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Old August 26th, 2011, 02:26 PM
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AHC President not a democrat or republican

WI a POD AFTER 1/1/1900 have a Presidnet elected who is not a Democrat or a Republican by November 2012
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Old August 26th, 2011, 04:48 PM
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Teddy Roosevelt the Bull Moose Progressive.

Done.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 04:50 PM
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Republicans keep the name Union Party. As a result, we have a Democrat or Unionist President.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 05:28 PM
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FDR is shot and killed by Zangara on Feb 15th, 1933. President John Nance Garner does not even make an attempt to create a "new deal", and the situation continues to worsen.


Meanwhile, Louisana Senator Huey Long makes the decision to tighten his security detail, thereby surviving the attempt on his life. On the Platform of "Share our Wealth", Long announces his intention to be the next President of the United States.


A Three Way Political Race emerges: Not much distinguishes Alf Landon, the Republican Nominee, from John Nance Garner. And thus, in 1936, Huey Long becomes President of the United States through the rise of a third party.


As tends to happen in American Politics, things quickly turn into a two party system. By 1940, having pulled the United States out of its economic depression by building a vast Freeway network and removed the power of mob power by ending abolition, the Share our Wealth Party has gained mainstream support. The Democrat and Republican Parties merge, but not before the left wings of both parties have joined the SoW Party.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 05:31 PM
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As tends to happen in American Politics, things quickly turn into a two party system. By 1940, having pulled the United States out of its economic depression by building a vast Freeway network and removed the power of mob power by ending abolition, the Share our Wealth Party has gained mainstream support. The Democrat and Republican Parties merge, but not before the left wings of both parties have joined the SoW Party.
I believe you mean Prohibition here...

Otherwise, good scenario.

Perhaps the Populists manage to gain wider support and elect a President?
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Old August 27th, 2011, 02:41 AM
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A perfect storm puts Ross Perot in the White House in 1992.

Or....

Peter Ueberroth wins the California Recall in 2003 as an independent, and uses that as a platform to run for President in 2008 following his 2006 reelection.
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Old August 27th, 2011, 06:54 PM
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POD: No U.S. involvement in WWI - either war doesn't occur or it ends quickly.

Without the Red Scare and the division of the Socialist Party over the war and the Russian Revolution, the party continues its pre-1912 growth. The IWW and other revolutionary and socialist currents continue to retain major influence among the labor movement.

In 1916, Charles Evans Hughes defeats Woodrow Wilson and thereafter Republicans continue to hold the White House for several terms. The Democratic Party remains deeply split between a dominant conservative wing and a set of agrarian populists. For about a decade, American politics is deeply fractured, with Republicans dominant and the opposition split between Democrats (primarily in the South), Socialists, and other small splinter parties (Progressives, Farmer-Labor, various independents).

Without the Great War, the precise contours of the Great Depression probably do not occur. But at some point an unregulated Wall Street is likely to blow up and cause another sharp panic. Republicans lose the White House to a resurgent, right-wing Democratic candidate who wins a plurality of the popular vote and an electoral college majority, with an independent candidate backed by a coalition of Socialists, Progressives, progressive Republicans, and populist Democrats outpolling the Republican candidate for second place. The Depression worsens under austerity policies pushed by the Democratic Right.

After one term, this Democrat is unseated not by a Republican but by Norman Thomas, former Socialist leader. The factions that had previously backed the independent fusion candidate in the previous election have now merged into a new "Labor Party," which comes to dominate the Northeast and Midwest - America's industrial heartland, with strong support from some farm states and California as well.

Under a winner-take-all system, the Republican Party fades, unable to retain support except as a residual party in parts of New England and the Upper Midwest. In Congress, the Republicans become a small third-party, typically in coalition with Democrats, and they come to support a common presidential ticket in subsequent elections, known popularly as "the Alliance."

So American politics instead of being Democrats vs. Republicans, becomes Labor vs. Democrats or Labor vs. Alliance.
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Old August 27th, 2011, 07:09 PM
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I believe you mean Prohibition here...

Otherwise, good scenario.

Perhaps the Populists manage to gain wider support and elect a President?
Not likely, their so called populism didn't resonate northern factory workers, who would have been essential.
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