - Massachusetts) 1853-1857 [8]
11. Henry Jenkins (Liberal - Rio) 1857-1859 [9]
12. William Gladstone (Liberal - Nova Scotia) 1859-1861 [10]
13. Benjamin Disraeli (Neo Federalist - Kentucky) 1861-1865 [11]
14. Stephen F. Davis* (Conservative Federalist - Tennessee) 1865-1869 [12]
15. James Goodalming (Conservative Federalist - Orleans) 1869-1877 [13]
16. John Tyler Morgan (Populist - Alabama) 1877-1883 [14]
17. James L. Alcorn (Populist - West Florida) 1883-1889 [15]
17. Nathaniel T. Grant (Populist - Mississippi) 1889-1897 [16]

[1] First Vice President was John Adams, second was Benedict Arnold after John Adams had a falling out with him and the President.
[2] With both Arnold and John Adams having fallen from grace, the Federalist Party nominated a weak ticket with James McHenry for President. The Democratic-Republican ticket nominated the popular Samuel Adams for President and Thomas Jefferson for Vice-President, swiftly and comfortably winning the elections of 1796 and 1800.
[3] Adams refused to run again.
[4] Died in March of 1811 while in office. Alexander Hamilton is his Vice-President.
[5] As the (ATL) Consitution says, an new election must be held after a President's death. Hamilton won this. Charles Cotesworth "C.C." Pinckney was his VP.
[6] Albert Gallatin formed the Liberal Party from the remnants of the old Democratic-Republican Party, that had basically fallen apart since the death of Thomas Jefferson. Albert Gallatin would go on to win the 1824, 1828 and 1832 elections. He declined to run again in 1836
[7] Popular war hero from the British-Texan war, who led the movement for annexation of Texas by the United States. Ran on the Liberal platform with Robert Patton Crockett as his VP pick.
[8] Born Geoffrey Johnson, illegitimate son of John Adams, former governor of Massachusetts. Adams took his father's name upon reaching adulthood, his illegitimacy being an open secret among his family. He campaigned on his father's good name and connection to the core federalist cause, but won partly due to weariness of Houston, as people were concerned about having one man as president for too long. As a result, he presided over a hostile congress: the senate was initially Federalist, but throughout his term the Liberals were the largest faction in the House, albeit not a majority, as the fledgling Emancipation Party had taken a non-negligible number of seats in the northern states. Although he tried to avoid publicising it, his illegitimate nature lead to lingering doubts about his character throughout his presidency, and he declined to run for a second term.
[9] The most misunderstood President ever in the history of the United States. Born in an Mexican province by American patriots. The Republic of Rio (Not Bravo del Norte or Grande.) had him as their leader. He was Governor of the State of Rio, and was elected President. He killed himself in 1859, barely two years in his Presidency. It is accepted as fact that he was an closet homosexual.
[10] Though technically the third immigrant to rise to the presidency, Gladstone's ascent to the executive office would have been hindered had not President Geoffrey Adams introduced the Thirteenth amendment, repealing the natural-born citizen clause. Vice-President to and close friend of Henry Jenkins. Resigned in grief merely two months after being inaugurated for the second time in 1861 when his seven year old son Herbert drowned in an accident.
[11] Benjamin Disraeli was the fourth immigrant President and the first Jewish-born one. He was on relatively good terms with Gladstone, despite their conflicting political ideologies. He became part of the Pro-Emancipation faction of the broken Federalist Party, Neo Federalist.
[12] Riding on large "Nativist Hysteria," President Davis repealed the 13th Amendment making it impossible for someone not born in this country to become President. He also promoted Industrialization of the South through a gradual process as a means of stopping mounting tensions, however he remained a Pro-Slavery, Pro-American person. During his Presidency "Nativist" thought or the thought that only Americans should be President etc, etc grew, and the Neo-Federalist Party of which prior President Disraeli pertained, died out without many supporters left. The Neo-Federalist did not agree with the Repealing of the 13th Amendment.
[13] President Goodalming was President during the Civil War, in which the Federal States of America, containing the states of Maine, Nova Scotia, Massachussetts, Vermonte, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and all states north of the Ohio River seceded. A long and bloody Civil War followed, in which the North, with British and French support, sucessfully seceded from the Union.
[14] President Morgan had been one of the most vocal opponents of the secession and had criticized the Goodalming Administration for what he perceived as incompetence and lack of patriotism. He had once mused that every American suspected of having Federal sympathies should be arrested, tortured and put on trial for the charge of treason. President Morgan did not re-start the war with the Federal States, but he did commence great economic reforms, including a program of large-scale industrialization of the South, which relied greatly upon slave-power. Under his administration, the 18th Amendment was added to the Constitution, making it unconstitutional for the federal government to make slavery illegal for any state that would not consent to it. Assassinated by an escaped slave after leaving the theatre, having watched a production of Richard III, December 13 1883.
[15] President Morgan's VP, he became President after Morgan's death. He would later be re-elected in 1885, and chose not to run in 1888. Worked to continue the Rapid Industrialization of the United States. Re-integrated with European's after having German help in the Industrialization, German-American relations skyrocket. Was an advocate of the North re-joining the Union, however was still attacked by the Union Party(also known as the Warhead Party) who wished to rejoin the north through all means necessary. His Presidency was seen as a large success, and saw the Industrialization of the United States rise incredibly.
[16] Despite hand-over-fist gains for the Populist Party nationwide, Grant's administration was plagued by fears over the growing popularity locally of the Emancipation Party in the more northerly states, particularly in Delaware, where, in a loose coalition/compromise agreement with the Union Party, they had succeeded in passing the Slave Registration Act, which, among other things, made registration of all owned slaves compulsory (think car registration in modern times), and gave all slaves 3/5 of a vote. Grant maintained popularity by pushing through new legislation to inconvenience freedmen, seen by many of the landed classes to be the biggest threat to the nation. The Negro Transportation Act mandated the stopping and searching at state borders of all suspected slaves. Grant chose not to run for a third term due to advanced age.
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1. George Washington (Independent - Virginia) 1789-1797 [1]
2. Samuel Adams (Democrat-Republican- Massachussets) 1797-1801 [2]
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democrat-Republican - Virginia) 1801-1805 [3]
4. Benedict Arnold (Federalist - Connecticut) 1805-1811 [4]
5. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist - Leeward Islands) 1811-1815 [5]
6. James Madison (Federalist - Virginia) 1815-1823
7. Albert Gallatin (Liberal - Pennsylvania) 1823-1837 [6]
8. Richard Rush (Federalist - Pennsylvania) 1837-1845
9. Samuel Houston (Liberal - Texas) 1845-1853 [7]
10. Geoffrey Adams (Federalist - Massachusetts) 1853-1857 [8]
11. Henry Jenkins (Liberal - Rio) 1857-1859 [9]
12. William Gladstone (Liberal - Nova Scotia) 1859-1861 [10]
13. Benjamin Disraeli (Neo Federalist - Kentucky) 1861-1865 [11]
14. Stephen F. Davis* (Conservative Federalist - Tennessee) 1865-1869 [12]
15. James Goodalming (Conservative Federalist - Orleans) 1869-1877 [13]
16. John Tyler Morgan (Populist - Alabama) 1877-1883 [14]
17. James L. Alcorn (Populist - West Florida) 1883-1889 [15]
18. Nathaniel T. Grant (Populist - Mississippi) 1889-1897 [16]
19. Theodore "Teddy" B. Jackson (Populist - Mississippi) 1897-1917[17]

