Favourite Alternate America.

[Landshark]

Pretty much what it says above:

The DNA is America were the revolution was avoided or won by Britain.

The USSA is, of course, a Godless Commie America.

The NAU is something like the European Union, i.e. several independent nations (not all of whom speak the same language) loosely banded together.

The EUA is the mirror image of OTL America. A country that fought a Revolution against France (supported by a Britain that eventually became a republic itself), and that still has a special relationship with the Kingdom of France.

The RoV is the country originally founded by Norse explorers.

[Straha]

crud I clicked on the EUA by accident(dealing with popups) the USSA and DNA seem like possible utopias. The types of governemnts created by communit revolutions are shaped by the previous governemnt. American communism would be like swedish socialism with high amounts of social liberalism combined with marxist rhetoric and quotes.

[DominusNovus]

Republic of Vinland seems interesting.

[Straha]

I'm going to someday make a USSA TL...

[Nosb]

Originally Posted by SurfNTurfStraha

I'm going to someday make a USSA TL...

If you do post it. I've been trying to come up with a realistic one and haven't had very muck luck.

[David Howery]

I don't like any of those choices... I want the United States of the Whole Freakin' World

[Straha]

my version of the USSA would restult from the USA being far more elitist after the american revolutionary so a young lawyer whose read marx's work, an Abraham Lincoln leads a communist(actually democratic socialist but its called communist) revolution

[Fearless Leader]

Personally the EUA sounds quite intriguing. But one question lurks, How in the world did the French win the 7 years war?

[Archangel Michael]

I vote for the United States of the Universe!

[Straha]

its the exact mirror opposite

[Landshark]

NOSB:

Once when the USSA came up on the old board it was about the same time as someone mentioning the Madison Constitution, which would appearently allocate the number of seats in Congress bsaed on the wealth of the individual states and I suggested that that would be a place to start for a socialist America:

If wealth is the determining factor in an individual state's representation and therefore power in Washington then the state government is going to be very keen to keep the source of that wealth, the workers, producing said wealth. Strikes could easily be totally illegal and any attempts to organise labour unions would crushed before they could start. It could also be that the state governments wouldn't want their workers moving from their home state to another state, (and therefore decreasing the home state's overall wealth), restrictive laws or manipulation of the houseing market could tie people to the place where they were born/work. In short virtual labour serfdom.

David:

Try the Expansionist Party of the United States

[Landshark]

The EUA is indeed the mirror universe version of the USA, where everyone is evil and has a beard, even the women (but that's just the Europeans for you).

Actually I came up with the idea while reading the Mosaic Earth thread over at the old board. If you remember OTL Great Britain was the Britain of Mosaic Earth and as I came in too late to submit a country I decided to write a short story based on an ME where OTL America was transported to Mosaic Earth. Or at least most of OTL America. George Bush would have woken up to find that not only was the United States cut off from the rest of the world as he knew it but also that the US was sharing it's territory with an independent Republic of Texas threatening to get the British Empire to nuke Washington if US troops violated it's borders, a USSA up around Chicago, a city of anthromorphic cat people where Philidelphia used to be (though Tom might have that one copyrighted ) and worse of all a French USA.

The world of the EUA was intended to be an almost total mirror of OTL, though in someways geography prevents that. The EUA covers the same area as the USA and is bordered to the north by the French speaking (except for Quebec) country of Canada. On the other side of the Atlantic are the Kingdom of France and the republic known as the British Commonwealth.

[Nosb]

Originally Posted by Landshark

NOSB:

Once when the USSA came up on the old board it was about the same time as someone mentioning the Madison Constitution, which would appearently allocate the number of seats in Congress bsaed on the wealth of the individual states and I suggested that that would be a place to start for a socialist America:

If wealth is the determining factor in an individual state's representation and therefore power in Washington then the state government is going to be very keen to keep the source of that wealth, the workers, producing said wealth. Strikes could easily be totally illegal and any attempts to organise labour unions would crushed before they could start. It could also be that the state governments wouldn't want their workers moving from their home state to another state, (and therefore decreasing the home state's overall wealth), restrictive laws or manipulation of the houseing market could tie people to the place where they were born/work. In short virtual labour serfdom.

David:

Try the Expansionist Party of the United States

Thanks. Actually I'm currently writing a ATL called America Divided and I might use that.

[tom]

I want the Dominion British to win by the closest margin reasonable with their still holding America now. Make them shiver at how likely a USA was...then if I ever meet one, he's more likey to believe where I come from!

[Knight Of Armenia]

Ahh, Vinland. The land that never was... I personally think a Norse America, started early enough, would allow the Natives to still exist. A crash course in civilization up to the Middle Ages isn't as difficult to achieve as a crash course into the Industrial Age. If the Skraelings had adopted iron-working and horses from the Norsemen, and had spread these, they would have been able to do much in the next millenia; when the Norse eventually became Christian, the Skraelings could easily have followed suit. Imagine a Vinland Republic with a very good portion of its population being Natives.

[Faeelin]

The option that doesn't exist: Hansa america. German colonists in the high middle ages mix it up with flemish settlers, italian traders, muslim refugees in south america, the spanish, and stumble their way towards the free air of the continent.

[Tyr]

Well the Dominion would be the best place, Vinland would be interesting though it is unlikely.

[Landshark]

In an attempt to bump this topic a bit more imaginatively than just writing bump:

As stated above the North American Union is an OTL version of the European Union: a doazen or more indepenent nations ranging from republics to monarchies and speaking English, Spanish, French or some other language rather than a single large English spaeking republic on the US model.

So the question is who would be the member states?

[Straha]

*hopes that Cherokee,creek,iroqois,german,russian,chinese and mayan are some of the languages in the NAU*

[Landshark]

Okay then, based on past threads I'd New England, Texas, a Spanish speaking California and a Mormon republic/theocracy somewhere out west.