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Old June 20th, 2011, 01:22 AM
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1968: Reginald Maudling (Con)
1972: Ted Heath (Con)
1977: Denis Healey (Lab)
1981: Willie Whitelaw (Con)
1986: Margaret Thatcher (Con)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Lab)
1989: Geoffrey Howe (Con) [1]
1993: Malcolm Rifkind (Con) [2]
1994: Malcolm Rifkind (Con) [3]

1999: Ed Balls (Lab) [4]
2003: Ed Balls (Lab)
2007: Andy Burnham (Lab) [5]
2010: Andy Burnham (Lab) [6]

2015: Andy Burnham (Lab)
2020: Andy Burnham (Lab) [7]
[1] The minority government of Kinnock is defeated. Howe forms the first majority government since 1981.
[2] An assassination attempt in 1992 injures Howe and both of the favourites to succeed him: Heseltine and Major, both of whom decline to run in the subsequent leadership election; Rifkind beats Clarke, Howard and Portillo.
[3] The '94 election ends with a hung parliament with the Conservatives as the biggest party, despite the poor state of the economy. The Tory "victory" is mostly attributed to the sympathy vote after the assassination attempt on Howe.
[4] During Rifkind's term, the economy continued to struggle, and Rifkind stoically held onto power despite pressure by his party and the media. In 1999, Labour slaughtered the Tories at the polls.
[5] Balls announces his intention to step down in '06, and in '07 Andy Burnham wins the Labour leadership election. He calls for an election a month after his entry into Nr. 10, and Labour are returned to government with a comfortable majority.
[6] Despite the economy being badly damaged by the credit crunch, Burnham's government remained popular because of its strong position against the banks, and his attempts to broker peace on the Middle East.
[7] With the economy booming and the divisions within the Conservatives, Burnham won a landslide, announcing he would resign in 2023, at which point he would have been the longest serving Prime Minister in modern times.
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Old June 20th, 2011, 11:16 AM
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1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

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1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour majority)
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1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour majority)
1998: Michael Portillo (Conservative) [1]

[1] Still sporting a bowl-cut and rambling about the SAS, this Portillo is the pre-1997 son of Thatcher who never underwent his OTL awakening. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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Brighton Bombing Successful
1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour majority)
1998: Michael Portillo (Conservative)
[1]
2000: Michael Howard (Conservative) [2]


[1] Still sporting a bowl-cut and rambling about the SAS, this Portillo is the pre-1997 son of Thatcher who never underwent his OTL awakening. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[2] When Portillo's sexuality was revealed in a tabloid scandal, the Conservative Party's social liberal and Flag Faith and Family wings turned on each other and Portillo was forced out by the men in grey suits to stop the party tearing itself apart. Howard, a former Home Secretary, rose uncontested to the leadership as a relatively neutral 'safe pair of hands'.
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1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour majority)
1998: Michael Portillo (Conservative)
[1]
2000: Michael Howard (Conservative) [2]
2003: Harriet Harman (Labour)


[1] Still sporting a bowl-cut and rambling about the SAS, this Portillo is the pre-1997 son of Thatcher who never underwent his OTL awakening. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[2] When Portillo's sexuality was revealed in a tabloid scandal, the Conservative Party's social liberal and Flag Faith and Family wings turned on each other and Portillo was forced out by the men in grey suits to stop the party tearing itself apart. Howard, a former Home Secretary, rose uncontested to the leadership as a relatively neutral 'safe pair of hands'.[/QUOTE]
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Brighton Bombing Successful
1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour majority)
1998: Michael Portillo (Conservative)
[1]
2000: Michael Howard (Conservative) [2]
2003: Harriet Harman (Labour)
2007: Harriet Harman (Labour)

[1] Still sporting a bowl-cut and rambling about the SAS, this Portillo is the pre-1997 son of Thatcher who never underwent his OTL awakening. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[2] When Portillo's sexuality was revealed in a tabloid scandal, the Conservative Party's social liberal and Flag Faith and Family wings turned on each other and Portillo was forced out by the men in grey suits to stop the party tearing itself apart. Howard, a former Home Secretary, rose uncontested to the leadership as a relatively neutral 'safe pair of hands'.
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Old June 20th, 2011, 05:16 PM
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[QUOTE=Meadow;4679272]Brighton Bombing Successful
1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour majority)
1998: Michael Portillo (Conservative)
[1]
2000: Michael Howard (Conservative) [2]
2003: Harriet Harman (Labour)
2007: Harriet Harman (Labour)

2011: Annabel Goldie (Conservative-Democrat Coalition [3]

[1] Still sporting a bowl-cut and rambling about the SAS, this Portillo is the pre-1997 son of Thatcher who never underwent his OTL awakening. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[2] When Portillo's sexuality was revealed in a tabloid scandal, the Conservative Party's social liberal and Flag Faith and Family wings turned on each other and Portillo was forced out by the men in grey suits to stop the party tearing itself apart. Howard, a former Home Secretary, rose uncontested to the leadership as a relatively neutral 'safe pair of hands'.
[3] Harman called an early election with the polls riding high for Labour, but the party's lead was eaten away by a series of scandals and a mismanaged campaign. The result was a hung parliament in which the Conservatives formed a government with the Democrats (the name the Alliance had taken since the full merger of the Liberals and SDP in 1995).
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Brighton Bombing Successful
1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour majority)
1998: Michael Portillo (Conservative)
[1]
2000: Michael Howard (Conservative) [2]
2003: Harriet Harman (Labour)
2007: Harriet Harman (Labour)