[1] First Vice President was John Adams, second was Benedict Arnold after John Adams had a falling out with him and the President.
[2] With both Arnold and John Adams having fallen from grace, the Federalist Party nominated a weak ticket with James McHenry for President. The Democratic-Republican ticket nominated the popular Samuel Adams for President and Thomas Jefferson for Vice-President, swiftly and comfortably winning the elections of 1796 and 1800.
[3] Adams refused to run again.
[4] Died in March of 1811 while in office. Alexander Hamilton is his Vice-President.
[5] As the (ATL) Consitution says, an new election must be held after a President's death. Hamilton won this. Charles Cotesworth "C.C." Pinckney was his VP.
[6] Albert Gallatin formed the Liberal Party from the remnants of the old Democratic-Republican Party, that had basically fallen apart since the death of Thomas Jefferson. Albert Gallatin would go on to win the 1824, 1828 and 1832 elections. He declined to run again in 1836
[7] Popular war hero from the British-Texan war, who led the movement for annexation of Texas by the United States. Ran on the Liberal platform with Robert Patton Crockett as his VP pick.
[8] Born Geoffrey Johnson, illegitimate son of John Adams, former governor of Massachusetts. Adams took his father's name upon reaching adulthood, his illegitimacy being an open secret among his family. He campaigned on his father's good name and connection to the core federalist cause, but won partly due to weariness of Houston, as people were concerned about having one man as president for too long. As a result, he presided over a hostile congress: the senate was initially Federalist, but throughout his term the Liberals were the largest faction in the House, albeit not a majority, as the fledgling Emancipation Party had taken a non-negligible number of seats in the northern states. Although he tried to avoid publicising it, his illegitimate nature lead to lingering doubts about his character throughout his presidency, and he declined to run for a second term.
[9] The most misunderstood President ever in the history of the United States. Born in an Mexican province by American patriots. The Republic of Rio (Not Bravo del Norte or Grande.) had him as their leader. He was Governor of the State of Rio, and was elected President. He killed himself in 1859, barely two years in his Presidency. It is accepted as fact that he was an closet homosexual.
[10] Though technically the third immigrant to rise to the presidency, Gladstone's ascent to the executive office would have been hindered had not President Geoffrey Adams introduced the Thirteenth amendment, repealing the natural-born citizen clause. Vice-President to and close friend of Henry Jenkins. Resigned in grief merely two months after being inaugurated for the second time in 1861 when his seven year old son Herbert drowned in an accident.
[11] Benjamin Disraeli was the fourth immigrant President and the first Jewish-born one. He was on relatively good terms with Gladstone, despite their conflicting political ideologies. He became part of the Pro-Emancipation faction of the broken Federalist Party, Neo Federalist.
[12] Riding on large "Nativist Hysteria," President Davis repealed the 13th Amendment making it impossible for someone not born in this country to become President. He also promoted Industrialization of the South through a gradual process as a means of stopping mounting tensions, however he remained a Pro-Slavery, Pro-American person. During his Presidency "Nativist" thought or the thought that only Americans should be President etc, etc grew, and the Neo-Federalist Party of which prior President Disraeli pertained, died out without many supporters left. The Neo-Federalist did not agree with the Repealing of the 13th Amendment.
[13] President Goodalming was President during the Civil War, in which the Federal States of America, containing the states of Maine, Nova Scotia, Massachussetts, Vermonte, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and all states north of the Ohio River seceded. A long and bloody Civil War followed, in which the North, with British and French support, sucessfully seceded from the Union.
[14] President Morgan had been one of the most vocal opponents of the secession and had criticized the Goodalming Administration for what he perceived as incompetence and lack of patriotism. He had once mused that every American suspected of having Federal sympathies should be arrested, tortured and put on trial for the charge of treason. President Morgan did not re-start the war with the Federal States, but he did commence great economic reforms, including a program of large-scale industrialization of the South, which relied greatly upon slave-power. Under his administration, the 18th Amendment was added to the Constitution, making it unconstitutional for the federal government to make slavery illegal for any state that would not consent to it. Assassinated by an escaped slave after leaving the theatre, having watched a production of Richard III, December 13 1883.
[15] President Morgan's VP, he became President after Morgan's death. He would later be re-elected in 1885, and chose not to run in 1888. Worked to continue the Rapid Industrialization of the United States. Re-integrated with European's after having German help in the Industrialization, German-American relations skyrocket. Was an advocate of the North re-joining the Union, however was still attacked by the Union Party(also known as the Warhead Party) who wished to rejoin the north through all means necessary. His Presidency was seen as a large success, and saw the Industrialization of the United States rise incredibly.
[16] Despite hand-over-fist gains for the Populist Party nationwide, Grant's administration was plagued by fears over the growing popularity locally of the Emancipation Party in the more northerly states, particularly in Delaware, where, in a loose coalition/compromise agreement with the Union Party, they had succeeded in passing the Slave Registration Act, which, among other things, made registration of all owned slaves compulsory (think car registration in modern times), and gave all slaves 3/5 of a vote. Grant maintained popularity by pushing through new legislation to inconvenience freedmen, seen by many of the landed classes to be the biggest threat to the nation. The Negro Transportation Act mandated the stopping and searching at state borders of all suspected slaves. Grant chose not to run for a third term due to advanced age.
[17] President Theodore B. Jackson is known as one of America's greatest leaders. Descended from a long line of military men, President Jackson gained popularity for his role in the Civil War, where he rose ranks, and led major campaigns around the wars end. It was even common to hear people say that if there had been another man like Jackson, the union would have never lost the war. He then entered the political life after the war, becoming Governor, and then Senator of South Carolina. Eventually he was made Secretary of Defense during the Alcorn Presidency, and Secretary of State during the Grant Presidency. He also held the record at the time of being elected and completing 5 terms as President. Winning the election in 1896 was hard with the growth of the new United America Party, which was a Co-alition of the Emancipation Party and the Unity Party. However, after winning he became a favorite. During his first term, he instated the Jackson Doctrine, declaring that Europeans had no right to remain in the America's. It stated that a European Power that would try to takeover more land in the America's would be at war with the United States. Surprisingly, and to the dismay of Great Britain and France, the FRA applauded this. He was a supporter of states rights, and believed that Slavery was an issue of the state. Industrialization continued during his terms, and with the help of the German Empire, the USA became an adapt, and completely industrialized power by the end of his 2nd term. He then began concentrating on the military. He supported Cuban Independence, and that would result in the Spanish American War, from 1901-1909, where all Caribbean Islands that Spain controlled would end up in American hands, including Puerto Rico, and the Spanish portion of Hispaniola. Cuba would become a state in 1917, just a week before the inauguration of the next President. His Presidency is seen as one of the greatest Presidencies of the United States. However, the American Party, which was formed in 1903 from the coalition of the United America Party, and the American Workers Party, would take control of Congress for the first time during his last term, and had shaken the Populist party to its core.
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1. George Washington (Independent - Virginia) 1789-1797 [1]
2. Samuel Adams (Democrat-Republican- Massachussets) 1797-1801 [2]
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democrat-Republican - Virginia) 1801-1805 [3]
4. Benedict Arnold (Federalist - Connecticut) 1805-1811 [4]
5. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist - Leeward Islands) 1811-1815 [5]
6. James Madison (Federalist - Virginia) 1815-1823
7. Albert Gallatin (Liberal - Pennsylvania) 1823-1837 [6]
8. Richard Rush (Federalist - Pennsylvania) 1837-1845
9. Samuel Houston (Liberal - Texas) 1845-1853 [7]
10. Geoffrey Adams (Federalist - Massachusetts) 1853-1857 [8]
11. Henry Jenkins (Liberal - Rio) 1857-1859 [9]
12. William Gladstone (Liberal - Nova Scotia) 1859-1861 [10]
13. Benjamin Disraeli (Neo Federalist - Kentucky) 1861-1865 [11]
14. Stephen F. Davis* (Conservative Federalist - Tennessee) 1865-1869 [12]
15. James Goodalming (Conservative Federalist - Orleans) 1869-1877 [13]
16. John Tyler Morgan (Populist - Alabama) 1877-1883 [14]
17. James L. Alcorn (Populist - West Florida) 1883-1889 [15]
18. Nathaniel T. Grant (Populist - Mississippi) 1889-1897 [16]
19. Theodore "Teddy" B. Jackson (Populist - Mississippi) 1897-1917 [17]
20.
Walter Rauschenbusch (American - Virginia) 1917-1918 [18]

