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Old June 10th, 2011, 04:55 PM
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The Best-Case Scenario for the Crusaders...?

Just wondering, what would be the best outcome for the Crusades against the Muslims, using the PODs no earlier than 1096...?
The survival of strong Crusader states into present day? The establishment of Christianity as a major religion in Middle East? The complete collapse of Islamic civilization and its subjugation to the Christendoms?
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Old June 10th, 2011, 05:22 PM
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Probably the Christian taking, and holding of the holy land along with several other places they attacked, and the downfall of the large Islamic empires.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 05:46 PM
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Ruling over Egypt and the Levant would be the best possible scenario for the Crusaders.
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Old June 11th, 2011, 11:44 AM
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Just wondering, what would be the best outcome for the Crusades against the Muslims, using the PODs no earlier than 1096...?
The survival of strong Crusader states into present day? The establishment of Christianity as a major religion in Middle East? The complete collapse of Islamic civilization and its subjugation to the Christendoms?
Eliminating Islam and replacing it with Christianity, would be the ultimate triumph for the Crusaders....but not so plausible, unless the Mongols interfere.
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Old June 11th, 2011, 01:42 PM
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Eliminating Islam and replacing it with Christianity, would be the ultimate triumph for the Crusaders....but not so plausible, unless the Mongols interfere.
The Mongols would fight anyone, but they always respected religeon and would not fight to destoy Islam, just conquor it's people.

I think the Crusades would just stick to the Holy Land, taking and holding modern day Isreal and Lebanon. Except the Crusaders of the Fourth, who would have stayed in Constantinople!
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Old June 11th, 2011, 02:26 PM
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The Mongols would fight anyone, but they always respected religeon and would not fight to destoy Islam, just conquor it's people.
But might these change if, in their homeland, they are converted to nestorian Christianity or to a new-born monotheistic religion similar to Islam???
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Old June 11th, 2011, 02:31 PM
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I wonder if these states will be affected by the reformation.
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Old June 11th, 2011, 06:25 PM
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But might these change if, in their homeland, they are converted to nestorian Christianity or to a new-born monotheistic religion similar to Islam???
Making the mongols Christian, would be fun!.....but I doubt that piety comes natural to them .
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Old June 11th, 2011, 07:20 PM
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They gradually assimilate with the local populations over time. After several hundred years most of the Levant is ruled by a mostly arabic christian aristocricy, possesses a large christian minority, and a contented plurality of Sunni's, Shia, Druze, and Jews
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