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Old June 16th, 2012, 05:29 PM
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A world where the Conservatives merged with the Liberals in 1950 to take on Attlee
If the party was founded after the formation of the Liberal International, which one of its antecedents established, why would it be instead part of the much later, realistically butterflied away International Democrat Union?

Otherwise, awesome idea. Was there ever a chance of it happening though?
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Old June 16th, 2012, 05:59 PM
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I seriously doubt that a "real" Jem & The Holograms could have successful world tours in 2008 while staying the same all along. Music marches on, especially for girl groups and the like. Probably they would go on a hiatus around 2003, and return years later with a much more mature sound, kinda like the Backstreet Boys did, but with a fraction of their old popularity.
That's why it's called "Alternate History". In the TL this is taken from, Jem and the Holograms have the popularity of the Spice Girls at their height with the enduring popularity of Michael Jackson, Lada Gaga and Justin Bieber combined
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Old June 16th, 2012, 06:23 PM
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That one is certainly interesting on a number of levels. What's the POD?
Pretty much McCain doesn't run for the Republicans, Hillary doesn't run for the Democrats, and Edwards doesn't have an affair (At least like the one IOTL). The primaries are pretty much a three-way between Huckabee, Romney, and Giuliani, Huckabee was considered an early option for a VP, but Giuliani wanted someone less radically socially conservative. As for Edwards vs. Obama in the Democratic Primaries, Edwards runs on the more moderately liberal platform, and barely pulls a victory from Obama.

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Old June 16th, 2012, 07:06 PM
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Pretty much McCain doesn't run for the Republicans, Hillary doesn't run for the Democrats, and Edwards doesn't have an affair (At least like the one IOTL). The primaries are pretty much a three-way between Huckabee, Romney, and Giuliani, Huckabee was considered an early option for a VP, but Giuliani wanted someone less radically socially conservative. As for Edwards vs. Obama in the Democratic Primaries, Edwards runs on the more moderately liberal platform, and barely pulls a victory from Obama.

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Thanks. I will have to read that
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Old June 16th, 2012, 07:49 PM
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That's why it's called "Alternate History". In the TL this is taken from, Jem and the Holograms have the popularity of the Spice Girls at their height with the enduring popularity of Michael Jackson, Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber combined
Don't mention Bieber next to the King, please... something tells me that he will not last for long. Gaga, will probably last. She'll not always be the crazy, outrageous, line-crossing pop star she is now, but she has enough musical talent to keep singing even in her 70s.
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Old June 16th, 2012, 08:05 PM
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Don't mention Bieber next to the King, please... something tells me that he will not last for long. Gaga, will probably last. She'll not always be the crazy, outrageous, line-crossing pop star she is now, but she has enough musical talent to keep singing even in her 70s.
Speaking of Gaga, I almost used a picture of her for thr infobox pic as Jem
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Old June 16th, 2012, 08:31 PM
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If the party was founded after the formation of the Liberal International, which one of its antecedents established, why would it be instead part of the much later, realistically butterflied away International Democrat Union?

Otherwise, awesome idea. Was there ever a chance of it happening though?
Concerning the IDU, I probably envisaged it as a different organisation founded earlier

I remember reading something in Andrew Marr's History of Modern Britain that Churchill and Macmillan were going to attempt some kind of pact or merger with the promise of electoral reform. It was only touched on fleetingly I think Churchill might've tasked Macmillan with talks about it but I may have imagined that bit
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Old June 16th, 2012, 08:52 PM
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One of Britain's most popular series, actually flops as it did initially
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Old June 16th, 2012, 10:51 PM
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i doubt Canadian law allows foreign born people to run for government. and, sorry abotu being no fun, i just like plausible wiki boxes.
Err, what do you mean "Foreign born people to run for government"? Pretty much every country allows naturalized immigrants to run for most positions and the US is one of only a few that bars them from the top elected position. For that matter, four Canadian PMs and one Leader of the Opposition who never became PM were born outside Canada; two in Scotland including the first Canadian PM, John MacDonald, two in England, and one in Iowa.