[1] First Vice President was John Adams, second was Benedict Arnold after John Adams had a falling out with him and the President.
[2] With both Arnold and John Adams having fallen from grace, the Federalist Party nominated a weak ticket with James McHenry for President. The Democratic-Republican ticket nominated the popular Samuel Adams for President and Thomas Jefferson for Vice-President, swiftly and comfortably winning the elections of 1796 and 1800.
[3] Adams refused to run again.
[4] Died in March of 1811 while in office. Alexander Hamilton is his Vice-President.
[5] As the (ATL) Consitution says, an new election must be held after a President's death. Hamilton won this. Charles Cotesworth "C.C." Pinckney was his VP.
[6] Albert Gallatin formed the Liberal Party from the remnants of the old Democratic-Republican Party, that had basically fallen apart since the death of Thomas Jefferson. Albert Gallatin would go on to win the 1824, 1828 and 1832 elections. He declined to run again in 1836
[7] Popular war hero from the British-Texan war, who led the movement for annexation of Texas by the United States. Ran on the Liberal platform with Robert Patton Crockett as his VP pick.
[8] Born Geoffrey Johnson, illegitimate son of John Adams, former governor of Massachusetts. Adams took his father's name upon reaching adulthood, his illegitimacy being an open secret among his family. He campaigned on his father's good name and connection to the core federalist cause, but won partly due to weariness of Houston, as people were concerned about having one man as president for too long. As a result, he presided over a hostile congress: the senate was initially Federalist, but throughout his term the Liberals were the largest faction in the House, albeit not a majority, as the fledgling Emancipation Party had taken a non-negligible number of seats in the northern states. Although he tried to avoid publicising it, his illegitimate nature lead to lingering doubts about his character throughout his presidency, and he declined to run for a second term.
[9] The most misunderstood President ever in the history of the United States. Born in an Mexican province by American patriots. The Republic of Rio (Not Bravo del Norte or Grande.) had him as their leader. He was Governor of the State of Rio, and was elected President. He killed himself in 1859, barely two years in his Presidency. It is accepted as fact that he was an closet homosexual.
[10] Though technically the third immigrant to rise to the presidency, Gladstone's ascent to the executive office would have been hindered had not President Geoffrey Adams introduced the Thirteenth amendment, repealing the natural-born citizen clause. Vice-President to and close friend of Henry Jenkins. Resigned in grief merely two months after being inaugurated for the second time in 1861 when his seven year old son Herbert drowned in an accident.
[11] Benjamin Disraeli was the fourth immigrant President and the first Jewish-born one. He was on relatively good terms with Gladstone, despite their conflicting political ideologies. He became part of the Pro-Emancipation faction of the broken Federalist Party, Neo Federalist.
[12] Riding on large "Nativist Hysteria," President Davis repealed the 13th Amendment making it impossible for someone not born in this country to become President. He also promoted Industrialization of the South through a gradual process as a means of stopping mounting tensions, however he remained a Pro-Slavery, Pro-American person. During his Presidency "Nativist" thought or the thought that only Americans should be President etc, etc grew, and the Neo-Federalist Party of which prior President Disraeli pertained, died out without many supporters left. The Neo-Federalist did not agree with the Repealing of the 13th Amendment.
[13] President Goodalming was President during the Civil War, in which the Federal States of America, containing the states of Maine, Nova Scotia, Massachussetts, Vermonte, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and all states north of the Ohio River seceded. A long and bloody Civil War followed, in which the North, with British and French support, sucessfully seceded from the Union.
[14] President Morgan had been one of the most vocal opponents of the secession and had criticized the Goodalming Administration for what he perceived as incompetence and lack of patriotism. He had once mused that every American suspected of having Federal sympathies should be arrested, tortured and put on trial for the charge of treason. President Morgan did not re-start the war with the Federal States, but he did commence great economic reforms, including a program of large-scale industrialization of the South, which relied greatly upon slave-power. Under his administration, the 18th Amendment was added to the Constitution, making it unconstitutional for the federal government to make slavery illegal for any state that would not consent to it. Assassinated by an escaped slave after leaving the theatre, having watched a production of Richard III, December 13 1883.
[15] President Morgan's VP, he became President after Morgan's death. He would later be re-elected in 1885, and chose not to run in 1888. Worked to continue the Rapid Industrialization of the United States. Re-integrated with European's after having German help in the Industrialization, German-American relations skyrocket. Was an advocate of the North re-joining the Union, however was still attacked by the Union Party(also known as the Warhead Party) who wished to rejoin the north through all means necessary. His Presidency was seen as a large success, and saw the Industrialization of the United States rise incredibly.
[16] Despite hand-over-fist gains for the Populist Party nationwide, Grant's administration was plagued by fears over the growing popularity locally of the Emancipation Party in the more northerly states, particularly in Delaware, where, in a loose coalition/compromise agreement with the Union Party, they had succeeded in passing the Slave Registration Act, which, among other things, made registration of all owned slaves compulsory (think car registration in modern times), and gave all slaves 3/5 of a vote. Grant maintained popularity by pushing through new legislation to inconvenience freedmen, seen by many of the landed classes to be the biggest threat to the nation. The Negro Transportation Act mandated the stopping and searching at state borders of all suspected slaves. Grant chose not to run for a third term due to advanced age.
[17] President Theodore B. Jackson is known as one of America's greatest leaders. Descended from a long line of military men, President Jackson gained popularity for his role in the Civil War, where he rose ranks, and led major campaigns around the wars end. It was even common to hear people say that if there had been another man like Jackson, the union would have never lost the war. He then entered the political life after the war, becoming Governor, and then Senator of South Carolina. Eventually he was made Secretary of Defense during the Alcorn Presidency, and Secretary of State during the Grant Presidency. He also held the record at the time of being elected and completing 5 terms as President. Winning the election in 1896 was hard with the growth of the new United America Party, which was a Co-alition of the Emancipation Party and the Unity Party. However, after winning he became a favorite. During his first term, he instated the Jackson Doctrine, declaring that Europeans had no right to remain in the America's. It stated that a European Power that would try to takeover more land in the America's would be at war with the United States. Surprisingly, and to the dismay of Great Britain and France, the FRA applauded this. He was a supporter of states rights, and believed that Slavery was an issue of the state. Industrialization continued during his terms, and with the help of the German Empire, the USA became an adapt, and completely industrialized power by the end of his 2nd term. He then began concentrating on the military. He supported Cuban Independence, and that would result in the Spanish American War, from 1901-1909, where all Caribbean Islands that Spain controlled would end up in American hands, including Puerto Rico, and the Spanish portion of Hispaniola. Cuba would become a state in 1917, just a week before the inauguration of the next President. His Presidency is seen as one of the greatest Presidencies of the United States. However, the American Party, which was formed in 1903 from the coalition of the United America Party, and the American Workers Party, would take control of Congress for the first time during his last term, and had shaken the Populist party to its core.
[18] First President of the American Party. Though his election to the presidency was marginal (winning the key state of Louisiana with a margin of 286 votes), his supporters cheered as if he'd won a landslide. A popular former preacher, the new President had been elected on a ticket of reform: Repeal of the 18th Amendment, Universal Suffrage, and the establishment of state pensions. Unfortunately, the would-have-been-Great Reformer's ambitions were shattered when he, along with his family and Vice President Francis Bellamy were brutally killed by the infamous White House-bomb in May 1918. Though thousands of individuals were arrested and interrogated in the years to come, it was never established who was behind the gruesome plot. The suspects range from militant anarchists to agents of the German Crown.

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1. George Washington (Independent - Virginia) 1789-1797 [1]
2. Samuel Adams (Democrat-Republican- Massachussets) 1797-1801 [2]
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democrat-Republican - Virginia) 1801-1805 [3]
4. Benedict Arnold (Federalist - Connecticut) 1805-1811 [4]
5. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist - Leeward Islands) 1811-1815 [5]
6. James Madison (Federalist - Virginia) 1815-1823
7. Albert Gallatin (Liberal - Pennsylvania) 1823-1837 [6]
8. Richard Rush (Federalist - Pennsylvania) 1837-1845
9. Samuel Houston (Liberal - Texas) 1845-1853 [7]
10. Geoffrey Adams (Federalist - Massachusetts) 1853-1857 [8]
11. Henry Jenkins (Liberal - Rio) 1857-1859 [9]
12. William Gladstone (Liberal - Nova Scotia) 1859-1861 [10]
13. Benjamin Disraeli (Neo Federalist - Kentucky) 1861-1865 [11]
14. Stephen F. Davis* (Conservative Federalist - Tennessee) 1865-1869 [12]
15. James Goodalming (Conservative Federalist - Orleans) 1869-1877 [13]
16. John Tyler Morgan (Populist - Alabama) 1877-1883 [14]
17. James L. Alcorn (Populist - West Florida) 1883-1889 [15]
18. Nathaniel T. Grant (Populist - Mississippi) 1889-1897 [16]
19. Theodore "Teddy" B. Jackson (Populist - Mississippi) 1897-1917 [17]
20.
Walter Rauschenbusch (American - Virginia) 1917-1918 [18]
21. William Cameron Forbes (Populist - Georgia) 1918

