Make liechtenstein take over as much teratory as possable. it has to be realistic, no ASB. Good luke
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Total Hapsburg collapse at the same time as internal French upheaval, with Louis XIV dying suddenly? The Wallonons ask the leader (Duke?) of Liechtenstein to be their overlord to ensure stability. With control over Wallonia, Liechtenstein, through 17th century skulduggery and power politics (allying with the victorious faction of the French civil war perhaps), ends up with internationally recognized control of the whole of the "Spanish Netherlands".
Alex Richards
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The Liechtenstein lands in Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia are granted as independent principalities and, being small and scattered, are ignored by successive monarchs (often acting as overloards and protectors), until without communism in Czechoslovakia, Liechtenstein retains the lands and has a scattered principality, de jure independent but most of which is de facto part of Czech Republic/Slovakia.
Liechtenstein is something like 15 times its OTL size, though still miniscule, thus counting as a wank.
Liechtenstein is something like 15 times its OTL size, though still miniscule, thus counting as a wank.
But Czechoslovakia might not even exist TTL if that happens.
An issue I see here is that a scion of the house of Liechtenstein was a commander for the Austrian side.
I read on wikapeadea that liechtenstein was much bigger once.
"The liechtenstein dineasty, from which the principality takes its name, comes from Castle Liechtenstein in Lower Austria, which the family possessed from at least 1140 until the 13th century, and from 1807 onward. Through the centuries, the dynasty acquired vast tracts of land, predominantly in Moravia, Lower Austria, Silesia, and Styria, though these territories were all held in fief under other more senior feudal lords, particularly under various lines of the Habsburg family, whom several Liechtenstein princes served as close advisers."
just let them keep all that land.
"The liechtenstein dineasty, from which the principality takes its name, comes from Castle Liechtenstein in Lower Austria, which the family possessed from at least 1140 until the 13th century, and from 1807 onward. Through the centuries, the dynasty acquired vast tracts of land, predominantly in Moravia, Lower Austria, Silesia, and Styria, though these territories were all held in fief under other more senior feudal lords, particularly under various lines of the Habsburg family, whom several Liechtenstein princes served as close advisers."
just let them keep all that land.
(Resuming ) The house of Liechtenstein bought the lordship of Schellenberg in the late 17th century and the county of Vaduz in the early 18th century from the house of Hohenems, these territories were Reichsunmittelbar (no other feudal lord than the emperor) and these were later united into the principality of Liechtenstein (after the dynasty) by emperor Charles VI. Another reason for this ambition was, that would allow them to attend and have a seat in the Reichstag.
Maybe the house of Liechtenstein is able to purchase more lands, but I doubt that the emperor attach lands to this new principality, which were held in fiefs from others (including the emperor himself).
) The house of Liechtenstein bought the lordship of Schellenberg in the late 17th century and the county of Vaduz in the early 18th century from the house of Hohenems, these territories were Reichsunmittelbar (no other feudal lord than the emperor) and these were later united into the principality of Liechtenstein (after the dynasty) by emperor Charles VI. Another reason for this ambition was, that would allow them to attend and have a seat in the Reichstag.Maybe the house of Liechtenstein is able to purchase more lands, but I doubt that the emperor attach lands to this new principality, which were held in fiefs from others (including the emperor himself).
The Princes of Liechtenstein purchase Tettnang from the Montfort family in 1780 (rather than it going to the Habsburgs like IOTL). Then we have an upper (OTL terr) and lower (Tettnang) Liechtenstein. After Tyrol is annexed to Bavaria during the Napoleonic Wars Liechtenstein gains the Vorarlberg and the Free City of Lindau to connect their two domains. Its possible Austria would rather see the Vorarlberg go to an ally like Liechtenstein than to Bavaria (like OTL). Probably it becomes a Grand Duchy.
Liechtenstein keeps the gains at the Congress of Vienna. Not that hard considering OTL Austria lost the rest of the Further Austria including significant territories like the Breisgau. So Liechtenstein is like a plus sized Vorarlberg including parts of OTL neighboring states, namely Tettnang and Lindau. Given its alliance with Austria it most likely stays outside of Germany becoming an independent state and like OTL Liechtenstein survives the collapse of the German and Austrian monarchies and cozies up to Switzerland.
Liechtenstein keeps the gains at the Congress of Vienna. Not that hard considering OTL Austria lost the rest of the Further Austria including significant territories like the Breisgau. So Liechtenstein is like a plus sized Vorarlberg including parts of OTL neighboring states, namely Tettnang and Lindau. Given its alliance with Austria it most likely stays outside of Germany becoming an independent state and like OTL Liechtenstein survives the collapse of the German and Austrian monarchies and cozies up to Switzerland.