2011: Annabel Goldie (Conservative-Democrat Coalition [3]
2016: John Healey (Labour) [4]

[1] Still sporting a bowl-cut and rambling about the SAS, this Portillo is the pre-1997 son of Thatcher who never underwent his OTL awakening. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[2] When Portillo's sexuality was revealed in a tabloid scandal, the Conservative Party's social liberal and Flag Faith and Family wings turned on each other and Portillo was forced out by the men in grey suits to stop the party tearing itself apart. Howard, a former Home Secretary, rose uncontested to the leadership as a relatively neutral 'safe pair of hands'.
[3] Harman called an early election with the polls riding high for Labour, but the party's lead was eaten away by a series of scandals and a mismanaged campaign. The result was a hung parliament in which the Conservatives formed a government with the Democrats (the name the Alliance had taken since the full merger of the Liberals and SDP in 1995).
[4] The Coalition was deeply unpopular, with Tory heartlanders unimpressed by the social liberalism that Goldie was forced to pursue - rolling back many of Portillo's more controversial social legislations was unpopular. The Democrats, too, were punished by their voters by a massive dive in support for what many called 'Simon's thirty pieces of silver.' John Healey thus became Prime Minister with a comfortable 79 seat majority.
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[QUOTE=Meadow;4679319]Brighton Bombing Successful
1984: Michael Heseltine (Conservative)
1988: Neil Kinnock (Labour-Alliance Coalition)

1993: Neil Kinnock (Labour majority)
1998: Michael Portillo (Conservative)
[1]
2000: Michael Howard (Conservative) [2]
2003: Harriet Harman (Labour)
2007: Harriet Harman (Labour)

2011: Annabel Goldie (Conservative-Democrat Coalition [3]
2016: John Healey (Labour) [4]
2021: John Healey (Labour-Regional Association Coalition [5]

[1] Still sporting a bowl-cut and rambling about the SAS, this Portillo is the pre-1997 son of Thatcher who never underwent his OTL awakening. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[2] When Portillo's sexuality was revealed in a tabloid scandal, the Conservative Party's social liberal and Flag Faith and Family wings turned on each other and Portillo was forced out by the men in grey suits to stop the party tearing itself apart. Howard, a former Home Secretary, rose uncontested to the leadership as a relatively neutral 'safe pair of hands'.
[3] Harman called an early election with the polls riding high for Labour, but the party's lead was eaten away by a series of scandals and a mismanaged campaign. The result was a hung parliament in which the Conservatives formed a government with the Democrats (the name the Alliance had taken since the full merger of the Liberals and SDP in 1995).
[4] The Coalition was deeply unpopular, with Tory heartlanders unimpressed by the social liberalism that Goldie was forced to pursue - rolling back many of Portillo's more controversial social legislations was unpopular. The Democrats, too, were punished by their voters by a massive dive in support for what many called 'Simon's thirty pieces of silver.' John Healey thus became Prime Minister with a comfortable 79 seat majority.
[5] Though Healey was personally popular, his government was blamed for an economic downturn which happened to coincide with their period in office. With the Conservatives and Democrats still reeling from the '16 defeat and bereft of new ideas, Labour finished 11 seats short of a majority and was forced to form a coalition with the Regional Association--the electoral pact that the Scottish Nationalists, Plaid Cymru and the minor English Regionalist Party had formed in the mid-90s due to new electoral rules. Labour therefore made a commitment to introduce elected regional assemblies with significant powers for the regions, something which had not been seriously debated since 1978.

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1906: Edward Grey (Liberal)
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1911: Austen Chamberlain (Liberal Unionist-Conservative Coalition), Conservative from 1913 (party merger)
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1906: Edward Grey (Liberal)
1911: Austen Chamberlain (Liberal Unionist-Conservative Coalition), Conservative from 1913 (party merger)
Thanks. Although Austen was Tory leader (although looking it up now, not necessarily Leader of the Opposition) briefly in the 1920s I believe - he, along with Hague, is the only Tory leader of the 20th century not to become PM. But I'll let you off as you've put a lot of thought into it and he wasn't Leader of the Opposition at the time above (1911), and the Tory leadership was very amorphous pre-1922, with separate Lords and Commons 'leaders'.

1906: Edward Grey (Liberal)
1911: Austen Chamberlain (Liberal Unionist-Conservative Coalition), Conservative from 1913 (party merger)
1918: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative)
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[1] Elections suspended during Great War of 1915-1918.
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1922: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative)
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1918: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative)
1922: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative)
1926: Philip Snowden (Labour)
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1906: Edward Grey (Liberal)
1911: Austen Chamberlain (Liberal Unionist-Conservative Coalition), Conservative from 1913 (party merger)
1918: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative) [1]
1922: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative)
1926: Philip Snowden (Labour)
1930: Philip Snowden (Labour)
1933: James Maxton (Labour)
1938: Duff Cooper (Conservative minority)
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[1] Election suspended during Great War of 1915-1918.
[2] Government operated with Liberal support, controversially keeping Labour (who had polled the most votes) out of power.
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1911: Austen Chamberlain (Liberal Unionist-Conservative Coalition), Conservative from 1913 (party merger)
1918: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative) [1]
1922: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative)
1926: Philip Snowden (Labour)
1930: Philip Snowden (Labour)
1933: James Maxton (Labour)
1938: Duff Cooper (Conservative minority) [2]

1940: Duff Cooper (Conservative)
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