[1] First Vice President was John Adams, second was Benedict Arnold after John Adams had a falling out with him and the President.
[2] With both Arnold and John Adams having fallen from grace, the Federalist Party nominated a weak ticket with James McHenry for President. The Democratic-Republican ticket nominated the popular Samuel Adams for President and Thomas Jefferson for Vice-President, swiftly and comfortably winning the elections of 1796 and 1800.
[3] Adams refused to run again.
[4] Died in March of 1811 while in office. Alexander Hamilton is his Vice-President.
[5] As the (ATL) Consitution says, an new election must be held after a President's death. Hamilton won this. Charles Cotesworth "C.C." Pinckney was his VP.
[6] Albert Gallatin formed the Liberal Party from the remnants of the old Democratic-Republican Party, that had basically fallen apart since the death of Thomas Jefferson. Albert Gallatin would go on to win the 1824, 1828 and 1832 elections. He declined to run again in 1836
[7] Popular war hero from the British-Texan war, who led the movement for annexation of Texas by the United States. Ran on the Liberal platform with Robert Patton Crockett as his VP pick.
[8] Born Geoffrey Johnson, illegitimate son of John Adams, former governor of Massachusetts. Adams took his father's name upon reaching adulthood, his illegitimacy being an open secret among his family. He campaigned on his father's good name and connection to the core federalist cause, but won partly due to weariness of Houston, as people were concerned about having one man as president for too long. As a result, he presided over a hostile congress: the senate was initially Federalist, but throughout his term the Liberals were the largest faction in the House, albeit not a majority, as the fledgling Emancipation Party had taken a non-negligible number of seats in the northern states. Although he tried to avoid publicising it, his illegitimate nature lead to lingering doubts about his character throughout his presidency, and he declined to run for a second term.
[9] The most misunderstood President ever in the history of the United States. Born in an Mexican province by American patriots. The Republic of Rio (Not Bravo del Norte or Grande.) had him as their leader. He was Governor of the State of Rio, and was elected President. He killed himself in 1859, barely two years in his Presidency. It is accepted as fact that he was an closet homosexual.
[10] Though technically the third immigrant to rise to the presidency, Gladstone's ascent to the executive office would have been hindered had not President Geoffrey Adams introduced the Thirteenth amendment, repealing the natural-born citizen clause. Vice-President to and close friend of Henry Jenkins. Resigned in grief merely two months after being inaugurated for the second time in 1861 when his seven year old son Herbert drowned in an accident.
[11] Benjamin Disraeli was the fourth immigrant President and the first Jewish-born one. He was on relatively good terms with Gladstone, despite their conflicting political ideologies. He became part of the Pro-Emancipation faction of the broken Federalist Party, Neo Federalist.
[12] Riding on large "Nativist Hysteria," President Davis repealed the 13th Amendment making it impossible for someone not born in this country to become President. He also promoted Industrialization of the South through a gradual process as a means of stopping mounting tensions, however he remained a Pro-Slavery, Pro-American person. During his Presidency "Nativist" thought or the thought that only Americans should be President etc, etc grew, and the Neo-Federalist Party of which prior President Disraeli pertained, died out without many supporters left. The Neo-Federalist did not agree with the Repealing of the 13th Amendment.
[13] President Goodalming was President during the Civil War, in which the Federal States of America, containing the states of Maine, Nova Scotia, Massachussetts, Vermonte, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and all states north of the Ohio River seceded. A long and bloody Civil War followed, in which the North, with British and French support, sucessfully seceded from the Union.
[14] President Morgan had been one of the most vocal opponents of the secession and had criticized the Goodalming Administration for what he perceived as incompetence and lack of patriotism. He had once mused that every American suspected of having Federal sympathies should be arrested, tortured and put on trial for the charge of treason. President Morgan did not re-start the war with the Federal States, but he did commence great economic reforms, including a program of large-scale industrialization of the South, which relied greatly upon slave-power. Under his administration, the 18th Amendment was added to the Constitution, making it unconstitutional for the federal government to make slavery illegal for any state that would not consent to it. Assassinated by an escaped slave after leaving the theatre, having watched a production of Richard III, December 13 1883.
[15] President Morgan's VP, he became President after Morgan's death. He would later be re-elected in 1885, and chose not to run in 1888. Worked to continue the Rapid Industrialization of the United States. Re-integrated with European's after having German help in the Industrialization, German-American relations skyrocket. Was an advocate of the North re-joining the Union, however was still attacked by the Union Party(also known as the Warhead Party) who wished to rejoin the north through all means necessary. His Presidency was seen as a large success, and saw the Industrialization of the United States rise incredibly.
[16] Despite hand-over-fist gains for the Populist Party nationwide, Grant's administration was plagued by fears over the growing popularity locally of the Emancipation Party in the more northerly states, particularly in Delaware, where, in a loose coalition/compromise agreement with the Union Party, they had succeeded in passing the Slave Registration Act, which, among other things, made registration of all owned slaves compulsory (think car registration in modern times), and gave all slaves 3/5 of a vote. Grant maintained popularity by pushing through new legislation to inconvenience freedmen, seen by many of the landed classes to be the biggest threat to the nation. The Negro Transportation Act mandated the stopping and searching at state borders of all suspected slaves. Grant chose not to run for a third term due to advanced age.
[17] President Theodore B. Jackson is known as one of America's greatest leaders. Descended from a long line of military men, President Jackson gained popularity for his role in the Civil War, where he rose ranks, and led major campaigns around the wars end. It was even common to hear people say that if there had been another man like Jackson, the union would have never lost the war. He then entered the political life after the war, becoming Governor, and then Senator of South Carolina. Eventually he was made Secretary of Defense during the Alcorn Presidency, and Secretary of State during the Grant Presidency. He also held the record at the time of being elected and completing 5 terms as President. Winning the election in 1896 was hard with the growth of the new United America Party, which was a Co-alition of the Emancipation Party and the Unity Party. However, after winning he became a favorite. During his first term, he instated the Jackson Doctrine, declaring that Europeans had no right to remain in the America's. It stated that a European Power that would try to takeover more land in the America's would be at war with the United States. Surprisingly, and to the dismay of Great Britain and France, the FRA applauded this. He was a supporter of states rights, and believed that Slavery was an issue of the state. Industrialization continued during his terms, and with the help of the German Empire, the USA became an adapt, and completely industrialized power by the end of his 2nd term. He then began concentrating on the military. He supported Cuban Independence, and that would result in the Spanish American War, from 1901-1909, where all Caribbean Islands that Spain controlled would end up in American hands, including Puerto Rico, and the Spanish portion of Hispaniola. Cuba would become a state in 1917, just a week before the inauguration of the next President. His Presidency is seen as one of the greatest Presidencies of the United States. However, the American Party, which was formed in 1903 from the coalition of the United America Party, and the American Workers Party, would take control of Congress for the first time during his last term, and had shaken the Populist party to its core.
[18] First President of the American Party. Though his election to the presidency was marginal (winning the key state of Louisiana with a margin of 286 votes), his supporters cheered as if he'd won a landslide. A popular former preacher, the new President had been elected on a ticket of reform: Repeal of the 18th Amendment, Universal Suffrage, and the establishment of state pensions. Unfortunately, the would-have-been-Great Reformer's ambitions were shattered when he, along with his family and Vice President Francis Bellamy were brutally killed by the infamous White House-bomb in May 1918. Though thousands of individuals were arrested and interrogated in the years to come, it was never established who was behind the gruesome plot. The suspects range from militant anarchists to agents of the German Crown.
[19] The Speaker of the House, got the seat of President after the assassination of Rauschenbusch but did not remain for the rest of the term later on the ground that the people had elected the American Party for the office of the Presidency. He notably called new elections, rearranging the entire electoral calendar.
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Here's my proposal for the lands gained from Mexico, and overall the states of the USA, and territories. Still working on FRA states. Also claiming next. By the way, Louisiana is called Orleans.
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Here's my proposal for the lands gained from Mexico, and overall the states of the USA, and territories. Still working on FRA states. Also claiming next. By the way, Louisiana is called Orleans.
Me next after you. There may be a reunification war in the 1920s...
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Me next after you. There may be a reunification war in the 1920s...
Actually, I think there might be peaceful re-unification. President Jackson's Jackson Doctrine was meant to be the starter of FRA-USA relations and the starter of British-FRA disagreement. And you can go next.
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Actually, I think there might be peaceful re-unification. President Jackson's Jackson Doctrine was meant to be the starter of FRA-USA relations and the starter of British-FRA disagreement. And you can go next.
Can I have America reunify in my turn?
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1. George Washington (Independent - Virginia) 1789-1797 [1]
2. Samuel Adams (Democrat-Republican- Massachussets) 1797-1801 [2]
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democrat-Republican - Virginia) 1801-1805 [3]
4. Benedict Arnold (Federalist - Connecticut) 1805-1811 [4]
5. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist - Leeward Islands) 1811-1815 [5]
6. James Madison (Federalist - Virginia) 1815-1823
7. Albert Gallatin (Liberal - Pennsylvania) 1823-1837 [6]
8. Richard Rush (Federalist - Pennsylvania) 1837-1845
9. Samuel Houston (Liberal - Texas) 1845-1853 [7]
10. Geoffrey Adams (Federalist - Massachusetts) 1853-1857 [8]
11. Henry Jenkins (Liberal - Rio) 1857-1859 [9]
12. William Gladstone (Liberal - Nova Scotia) 1859-1861 [10]
13. Benjamin Disraeli (Neo Federalist - Kentucky) 1861-1865 [11]
14. Stephen F. Davis* (Conservative Federalist - Tennessee) 1865-1869 [12]
15. James Goodalming (Conservative Federalist - Orleans) 1869-1877 [13]
16. John Tyler Morgan (Populist - Alabama) 1877-1883 [14]
17. James L. Alcorn (Populist - West Florida) 1883-1889 [15]
18. Nathaniel T. Grant (Populist - Mississippi) 1889-1897 [16]
19. Theodore "Teddy" B. Jackson (Populist - Mississippi) 1897-1917 [17]
20.
Walter Rauschenbusch (American - Virginia) 1917-1918 [18]
21. William Cameron Forbes (Populist - Georgia) 1918 [19]
22. Charles Frederick Pershing (American - Alta California) 1918-1926 [20]