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One of Britain's most popular series, actually flops as it did initially
"Not hard to see why it's England's longest running series, and today, we're showing all seven episodes."

Err, actually, I misread that...
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Old June 17th, 2012, 01:32 AM
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Concerning the IDU, I probably envisaged it as a different organisation founded earlier

I remember reading something in Andrew Marr's History of Modern Britain that Churchill and Macmillan were going to attempt some kind of pact or merger with the promise of electoral reform. It was only touched on fleetingly I think Churchill might've tasked Macmillan with talks about it but I may have imagined that bit
One wonders whether such a party could have endured given what has since happened.
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Old June 17th, 2012, 10:17 AM
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"Not hard to see why it's England's longest running series, and today, we're showing all seven episodes."

Err, actually, I misread that...
As long as its not on PBS and you don;t have a PBS tote bag or an umbrella featuring the PBS tote Bag
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Old June 17th, 2012, 11:13 PM
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One wonders whether such a party could have endured given what has since happened.
I'd imagine by 1968 the party would be on the verge of splitting into Powellite and Heathite factions over proposals to enter the EU as with the Liberal influence the party would probably be seemingly paradoxically more left-wing as well as more right-wing as the Liberals would probably have pulled them more economically liberal (i.e. more to the right) whilst more socially liberal (more to the left). The shift would probably benefit Powell more as he was from what I've seen more of a classical liberal as well as voting for homosexual decriminalisation I believe.

Add to the fact that the 1970 election's Heath surge was partly down to Powell expressing his support for Heath, perhaps Heath would have narrowly remained leader but lost the 1970 election due to infighting. Wilson wins in '70 and enters the EEC sometime in his term presumably at better negotiations than Heath, Heath gets forcibly removed with Powell taking over a la Thatcher. Wilson rides out a full term until 1975 when he steps down for someone to take over, maybe Roy Jenkins. Jenkins goes into the '75 election and loses against Powell's Democrats (albeit very narrowly). Powell holds a referendum on EEC membership and people vote to stay in - Heath becomes the President of the European Commission in 1977 and comes back forming a pressure group for a pro-EU sect - Heath forms the European Unionist Alliance, which morphs into a party called the Unionists with him winning a number of successful by-elections and splitting the Democrat vote in the 1980 election.

Powell is dumped by his party, meanwhile, the Labour Party under Denis Healey surges into a large majority.

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Old June 18th, 2012, 09:13 PM
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Is there an infobox flagicon for Washington DC?
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The American people, embittered and disillusioned with the Republicans, which led them in the Depression, and the Democrats who made it so much worse, voted for other parties...

And the winner is... The National American Party, a racist, xenophobic, anti-African American Party.

The 1936 election was the last the United States had.
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The American people, embittered and disillusioned with the Republicans, which led them in the Depression, and the Democrats who made it so much worse, voted for other parties...

And the winner is... The National American Party, a racist, xenophobic, anti-African American Party.

The 1936 election was the last the United States had.
Is this from a timeline of yours?
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Old June 19th, 2012, 04:34 PM
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Is this from a timeline of yours?
Believe me, I could easily do a TL on this.

However, I made it for a future game. This is supposed to evoke, in some way the German federal election of 1932.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 08:21 PM
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Here's the sixteenth in Series II of my AltHist Infoboxes:
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what the heck is wrong with the USSR? it got...weak. and the USA jsut cant get a break...
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what the heck is wrong with the USSR? it got...weak. and the USA jsut cant get a break...
The USSR is weak as it lost the war against Japan and in this TL, the USA is this TL's equivalant of the USSR, or at least it will be....
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Here are the only 5 infoboxes I did for an aborted Infobox series called "Shattered Glass", enjoy:









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