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Old May 27th, 2011, 10:50 PM
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Challenge: Surviving Yugoslavia

Your challenge is to have Yugoslavia survive as a federation to the present day with a POD no earlier then the death of Josef Tito. It doesn't have to remain an officially socialist state, but a heavy socialist influence must remain.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 10:56 PM
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I think you need a powerful dictatorship to survive. That would be very difficult in late 20th century and 21st century Europe.
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Old May 28th, 2011, 05:22 AM
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I think you need a powerful dictatorship to survive. That would be very difficult in late 20th century and 21st century Europe.
People always say that, but the different ethnic groups seemed to work together well enough until Tito kicked the bucket. I guess a democracy is tough when you have all these different groups competing for their own interests. Yet extremely diverse nations like South Africa manage it, so could Yugoslavia?
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Old May 28th, 2011, 05:32 AM
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People always say that, but the different ethnic groups seemed to work together well enough until Tito kicked the bucket. I guess a democracy is tough when you have all these different groups competing for their own interests. Yet extremely diverse nations like South Africa manage it, so could Yugoslavia?
The problem was that Yugoslavia seemed biased toward some groups, SPECIALY Serbs perhaps, one way or other; note the Kings of Yugoslavia had been.. serbians.
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Old May 28th, 2011, 05:34 AM
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Discredit ethnic nationalism.
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Old May 28th, 2011, 05:36 AM
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Discredit ethnic nationalism.
WW2 did this A LOT, but at the end, it meaned nothing to the whole of Balkans...
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Old May 28th, 2011, 09:52 AM
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Your challenge is to have Yugoslavia survive as a federation to the present day with a POD no earlier then the death of Josef Tito. It doesn't have to remain an officially socialist state, but a heavy socialist influence must remain.
Well, if Milošević kicked the bucket in begining of 80s, Yugoslavia would actually had a some chances for survival...
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Old May 28th, 2011, 09:59 AM
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Discredit ethnic nationalism.
What you need to discredit is religious nationalism. The idea that you can't be a 'real <insert ethnicity here>' unless you were Orthodox/Muslim/Catholic (replace as necessary).

In fact, not just discredit it, but squash it flat.
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Old May 30th, 2011, 01:38 AM
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#1 The nSk project begins in 1970 and succeeds. nSk-State citizens prevent [post-New Wave / BoP] and [post-New Wave / BoP] which directly lead to [post-New Wave / BoP] and the substantive dissolution of what Yugoslavia had meant prior to 1989. Knowing nSk, a significant element of socialised means and tools of production continues to exist, probably in a heightened state.

#2 W.R. - Misterije organizma / W.R. - Мистерије организма (1971) by Dušan Makavejev is not banned in Yugoslavia and succeeds in terms of its political message. Yugoslavia's nomenklatura and proletariat take on board Makavejev's warnings regarding Leninism—even pure Leninism—and the necessary consequences of a division between the party and the class. They also take on board Makavejev's sexual politics. Yugoslavians are too busy living economically liberated and sexually liberated lives to be ensnared in what Wilhelm Reich describes as fascism. The Industrial Democracy movement in Industrial Relations is radically transformed by what is known in the West as "The Yugoslavian Revolution." In 1985 Makavejev directs The Coca-Cola Kid which has a similar effect on Australian with ethnic/national backgrounds from Yugoslavia, and Australians generally. From 1986 Neighbours is unable to be screened on television in the United Kingdom. This obviously leads to a revival of the Australian Film Industry.

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