[1] First Vice President was John Adams, second was Benedict Arnold after John Adams had a falling out with him and the President.
[2] With both Arnold and John Adams having fallen from grace, the Federalist Party nominated a weak ticket with James McHenry for President. The Democratic-Republican ticket nominated the popular Samuel Adams for President and Thomas Jefferson for Vice-President, swiftly and comfortably winning the elections of 1796 and 1800.
[3] Adams refused to run again.
[4] Died in March of 1811 while in office. Alexander Hamilton is his Vice-President.
[5] As the (ATL) Consitution says, an new election must be held after a President's death. Hamilton won this. Charles Cotesworth "C.C." Pinckney was his VP.
[6] Albert Gallatin formed the Liberal Party from the remnants of the old Democratic-Republican Party, that had basically fallen apart since the death of Thomas Jefferson. Albert Gallatin would go on to win the 1824, 1828 and 1832 elections. He declined to run again in 1836
[7] Popular war hero from the British-Texan war, who led the movement for annexation of Texas by the United States. Ran on the Liberal platform with Robert Patton Crockett as his VP pick.
[8] Born Geoffrey Johnson, illegitimate son of John Adams, former governor of Massachusetts. Adams took his father's name upon reaching adulthood, his illegitimacy being an open secret among his family. He campaigned on his father's good name and connection to the core federalist cause, but won partly due to weariness of Houston, as people were concerned about having one man as president for too long. As a result, he presided over a hostile congress: the senate was initially Federalist, but throughout his term the Liberals were the largest faction in the House, albeit not a majority, as the fledgling Emancipation Party had taken a non-negligible number of seats in the northern states. Although he tried to avoid publicising it, his illegitimate nature lead to lingering doubts about his character throughout his presidency, and he declined to run for a second term.
[9] The most misunderstood President ever in the history of the United States. Born in an Mexican province by American patriots. The Republic of Rio (Not Bravo del Norte or Grande.) had him as their leader. He was Governor of the State of Rio, and was elected President. He killed himself in 1859, barely two years in his Presidency. It is accepted as fact that he was an closet homosexual.
[10] Though technically the third immigrant to rise to the presidency, Gladstone's ascent to the executive office would have been hindered had not President Geoffrey Adams introduced the Thirteenth amendment, repealing the natural-born citizen clause. Vice-President to and close friend of Henry Jenkins. Resigned in grief merely two months after being inaugurated for the second time in 1861 when his seven year old son Herbert drowned in an accident.
[11] Benjamin Disraeli was the fourth immigrant President and the first Jewish-born one. He was on relatively good terms with Gladstone, despite their conflicting political ideologies. He became part of the Pro-Emancipation faction of the broken Federalist Party, Neo Federalist.
[12] Riding on large "Nativist Hysteria," President Davis repealed the 13th Amendment making it impossible for someone not born in this country to become President. He also promoted Industrialization of the South through a gradual process as a means of stopping mounting tensions, however he remained a Pro-Slavery, Pro-American person. During his Presidency "Nativist" thought or the thought that only Americans should be President etc, etc grew, and the Neo-Federalist Party of which prior President Disraeli pertained, died out without many supporters left. The Neo-Federalist did not agree with the Repealing of the 13th Amendment.
[13] President Goodalming was President during the Civil War, in which the Federal States of America, containing the states of Maine, Nova Scotia, Massachussetts, Vermonte, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and all states north of the Ohio River seceded. A long and bloody Civil War followed, in which the North, with British and French support, sucessfully seceded from the Union.
[14] President Morgan had been one of the most vocal opponents of the secession and had criticized the Goodalming Administration for what he perceived as incompetence and lack of patriotism. He had once mused that every American suspected of having Federal sympathies should be arrested, tortured and put on trial for the charge of treason. President Morgan did not re-start the war with the Federal States, but he did commence great economic reforms, including a program of large-scale industrialization of the South, which relied greatly upon slave-power. Under his administration, the 18th Amendment was added to the Constitution, making it unconstitutional for the federal government to make slavery illegal for any state that would not consent to it. Assassinated by an escaped slave after leaving the theatre, having watched a production of Richard III, December 13 1883.
[15] President Morgan's VP, he became President after Morgan's death. He would later be re-elected in 1885, and chose not to run in 1888. Worked to continue the Rapid Industrialization of the United States. Re-integrated with European's after having German help in the Industrialization, German-American relations skyrocket. Was an advocate of the North re-joining the Union, however was still attacked by the Union Party(also known as the Warhead Party) who wished to rejoin the north through all means necessary. His Presidency was seen as a large success, and saw the Industrialization of the United States rise incredibly.
[16] Despite hand-over-fist gains for the Populist Party nationwide, Grant's administration was plagued by fears over the growing popularity locally of the Emancipation Party in the more northerly states, particularly in Delaware, where, in a loose coalition/compromise agreement with the Union Party, they had succeeded in passing the Slave Registration Act, which, among other things, made registration of all owned slaves compulsory (think car registration in modern times), and gave all slaves 3/5 of a vote. Grant maintained popularity by pushing through new legislation to inconvenience freedmen, seen by many of the landed classes to be the biggest threat to the nation. The Negro Transportation Act mandated the stopping and searching at state borders of all suspected slaves. Grant chose not to run for a third term due to advanced age.
[17] President Theodore B. Jackson is known as one of America's greatest leaders. Descended from a long line of military men, President Jackson gained popularity for his role in the Civil War, where he rose ranks, and led major campaigns around the wars end. It was even common to hear people say that if there had been another man like Jackson, the union would have never lost the war. He then entered the political life after the war, becoming Governor, and then Senator of South Carolina. Eventually he was made Secretary of Defense during the Alcorn Presidency, and Secretary of State during the Grant Presidency. He also held the record at the time of being elected and completing 5 terms as President. Winning the election in 1896 was hard with the growth of the new United America Party, which was a Co-alition of the Emancipation Party and the Unity Party. However, after winning he became a favorite. During his first term, he instated the Jackson Doctrine, declaring that Europeans had no right to remain in the America's. It stated that a European Power that would try to takeover more land in the America's would be at war with the United States. Surprisingly, and to the dismay of Great Britain and France, the FRA applauded this. He was a supporter of states rights, and believed that Slavery was an issue of the state. Industrialization continued during his terms, and with the help of the German Empire, the USA became an adapt, and completely industrialized power by the end of his 2nd term. He then began concentrating on the military. He supported Cuban Independence, and that would result in the Spanish American War, from 1901-1909, where all Caribbean Islands that Spain controlled would end up in American hands, including Puerto Rico, and the Spanish portion of Hispaniola. Cuba would become a state in 1917, just a week before the inauguration of the next President. His Presidency is seen as one of the greatest Presidencies of the United States. However, the American Party, which was formed in 1903 from the coalition of the United America Party, and the American Workers Party, would take control of Congress for the first time during his last term, and had shaken the Populist party to its core.
[18] First President of the American Party. Though his election to the presidency was marginal (winning the key state of Louisiana with a margin of 286 votes), his supporters cheered as if he'd won a landslide. A popular former preacher, the new President had been elected on a ticket of reform: Repeal of the 18th Amendment, Universal Suffrage, and the establishment of state pensions. Unfortunately, the would-have-been-Great Reformer's ambitions were shattered when he, along with his family and Vice President Francis Bellamy were brutally killed by the infamous White House-bomb in May 1918. Though thousands of individuals were arrested and interrogated in the years to come, it was never established who was behind the gruesome plot. The suspects range from militant anarchists to agents of the German Crown.
[19] The Speaker of the House, got the seat of President after the assassination of Rauschenbusch but did not remain for the rest of the term later on the ground that the people had elected the American Party for the office of the Presidency. He notably called new elections, rearranging the entire electoral calendar.
[20] Charles Pershing, 22nd President of the United States of America, was a Westerner, not a Southerner. This greatly helped in his greatest act, the Reunification Act, which re-united the FSA with the USA. In Philadelphia and Richmond, the former capitals of the two Americas, there are Pershing Memorials. The great Canyon of Many Faces (ATL Mount Rushmore) was started in his Presidency.
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Well that's different. Northern and Southern re-unification. Doesn't just happen that very much.
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President's of the Federal Republic of America(1869-1920):
1. Felton D. Morgan (Republican - New York) Civil War: 1869-1878; Post War: 1878-1887[1]

[1] President during the civil war, was officially elected after independence was secure. As per the Federal Republic of America's constitution, a Presidential term was 5 years long, but there was a limit of two terms per President.

President's of the United States of America:
1. George Washington (Independent - Virginia) 1789-1797 [1]
2. Samuel Adams (Democrat-Republican- Massachussets) 1797-1801 [2]
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democrat-Republican - Virginia) 1801-1805 [3]
4. Benedict Arnold (Federalist - Connecticut) 1805-1811 [4]
5. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist - Leeward Islands) 1811-1815 [5]
6. James Madison (Federalist - Virginia) 1815-1823
7. Albert Gallatin (Liberal - Pennsylvania) 1823-1837 [6]
8. Richard Rush (Federalist - Pennsylvania) 1837-1845
9. Samuel Houston (Liberal - Texas) 1845-1853 [7]
10. Geoffrey Adams (Federalist - Massachusetts) 1853-1857 [8]
11. Henry Jenkins (Liberal - Rio) 1857-1859 [9]
12. William Gladstone (Liberal - Nova Scotia) 1859-1861 [10]
13. Benjamin Disraeli (Neo Federalist - Kentucky) 1861-1865 [11]
14. Stephen F. Davis* (Conservative Federalist - Tennessee) 1865-1869 [12]
15. James Goodalming (Conservative Federalist - Orleans) 1869-1877 [13]
16. John Tyler Morgan (Populist - Alabama) 1877-1883 [14]
17. James L. Alcorn (Populist - West Florida) 1883-1889 [15]
18. Nathaniel T. Grant (Populist - Mississippi) 1889-1897 [16]
19. Theodore "Teddy" B. Jackson (Populist - Mississippi) 1897-1917 [17]
20.
Walter Rauschenbusch (American - Virginia) 1917-1918 [18]
21. William Cameron Forbes (Populist - Georgia) 1918 [19]
22.
Charles Frederick Pershing (American - Alta California) 1918-1926 [20]
23. Franklin D. Jackson (Populist - Washington D.C.) 1926-1927[21]

[1] First Vice President was John Adams, second was Benedict Arnold after John Adams had a falling out with him and the President.
[2] With both Arnold and John Adams having fallen from grace, the Federalist Party nominated a weak ticket with James McHenry for President. The Democratic-Republican ticket nominated the popular Samuel Adams for President and Thomas Jefferson for Vice-President, swiftly and comfortably winning the elections of 1796 and 1800.
[3] Adams refused to run again.
[4] Died in March of 1811 while in office. Alexander Hamilton is his Vice-President.
[5] As the (ATL) Consitution says, an new election must be held after a President's death. Hamilton won this. Charles Cotesworth "C.C." Pinckney was his VP.
[6] Albert Gallatin formed the Liberal Party from the remnants of the old Democratic-Republican Party, that had basically fallen apart since the death of Thomas Jefferson. Albert Gallatin would go on to win the 1824, 1828 and 1832 elections. He declined to run again in 1836
[7] Popular war hero from the British-Texan war, who led the movement for annexation of Texas by the United States. Ran on the Liberal platform with Robert Patton Crockett as his VP pick.
[8] Born Geoffrey Johnson, illegitimate son of John Adams, former governor of Massachusetts. Adams took his father's name upon reaching adulthood, his illegitimacy being an open secret among his family. He campaigned on his father's good name and connection to the core federalist cause, but won partly due to weariness of Houston, as people were concerned about having one man as president for too long. As a result, he presided over a hostile congress: the senate was initially Federalist, but throughout his term the Liberals were the largest faction in the House, albeit not a majority, as the fledgling Emancipation Party had taken a non-negligible number of seats in the northern states. Although he tried to avoid publicising it, his illegitimate nature lead to lingering doubts about his character throughout his presidency, and he declined to run for a second term.
[9] The most misunderstood President ever in the history of the United States. Born in an Mexican province by American patriots. The Republic of Rio (Not Bravo del Norte or Grande.) had him as their leader. He was Governor of the State of Rio, and was elected President. He killed himself in 1859, barely two years in his Presidency. It is accepted as fact that he was an closet homosexual.
[10] Though technically the third immigrant to rise to the presidency, Gladstone's ascent to the executive office would have been hindered had not President Geoffrey Adams introduced the Thirteenth amendment, repealing the natural-born citizen clause. Vice-President to and close friend of Henry Jenkins. Resigned in grief merely two months after being inaugurated for the second time in 1861 when his seven year old son Herbert drowned in an accident.
[11] Benjamin Disraeli was the fourth immigrant President and the first Jewish-born one. He was on relatively good terms with Gladstone, despite their conflicting political ideologies. He became part of the Pro-Emancipation faction of the broken Federalist Party, Neo Federalist.
[12] Riding on large "Nativist Hysteria," President Davis repealed the 13th Amendment making it impossible for someone not born in this country to become President. He also promoted Industrialization of the South through a gradual process as a means of stopping mounting tensions, however he remained a Pro-Slavery, Pro-American person. During his Presidency "Nativist" thought or the thought that only Americans should be President etc, etc grew, and the Neo-Federalist Party of which prior President Disraeli pertained, died out without many supporters left. The Neo-Federalist did not agree with the Repealing of the 13th Amendment.
[13] President Goodalming was President during the Civil War, in which the Federal States of America, containing the states of Maine, Nova Scotia, Massachussetts, Vermonte, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and all states north of the Ohio River seceded. A long and bloody Civil War followed, in which the North, with British and French support, sucessfully seceded from the Union.
[14] President Morgan had been one of the most vocal opponents of the secession and had criticized the Goodalming Administration for what he perceived as incompetence and lack of patriotism. He had once mused that every American suspected of having Federal sympathies should be arrested, tortured and put on trial for the charge of treason. President Morgan did not re-start the war with the Federal States, but he did commence great economic reforms, including a program of large-scale industrialization of the South, which relied greatly upon slave-power. Under his administration, the 18th Amendment was added to the Constitution, making it unconstitutional for the federal government to make slavery illegal for any state that would not consent to it. Assassinated by an escaped slave after leaving the theatre, having watched a production of Richard III, December 13 1883.
[15] President Morgan's VP, he became President after Morgan's death. He would later be re-elected in 1885, and chose not to run in 1888. Worked to continue the Rapid Industrialization of the United States. Re-integrated with European's after having German help in the Industrialization, German-American relations skyrocket. Was an advocate of the North re-joining the Union, however was still attacked by the Union Party(also known as the Warhead Party) who wished to rejoin the north through all means necessary. His Presidency was seen as a large success, and saw the Industrialization of the United States rise incredibly.
[16] Despite hand-over-fist gains for the Populist Party nationwide, Grant's administration was plagued by fears over the growing popularity locally of the Emancipation Party in the more northerly states, particularly in Delaware, where, in a loose coalition/compromise agreement with the Union Party, they had succeeded in passing the Slave Registration Act, which, among other things, made registration of all owned slaves compulsory (think car registration in modern times), and gave all slaves 3/5 of a vote. Grant maintained popularity by pushing through new legislation to inconvenience freedmen, seen by many of the landed classes to be the biggest threat to the nation. The Negro Transportation Act mandated the stopping and searching at state borders of all suspected slaves. Grant chose not to run for a third term due to advanced age.
[17] President Theodore B. Jackson is known as one of America's greatest leaders. Descended from a long line of military men, President Jackson gained popularity for his role in the Civil War, where he rose ranks, and led major campaigns around the wars end. It was even common to hear people say that if there had been another man like Jackson, the union would have never lost the war. He then entered the political life after the war, becoming Governor, and then Senator of South Carolina. Eventually he was made Secretary of Defense during the Alcorn Presidency, and Secretary of State during the Grant Presidency. He also held the record at the time of being elected and completing 5 terms as President. Winning the election in 1896 was hard with the growth of the new United America Party, which was a Co-alition of the Emancipation Party and the Unity Party. However, after winning he became a favorite. During his first term, he instated the Jackson Doctrine, declaring that Europeans had no right to remain in the America's. It stated that a European Power that would try to takeover more land in the America's would be at war with the United States. Surprisingly, and to the dismay of Great Britain and France, the FRA applauded this. He was a supporter of states rights, and believed that Slavery was an issue of the state. Industrialization continued during his terms, and with the help of the German Empire, the USA became an adapt, and completely industrialized power by the end of his 2nd term. He then began concentrating on the military. He supported Cuban Independence, and that would result in the Spanish American War, from 1901-1909, where all Caribbean Islands that Spain controlled would end up in American hands, including Puerto Rico, and the Spanish portion of Hispaniola. Cuba would become a state in 1917, just a week before the inauguration of the next President. His Presidency is seen as one of the greatest Presidencies of the United States. However, the American Party, which was formed in 1903 from the coalition of the United America Party, and the American Workers Party, would take control of Congress for the first time during his last term, and had shaken the Populist party to its core.
[18] First President of the American Party. Though his election to the presidency was marginal (winning the key state of Louisiana with a margin of 286 votes), his supporters cheered as if he'd won a landslide. A popular former preacher, the new President had been elected on a ticket of reform: Repeal of the 18th Amendment, Universal Suffrage, and the establishment of state pensions. Unfortunately, the would-have-been-Great Reformer's ambitions were shattered when he, along with his family and Vice President Francis Bellamy were brutally killed by the infamous White House-bomb in May 1918. Though thousands of individuals were arrested and interrogated in the years to come, it was never established who was behind the gruesome plot. The suspects range from militant anarchists to agents of the German Crown.
[19] The Speaker of the House, got the seat of President after the assassination of Rauschenbusch but did not remain for the rest of the term later on the ground that the people had elected the American Party for the office of the Presidency. He notably called new elections, rearranging the entire electoral calendar.
[20] Charles Pershing, 22nd President of the United States of America, was a Westerner, not a Southerner. This greatly helped in his greatest act, the Reunification Act, which re-united the FSA with the USA. In Philadelphia and Richmond, the former capitals of the two Americas, there are Pershing Memorials. The great Canyon of Many Faces (ATL Mount Rushmore) was started in his Presidency.
[21] Son of former President Jackson, Franklin Dexter Jackson would serve 1 year and 3 months, before being killed in a British bombing of a city in Maine, where the President was speaking about the goodness of the Reunification. The bombing killed the President, Vice-President, and the first family. The British had attacked in fear of an American attack due to America's alliance with Germany, who Britain was now at war with. The bombing prompted the Secretary of State to ascend to the Presidency, as well as the declaration of War upon Britain. On that same day, Boston, New York City, and the capitol where bombed.
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President's of the Federal Republic of America(1869-1920):
1. Felton D. Morgan (Republican - New York) Civil War: 1869-1878; Post War: 1878-1887 [1]
2. Mark Twain (Radical Liberal - New York) 1887-1892 [2]

[1] President during the civil war, was officially elected after independence was secure. As per the Federal Republic of America's constitution, a Presidential term was 5 years long, but there was a limit of two terms per President.
[2] Chose not to seek re-election. Member of the Radical Liberal Party that had formed from the majority of Liberals supporting secession.

President's of the United States of America:
1. George Washington (Independent - Virginia) 1789-1797 [1]
2. Samuel Adams (Democrat-Republican- Massachussets) 1797-1801 [2]
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democrat-Republican - Virginia) 1801-1805 [3]
4. Benedict Arnold (Federalist - Connecticut) 1805-1811 [4]
5. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist - Leeward Islands) 1811-1815 [5]
6. James Madison (Federalist - Virginia) 1815-1823
7. Albert Gallatin (Liberal - Pennsylvania) 1823-1837 [6]
8. Richard Rush (Federalist - Pennsylvania) 1837-1845
9. Samuel Houston (Liberal - Texas) 1845-1853 [7]
10. Geoffrey Adams (Federalist - Massachusetts) 1853-1857 [8]
11. Henry Jenkins (Liberal - Rio) 1857-1859 [9]
12. William Gladstone (Liberal - Nova Scotia) 1859-1861 [10]
13. Benjamin Disraeli (Neo Federalist - Kentucky) 1861-1865 [11]
14. Stephen F. Davis* (Conservative Federalist - Tennessee) 1865-1869 [12]
15. James Goodalming (Conservative Federalist - Orleans) 1869-1877 [13]
16. John Tyler Morgan (Populist - Alabama) 1877-1883 [14]
17. James L. Alcorn (Populist - West Florida) 1883-1889 [15]
18. Nathaniel T. Grant (Populist - Mississippi) 1889-1897 [16]
19. Theodore "Teddy" B. Jackson (Populist - Mississippi) 1897-1917 [17]
20.
Walter Rauschenbusch (American - Virginia) 1917-1918 [18]
21. William Cameron Forbes (Populist - Georgia) 1918 [19]
22.
Charles Frederick Pershing (American - Alta California) 1918-1926 [20]
23. Franklin D. Jackson (Populist - Washington D.C.) 1926-1927 [21]
24. Gertrude Stein (American Liberal/National Coalition - Navaho) 1927-1937 [22]

[1] First Vice President was John Adams, second was Benedict Arnold after John Adams had a falling out with him and the President.
[2] With both Arnold and John Adams having fallen from grace, the Federalist Party nominated a weak ticket with James McHenry for President. The Democratic-Republican ticket nominated the popular Samuel Adams for President and Thomas Jefferson for Vice-President, swiftly and comfortably winning the elections of 1796 and 1800.
[3] Adams refused to run again.
[4] Died in March of 1811 while in office. Alexander Hamilton is his Vice-President.
[5] As the (ATL) Consitution says, an new election must be held after a President's death. Hamilton won this. Charles Cotesworth "C.C." Pinckney was his VP.
[6] Albert Gallatin formed the Liberal Party from the remnants of the old Democratic-Republican Party, that had basically fallen apart since the death of Thomas Jefferson. Albert Gallatin would go on to win the 1824, 1828 and 1832 elections. He declined to run again in 1836
[7] Popular war hero from the British-Texan war, who led the movement for annexation of Texas by the United States. Ran on the Liberal platform with Robert Patton Crockett as his VP pick.
[8] Born Geoffrey Johnson, illegitimate son of John Adams, former governor of Massachusetts. Adams took his father's name upon reaching adulthood, his illegitimacy being an open secret among his family. He campaigned on his father's good name and connection to the core federalist cause, but won partly due to weariness of Houston, as people were concerned about having one man as president for too long. As a result, he presided over a hostile congress: the senate was initially Federalist, but throughout his term the Liberals were the largest faction in the House, albeit not a majority, as the fledgling Emancipation Party had taken a non-negligible number of seats in the northern states. Although he tried to avoid publicising it, his illegitimate nature lead to lingering doubts about his character throughout his presidency, and he declined to run for a second term.
[9] The most misunderstood President ever in the history of the United States. Born in an Mexican province by American patriots. The Republic of Rio (Not Bravo del Norte or Grande.) had him as their leader. He was Governor of the State of Rio, and was elected President. He killed himself in 1859, barely two years in his Presidency. It is accepted as fact that he was an closet homosexual.
[10] Though technically the third immigrant to rise to the presidency, Gladstone's ascent to the executive office would have been hindered had not President Geoffrey Adams introduced the Thirteenth amendment, repealing the natural-born citizen clause. Vice-President to and close friend of Henry Jenkins. Resigned in grief merely two months after being inaugurated for the second time in 1861 when his seven year old son Herbert drowned in an accident.
[11] Benjamin Disraeli was the fourth immigrant President and the first Jewish-born one. He was on relatively good terms with Gladstone, despite their conflicting political ideologies. He became part of the Pro-Emancipation faction of the broken Federalist Party, Neo Federalist.
[12] Riding on large "Nativist Hysteria," President Davis repealed the 13th Amendment making it impossible for someone not born in this country to become President. He also promoted Industrialization of the South through a gradual process as a means of stopping mounting tensions, however he remained a Pro-Slavery, Pro-American person. During his Presidency "Nativist" thought or the thought that only Americans should be President etc, etc grew, and the Neo-Federalist Party of which prior President Disraeli pertained, died out without many supporters left. The Neo-Federalist did not agree with the Repealing of the 13th Amendment.
[13] President Goodalming was President during the Civil War, in which the Federal States of America, containing the states of Maine, Nova Scotia, Massachussetts, Vermonte, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and all states north of the Ohio River seceded. A long and bloody Civil War followed, in which the North, with British and French support, sucessfully seceded from the Union.
[14] President Morgan had been one of the most vocal opponents of the secession and had criticized the Goodalming Administration for what he perceived as incompetence and lack of patriotism. He had once mused that every American suspected of having Federal sympathies should be arrested, tortured and put on trial for the charge of treason. President Morgan did not re-start the war with the Federal States, but he did commence great economic reforms, including a program of large-scale industrialization of the South, which relied greatly upon slave-power. Under his administration, the 18th Amendment was added to the Constitution, making it unconstitutional for the federal government to make slavery illegal for any state that would not consent to it. Assassinated by an escaped slave after leaving the theatre, having watched a production of Richard III, December 13 1883.
[15] President Morgan's VP, he became President after Morgan's death. He would later be re-elected in 1885, and chose not to run in 1888. Worked to continue the Rapid Industrialization of the United States. Re-integrated with European's after having German help in the Industrialization, German-American relations skyrocket. Was an advocate of the North re-joining the Union, however was still attacked by the Union Party(also known as the Warhead Party) who wished to rejoin the north through all means necessary. His Presidency was seen as a large success, and saw the Industrialization of the United States rise incredibly.
[16] Despite hand-over-fist gains for the Populist Party nationwide, Grant's administration was plagued by fears over the growing popularity locally of the Emancipation Party in the more northerly states, particularly in Delaware, where, in a loose coalition/compromise agreement with the Union Party, they had succeeded in passing the Slave Registration Act, which, among other things, made registration of all owned slaves compulsory (think car registration in modern times), and gave all slaves 3/5 of a vote. Grant maintained popularity by pushing through new legislation to inconvenience freedmen, seen by many of the landed classes to be the biggest threat to the nation. The Negro Transportation Act mandated the stopping and searching at state borders of all suspected slaves. Grant chose not to run for a third term due to advanced age.
[17] President Theodore B. Jackson is known as one of America's greatest leaders. Descended from a long line of military men, President Jackson gained popularity for his role in the Civil War, where he rose ranks, and led major campaigns around the wars end. It was even common to hear people say that if there had been another man like Jackson, the union would have never lost the war. He then entered the political life after the war, becoming Governor, and then Senator of South Carolina. Eventually he was made Secretary of Defense during the Alcorn Presidency, and Secretary of State during the Grant Presidency. He also held the record at the time of being elected and completing 5 terms as President. Winning the election in 1896 was hard with the growth of the new United America Party, which was a Co-alition of the Emancipation Party and the Unity Party. However, after winning he became a favorite. During his first term, he instated the Jackson Doctrine, declaring that Europeans had no right to remain in the America's. It stated that a European Power that would try to takeover more land in the America's would be at war with the United States. Surprisingly, and to the dismay of Great Britain and France, the FRA applauded this. He was a supporter of states rights, and believed that Slavery was an issue of the state. Industrialization continued during his terms, and with the help of the German Empire, the USA became an adapt, and completely industrialized power by the end of his 2nd term. He then began concentrating on the military. He supported Cuban Independence, and that would result in the Spanish American War, from 1901-1909, where all Caribbean Islands that Spain controlled would end up in American hands, including Puerto Rico, and the Spanish portion of Hispaniola. Cuba would become a state in 1917, just a week before the inauguration of the next President. His Presidency is seen as one of the greatest Presidencies of the United States. However, the American Party, which was formed in 1903 from the coalition of the United America Party, and the American Workers Party, would take control of Congress for the first time during his last term, and had shaken the Populist party to its core.
[18] First President of the American Party. Though his election to the presidency was marginal (winning the key state of Louisiana with a margin of 286 votes), his supporters cheered as if he'd won a landslide. A popular former preacher, the new President had been elected on a ticket of reform: Repeal of the 18th Amendment, Universal Suffrage, and the establishment of state pensions. Unfortunately, the would-have-been-Great Reformer's ambitions were shattered when he, along with his family and Vice President Francis Bellamy were brutally killed by the infamous White House-bomb in May 1918. Though thousands of individuals were arrested and interrogated in the years to come, it was never established who was behind the gruesome plot. The suspects range from militant anarchists to agents of the German Crown.
[19] The Speaker of the House, got the seat of President after the assassination of Rauschenbusch but did not remain for the rest of the term later on the ground that the people had elected the American Party for the office of the Presidency. He notably called new elections, rearranging the entire electoral calendar.
[20] Charles Pershing, 22nd President of the United States of America, was a Westerner, not a Southerner. This greatly helped in his greatest act, the Reunification Act, which re-united the FSA with the USA. In Philadelphia and Richmond, the former capitals of the two Americas, there are Pershing Memorials. The great Canyon of Many Faces (ATL Mount Rushmore) was started in his Presidency.
[21] Son of former President Jackson, Franklin Dexter Jackson would serve 1 year and 3 months, before being killed in a British bombing of a city in Maine, where the President was speaking about the goodness of the Reunification. The bombing killed the President, Vice-President, and the first family. The British had attacked in fear of an American attack due to America's alliance with Germany, who Britain was now at war with. The bombing prompted the Secretary of State to ascend to the Presidency, as well as the declaration of War upon Britain. On that same day, Boston, New York City, and the capitol where bombed.
[22] First woman president; originally a member of the American Liberal Party that had formed from the merger of the US American Party and the FRA Radical Liberal Party she was appointed as Secretary of State by President Jackson in an attempt to create unity in the still fragile nation. After the British attack however, she revoke her membership in the American Liberal Party, famously declaring that the nation couldn't handle partisan infighting at such a crucial moment in its history, forming the National Coalition Party, whose only agenda appears to have been to defeat the British at any cost. In 1929 she overturned the 18th Amendment and issued the Abolition Act, finally ending slavery in the United States. After the Scandinavian Confederacy, the French and the Russian Empires allied with the United States, Britain was finally defeated in 1935, and the British Premier, Social-Nationalist Oswald Mosley was captured and put on trial. The Canadian Provinces soon declared independence and applied en masse to join the United States. In 1936, Stein was the most popular politician in living memory. Strangely enough, Stein declared her intention not to run in the election that year, saying that she had served her role for history and retired to the French Riviera where she lived out her days. Like Henry Jenkins, scholars now generally agrees that she was in fact homosexual. (Oh, in this timeline, Stein isn't so politically naive that she drops favorable comments on Adolf Hitler...)

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Old September 8th, 2011, 12:00 AM
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Well Hitler doesn't exist or isn't important. Germany is still the German Empire, and this war started as a British-German war, with possible French-British alliance.

I am just going by the fact that Britain and France where close when the FRA broke apart. Maybe the war started betweens the Germans and French, and the British came in, and once the US reunified, they got scared and attacked.

Besides that, I really like what you did! However, add an FRA president.
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